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Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey [ Suppiluliuma ]
Eurekalert ^ | Monday, July 30, 2012 | Kim Luke, U of Toronto

Posted on 07/30/2012 8:19:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv


The head and torso of the human figure, intact to just above its waist, stands approximately 1.5 meters in height, suggesting a total body length of 3.5 to four meters. The figure's face is bearded, with beautifully preserved inlaid eyes made of white and black stone, and its hair has been coiffed in an elaborate series of curls aligned in linear rows. Both arms are extended forward from the elbow, each with two arm bracelets decorated with lion heads. The figure's right hand holds a spear, and in its left is a shaft of wheat. A crescent-shaped pectoral adorns its chest. A lengthy Hieroglyphic Luwian inscription, carved in raised relief across its back, records the campaigns and accomplishments of Suppiluliuma, likely the same Patinean king who faced a Neo-Assyrian onslaught of Shalmaneser III as part of a Syrian-Hittite coalition in 858 BC.
Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey Archeologists unearth extraordinary human sculpture in Turkey


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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: anatolia; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; luwian; luwians; sapalulme; suppiluliuma; trojanwar
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To: SunkenCiv

For me I imagen many of the similarities are do to the materials and the limitation of the tools they are working with. Sculpture takes a lot of finesse to get it close to what your trying to depict. Plus trying to do a monolithic sculpture is going to show a lot of errors so it is going to take a lot more work and a lot longer.

Or if it is ancient aliens then they just beam it down and charge the locals in gold per copy.


41 posted on 07/31/2012 9:47:13 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

Has Gudea ever been to Google ?


42 posted on 08/01/2012 12:01:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Is that a wife beater t-shirt, or is he wearing suspenders?


43 posted on 08/01/2012 12:03:49 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: bert

I see he’s wearing an Easter Hat.


44 posted on 08/01/2012 12:07:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: Captain Beyond

Why did they build those statues on Easter Island ?


45 posted on 08/01/2012 12:14:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Layer after layer of civilization building upon the remains of civilization. There is plenty to find, but I would bet there was even more than we can begin to imagine, and much more than we can find.

What amazes me most about these ancient statues is the ability of the artist to carve these giant images out of solid rock.

I think the limit to human ability is an imaginary wall we build as we grow. I think modern man builds the wall extremely high, compared to our ancient cousins.


46 posted on 08/01/2012 12:34:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: UCANSEE2

To be honest no one really knows. Most theories say they were for some type of religious worship and that they embodied the spirit after death. It must have been one heavy duty popular religion because they are around 900 of these statues on the island finished and unfinished. Some weighing in at 80 tons and 35 feet high. The average is like 15 feet tall and weighing in at 14 tons.

So either these statues were really hot sellers on their version of a Religious Polynesian QVC channel, or it was a bunch of manic, acid dropping, artists that were perfectionists and in their minds could not get it right so they had to keep starting over, or they could have suffered from OCD or short term memory lost and was forced to keep making the same statue over and over each day, or some type of massive Kool-Aide cult that was into really big stone heads, or maybe the place was run by a Stone Quarry Union thugs and forced it’s workers to keep turning out tons of these statues to keep getting government kick-back money.

Amother theory is that Easter Island, since it is basically sitting on three extinct volcanoes, is that is part of much larger land mass that sunk due to some catastrophism and this was the stone quarry that was used for a much larger population. Then there is the theory that an ice age glacier wipes it out leaving only Easter Island as the highest peak.

Then there are those from that Ancient Astronaut theory that say the statues represent a geodetic marker for an astronomical observatory from some lost civilization and it is as a marker for visitors from other planets.

So there you go. It is mainly a big mystery as to why they were built but it is a very impressive mystery as to how they made them and moved them around the island. Hope this is helpfully in some way. There are lots of good books on it on Amazon. I have like 6 on it because it has always facanated me.


47 posted on 08/01/2012 1:42:42 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: UCANSEE2
Or it could have been one those whacked out business ideas where some guys sees Egypt and goes “Wow if we could make a bunch really big statues and ship around the world we could make a millions easy.” Then he finds out that he on the tail end of the Statue bubble market and is bankrupt all of sudden and what is left is an island full of statues with no place to go. Or it was a really bad idea for shipping drugs to another country or planet. Thinking “Like wow man no one is going to search a monolithic statue for our cocaine stash.”
48 posted on 08/01/2012 1:59:30 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting the Ages of Chaos letters. Never read them before very interesting. So thanks for the extra info.


