Skip to comments.Why classic albums are selling more than new ones
Posted on 08/05/2012 1:17:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
In the first half of 2012, catalog albumsthe industrys term for discs released more than 18 months agosold 76.6 million units. New albums tallied 73.9 units. Its a narrow victory, but the margin will increase slowly, steadily over time. New will never top old again.
There is a simple, straightforward reason so many catalog titles dot Billboards album charts this summer: price cuts.
Labels and retailers have slashed prices on catalog releases, making them, on average, $5 cheaper than new releases. This has had a dramatic effect. Phil Collins couldnt be less hip, but last week, when Amazons MP3 store cut Collins
Hits to 99 cents, Mr. Sussudio popped in at No. 6, ahead of such contemporary stars as One Direction, Chris Brown and Maroon 5 on the Billboard 200.
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Because what passes for music today sucks.....not saying that good music isn’t being made today, but you have to seek it out, but as far as the music that is popular, it blows.
My 10-year old son is totally hooked on classic rock, more than once he said to me, “Dad, you’re so lucky that you had good music in your day.” I agree 100%.
I’m with you there, even though I’ve never owned a linear tracking turntable or anything else so fancy.
Analog original recordings rule too.
“Everything that can be invented HAS been invented.” Charles H. Duell, U.S. Commissioner of Patents, in 1899.
“Every good song and every good movie and every good book that can be written HAS been written.” Me, 2012
The music died when disco was born.
“Rock n Roll’s been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died.”
The reason is quality.
I can only think of two:
How often have you heard either of these songs on the radio in - say - the last five years?
100 years from now, they will still be playing The Beatles.
What songs from the last 20 years will they be playing 100 years from now?
All the great riffs have been done but there are still plenty left out there that suck and they are not being wasted.
But this guy hit the nail on the head....albeit 169 years too early:
Ref: Patent Office Commissioner, Henry Ellsworth’s 1843 report to Congress. In it Ellsworth states, “The advancement of the arts, from year to year, taxes our credulity and seems to presage the arrival of that period when human improvement must end.”
We’re now there.
RUSH was at number 1 on amazon the other day due to the 99 cent sale thing - with their album that just came out this summer - “Clockwork Angels”. Great music - available on vinyl as well.
I think a lot of the sales figures are due to folks just buying 1 or 2 digital songs. Heck, lots of groups are just putting out 1 or 2 songs. (Rush did that two years ago, and the two songs were precursors to the new album).
I think it is pretty hard for the artists to make any money just selling music nowadays.
I blame Michael Jackson and Madonna. They got to be hugely successful by emphasizing all the wrong things.
“John Milner”, owner of the “bitchinist car in the valley”.
“...on the radio...”
What is this thing “radio” that you speak of?
I’m sorry, I really don’t want to pay an outrageous price for a song I sort of like and 7-12 songs I hate, then watch liberal artists live like kings on my money and mock me from their lofty heights.
I’ll keep my money.
Two words: Antique Stores. Last weekend I took the Mrs. out to do her favorite thing: antique shopping. It was payback for her going to the Paul Rogers/Lynyrd Skynyrd concert a few weeks ago.
One of the antiqe shops we walked into had 20+ boxes of old albums. I spent more than 2 hours going through about half of them, and pulled out 40+ vinyl albums - all in reconditionable/cleanable/playable conditions that I wanted.
Classics from Boston, Queen, Peter Frampton (Frampton Comes Alive, standard issue when I was in high school) Paul Rogers, Queen, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, UFO (an album I lost during a move years ago..) and more.
Cost: $2 each. Ran them through the record cleaner and test played them all. Near perfect on my recently repaired Micro Seiki turntable.
I've heard Vinyl is outselling CD's in parts of Europe now, seems to be a resurgence in vinyl albums.
To some extent, we’ve gone “back to the future” with downloads being the new 45s, and albums becoming irrelevant. It took Sgt Pepper’s to make the album king.
I was about to say something similar. I believe the phrase is “forward to the past” though . . .
Rock n Rolls been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died.
I have to agree. Not much attention has ever been applied to the beautiful doowop music made by the black rnb groups of the 50’s. I’m not addressing the top 100 records played over and over again on the popular AM bands; but the groups that never made the crossover to white audiences because of racial concerns. Vinyl and pre vinyl 78 rpm discs, made for something collectable, IMO unlike the compact disk.
The music business killed the music business. remember all the bands and music coming out daily in the 60’s and 70’s until the record companies pick and chose who would live or die
I have “The Who at the Isle of Wight” from 1970 on DVD.....the stage was just the four of them....no pyrotechnics, no fancy light shows.....and it totally blows away anything else I’d ever seen....because the four of them were at the top of their game in their respective instruments, and their stage presence, they were the show, not the effects.
