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Advice Requested: AR-15 To Purchase
Self ^ | 7/31/12 | Self

Posted on 07/31/2012 6:14:16 PM PDT by usconservative

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To: The SISU kid

I’ve spent literally hundrds of dollars at Model 1 Sales. Great Texas firm to do business with.


51 posted on 07/31/2012 7:26:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: The SISU kid

I’ve spent literally hundreds of dollars at Model 1 Sales. Great Texas firm to do business with.


52 posted on 07/31/2012 7:27:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: yarddog; usconservative

fyi: I have seen Colt Ar-15s in Walmart for 1100 bucks. 16 inch barrels, tele-stocks, flat top reciever.


53 posted on 07/31/2012 7:27:38 PM PDT by Redcitizen (bumper sticker- my Great Dane is smarter than your honor student.)
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To: usconservative

I don’t care what you buy, but beware of Bushmaster. They’re fine arms but they tried to stiff people that ordered, and even paid for their weapons, just before and during the debates on the ‘94 gun ban. Many people waited months before their orders were filled and it wasn’t because they couldn’t meet production - they were playing politics and waiting to see which way the wind blew. As proof, when the ban passed, they asked some paid customer for more money to complete their order. That’s just plain greed and dishonesty. It wouldn’t matter to me if they made their arms out of solid gold - they just ain’t solid Americans if they are willing to stiff people over politics - especially the 2A which is their bread and butter.


54 posted on 07/31/2012 7:40:44 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: CollegeRepublican
The Remington is fine. I just picked up a Sig 716. The other response you got re it being too heavy is ridiculous. When firing the Nato round, heavier is better. Unless of course the shooter is a little girl, then it's too heavy.

Fact is that DPMS, Sig, Remington, etc, are all good in the 7.62 caliber. The problem with Armalite is that they use proprietary mags. You can't just use any 308 mag.

55 posted on 07/31/2012 7:45:11 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: usconservative

I can help.

Please send me $1200 and I will make the purchase and deliver to you via my canoe over Lake Michigan.


56 posted on 07/31/2012 7:49:12 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: usconservative
You couldn't go wrong with the Doublestar Star 15 CAR 16" HBAR 5.56 for $659. It has a gas piston rather than direct impingement system, which I personally consider to be a plus. The gas piston system will just keep shooting and shooting and shooting...

Bud's Gun Shop

57 posted on 07/31/2012 7:54:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: usconservative

I do not want to piss off any bushmaster owners BUT they are not what they once were. Not terrible, but no longer in the top tier or even the top couple tiers. I would avoid it for your first and possibly only battle/patrol rifle.

TIER 1

Noveske, Wilson, Les Baer, Larue Tactical (and maybe L.W.R.C) are all Top Tier no brainers if you can afford them.

* I also really like the FN SCAR 16 which might come close to giving you the HK panache at a lot less money + Gas Piston which I have come to prefer and cannot recommend enough for everything except a scoped AR for match purposes.

TIER 2

If you have to stay close to your stated budget and want very high quality but not top tier, Look at LMT, Daniel Defense, COLT and then anything by BRAVO Co.

TIER 3

A little less money but still a very good AR would be RRA, Smith & Wesson and then Stag.

* I would not go below this : )


58 posted on 07/31/2012 8:01:23 PM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: usconservative

SIG 516. Piston operated, no break in, accurate and reliable right out of the box. It might be $1400, though. It’s a gas piston system that is just as light as a regular AR

The Ruger 556 is too heavy.

If you want something you can rough around in realistic competitions and not come appart, you will have to go with LMT, LWRC which are pricey

DPMS are fine and cheap but do not have the rugged treatment resiliency of the others.

This chart might help...

http://gunfacts.webs.com/M4Chart1.gif
Colt
BCM
Daniel Defense
Noveske
LMT
(Spikes)
(LaRue)


59 posted on 07/31/2012 8:10:42 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: LouAvul

Yep, the SIG 716 is bad a$$... and it is light for a 762, lighter than some ARs in 556 out there. Pricey, though.


60 posted on 07/31/2012 8:23:05 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: usconservative

If you get something direct impingement, get POF roller cam kit. I did have some issues with my DPMS with it (cam stuck too high and had to slightly file the rifle’s cam lock notch, so you might as well get a POF rifle altogether.


61 posted on 07/31/2012 8:29:10 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The old conventional wisdom was "A-B-C": Armalite, Bushmaster, or Colt.

The new sheriff in town is Stag Arms; specifically the Stag Model 3.

62 posted on 07/31/2012 8:39:58 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Buy a flattop from CMMG, Spikes Tactical or one of many good sources.
Spend maybe $800..... use the rest for a decent red dot optic and P Mags.


63 posted on 07/31/2012 11:56:01 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: PzLdr
"Look at DPSM, Rock River."

No, no, no, on DPMS unless you do not care about a lack of functional reliability. DPMS M4 type carbines display serious problems of premature extraction because of gas port holes larger than needed for a carbine length weapon. Symptom include the extractor pulling through the rim, leaving a shellcase stuck in the chamber. Colts are the most reliable, followed by Bushmaster,

64 posted on 08/01/2012 12:14:13 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: usconservative
primarily for defense

If that is the case, then BCM, Colt, Daniel Defense or Noveske are the ones to concentrate on (IMO... and I've tried a lot of the others before coming to that conclusion). Most of the other brands will be fine for plinking, paper punching or hunting things that can't hunt you back.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd shop around for a Colt 6920, put a decent red dot or holographic sight on it, sling it intelligently and then practice, practice, practice.

Mr. niteowl77

65 posted on 08/01/2012 3:57:58 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: CollegeRepublican
I have been thinking about getting a AR-10 .308 type

The sites I looked at seem to be overly concerned with what to do to fix the guns... not a good sign.

66 posted on 08/01/2012 7:33:09 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ExcursionGuy84
The reason I was laughing about it is that there are multi-thousand post threads on the gun boards arguing best AR, best AK and which is the better rifle. One of the historic board wars was between AK-47.net and AR-15.com.

The whole thing is a long standing joke on the firearms forums...

67 posted on 08/01/2012 7:13:05 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: PubliusMM

Why do you swap out your magazines every year? I have magazines that are more than 30 years old and they work better than many I have purchased since.

Just curious as to your thoughts on the matter. TX


68 posted on 08/02/2012 7:25:09 AM PDT by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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