49 posted on 08/01/2012 2:07:16 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

My modest Velikovsky collection (hardbacks — some with the original dust jackets)

Worlds in Collision
Ages in Chaos
Earth In Upheaval
Peoples of the Sea


50 posted on 08/01/2012 8:09:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

I have never heard of Velikovsky before this. Been reading about him since, fascinating.

So then, do you think his ideas were correct?


51 posted on 08/01/2012 10:30:24 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9; SunkenCiv
His particular suggestions (eg Venus was expelled from Jupiter leaving the Red “Eye”)? Mostly no.

The general proposition that human “prehistory” is a) shaped by cataclysms and b) largely unknown and/or misinterpreted? Yes.

52 posted on 08/01/2012 3:05:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

Velikovsky regarded his “Ages in Chaos” series as his opus magnum (and I wholeheartedly agree), and while I have no trouble with “Worlds In Collision”, Dr V would have been much more successful had he referred to the latter only vaguely; “Ages In Chaos” (and the underlying “Theses for the Reconstructon of Ancient History”) might have been the reigning paradigm by now, despite the hatred of Jews found throughout academe’.

Ultimately, “Worlds In Collision” isn’t as important a work, even if it were 100 percent accurate. The calumnys directed at WiC and at its authors are not accurate, to be charitable. The rise of secular catastrophism comes directly from its pages, and in the sciences, closet readers of it avoided (and still avoid) discussion of its contents, while continuing to lay the groundwork which will lead to much broader acceptance.


53 posted on 08/01/2012 5:54:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Beowulf9

Dr V’s reconstruction of the timeline of the ancient Middle East is basically entirely correct; because he’s been dead for 30 years, some minor tinkering here and there may be in order, but the discoveries he didn’t live to see which bear him out (and I mean, entirely), such as the RC dating of Ramses II “the Great”’s four canopic jars, are completely inexplicable and not predicted by the conventional pseudochronology. Naturally, the denialists had to cook up the egregiously ad hoc “explanation” that the jars were reused by someone having access to such jars.

As V noted, the dating of most of the pseudochronological “echoes” are about 600 years apart, but in the case of Ramses II, it’s nearly 800.

The RC date of the human remains from the jars are 760 years later than the pseudochronological expectation. Clearly it would be desirable to attempt a genetic test of the remains and of the (known) mummy of Ramses II.

And a RC dating of the mummy as well.

And while we’re dreamin’, a cosmic ray exposure dating of those giant statues of Ramses which were moved when the Aswan High Dam was flooding the Nile valley.

http://www.varchive.org/


54 posted on 08/01/2012 6:15:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: UCANSEE2

Vice versa.


55 posted on 08/01/2012 6:26:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Rocky

He left a lot of them to be collected. :’)


56 posted on 08/01/2012 6:26:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Captain Beyond

My pleasure, see also the link one or two above this, in the reply to Beowulf.


57 posted on 08/01/2012 6:29:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin; Captain Beyond; Beowulf9

“Oedipus and Akhenaten” and “Ramses II and his Time”, and your collection will be pretty much complete. :’) The other two that accompany WiC are “Earth in Upheaval” and “Mankind in Amnesia”. The otherwise (mostly) unpublished volumes of the AiC series are found here:

Dark Age of Greece
http://www.varchive.org/dag/index.htm

The Assyrian Conquest
http://www.varchive.org/tac/index.htm

and the original outline/timeline is here:

Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History
http://www.varchive.org/ce/theses.htm

additional basically standalone history essays can be found at the bottom of this page:

Collected Essays
http://www.varchive.org/ce/index.htm


58 posted on 08/01/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Captain Beyond

OK.

Two theories. One to match each of your responses.

First. They built the statues to ‘protect’ themselves from seafaring travelers. They thought that passing ships would see these GIANTS everywhere, and decide it best not to come any nearer. The Islanders didn’t want the disease, slave taking, or pests that come from seafarers.

Second. Aliens used to visit, and they wanted to scare away the aliens. Size being the relevant issue in scaring the aliens as well. If true we would know that the aliens are at least somewhat smaller than the Easter Island Statues.


59 posted on 08/02/2012 1:13:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah... well, I’m dysversic. I always get everything backwards.


60 posted on 08/02/2012 1:29:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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