Video Killed the Radio Star.
A few years ago one of my friends kids gave me a ride and was surprised that I like the Led Zep he was playing in his car. He had no idea when it was recorded. I told him his dad and had listened to the same album on 8 track in my ‘68 Cuda.
Zappa hit it on the head, in the 70s, the Record Companies got taken over by the former hippies, turned young hipsters who thought that because they were young and hip, they knew what music was cool and what wasn’t, as opposed to the old cigar-chomping guys in the 60s, who would go, “Let’s take a chance, and see what happens.”
What songs from the last 20 years will they be playing 100 years from now?
Zero, I'll wager. Goes double for "Rap."
"Classic" stations play music from 30-45 years ago.
There are no "Classic grunge" stations to the best of my knowledge.
How often do you hear Nirvana - or any other gen-X music - played on any radio station, "Classic" or otherwise?
Smashing Pumpkins, Counting Crows, Hootie and the Blowfish, Nickelback, The Gin Blossoms... nobody gives a ripe f*rt for any of them any more. Know why? Cause they're garbage, that's why.
We are running out of bands that can fill stadiums, I think U2 may very well be the last band able to do so.
Me and my Youngest daughter 14 now are hooked on Pink Floyd their old stuff and up to the 94 Division Bell. Music nowadays sucks. Dark Side of the Moon is still one of the top selling albums.
I always marveled at their work ethic. It was never fame. It was putting out the music.
A lot of people thought Johnny Maestro was a snob. He wasn't. He was a very shy person. On stage, he commanded. Go figure.
The Beatles are dead. Pink Floyd keeps going and going, as a classic group. Not together any more but their albums and Roger Waters Wall tour are still selling like mad. The Wall tour has been the highest attended tour in the last 3 years. He is 68 yrs old and he still gets up there and runs around the stage and throws a hell of a show. No Disrespect to you.
Bad taste lives forever!
Steely Dan can pack a room with millionaires.
You still can find some great music if you look hard enough.
This for example.
I’ve been listening lately (and re-listening) to Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars.
An album that consistently makes it into the top 25 of the greatest RNR albums ever pretty much whoever is putting the list together.
And no matter what comes out as “music” these days, Ziggy will probably still be in the top 25 100 years from now.
Wanna whole lotta...(click)...love, wanna whole lot of...
And when the tape fouled all that time spent to wind it back up tight...
When I was in college and even for some time after, I thought “I will always love rock ‘n roll...”. Then came disco, grunge, rap and whatever passes for hit music today.
I have switched my allegance to Texas country - great music, great artists and great fans.
I still love rock, especially the old vinyl. Thanks goodness for yard sales and Goodwill for helping me replace many of the favorites that I tossed off of the back of the wagon during one of my many moves - easier to move those new fangled CD’s than vinyl.....
Two of my sons - both in their 30’s - are vinyl collectors. Much of theirs is of newer indie bands - plus you get cover art!
Ditto. It's been all downhill since the Kingston Trio.
It's been all downhill since Rudy Vallee.
I hear Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. regularly on my local "modern" rock station. I laugh when this call this stuff modern. It's 20 years old!
Anyways, I'm done with CDs and radio. I'm done with buying music. I've discovered Pandora and that's all I listen to. I type in the bands that I like and Pandora creates my own radio station (with not only the bands I selected but other bands that Pandora's "music DNA" have found to be similar).
There’s a guy on the lower east side that sets up a few tables on the weekend. I’ve never seen a collection of records like this. Several versions of the same record - who knows what they are. But he’s such a complete jackass that I don’t go there anymore.
I know a 12 year old kid who is really, really getting into listening to Electric Light Orchestra.
He is a pretty decent musician, and has listened to true “classical” music growing up, so this isn’t much of a stretch, I guess...but refreshing to see someone his age not buying into the Katy Perry-like crap.
Classic albums sell well because old geezers and their poor brainwashed children, who should be listening to good contemporary stuff, and there is plenty of it, if not on the charts, the geezers and their kids keep buying the old albums or their new remixed (read: louder) versions with bonus tracks, after they bought old remixed versions with different bonus tracks, and before that cassettes and before that quadraphonic mixes, and before that...
The kids are all right, and they don’t buy albums filled as always since the invention of 33 1/3 with filler, but singles, and now they buy without having to buy the B sides, which were on Phil Spector’s and Cameo/Parker (and many others’) 45s pure garbage, when they buy today from iTunes and Amazon, and that’s how the world should work.
Is Pandora an app?
“I always marveled at their work ethic. It was never fame. It was putting out the music.”
A lot of groups also did it to attract the woman. Many were on a ego trip, they did get the chicks. BTW what was your group name?
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