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India-Style Blackout Could Strike The U.S.
Forbes ^ | 8-6-2012 | Aaron Jagdfeld

Posted on 08/08/2012 12:40:41 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

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Fixing our power grid is no simple feat. The best estimates put the price tag for a new grid at two trillion dollars, or about 14% of our current gross domestic product. There is no legitimate national plan to create a new grid, nor are there public funds available to fix the grid we have.

American utility companies are as constrained as the government when it comes to meaningful investment in grid improvement. The 3,200 utility companies that touch the power grid are regulated by an equal number of agencies, many of which exist solely to minimize cost to consumers. This is undeniably good for consumers in most cases, but it has left us with a broken power grid that no one is responsible for (or capable of) fixing.

To address the frequent power outages we’ve been experiencing, we must secure a massive commitment of resources from both public and private sectors. In the absence of such a commitment, Americans must prepare for outages, blackouts, brownouts and chaotic power reliability. We must commit ourselves to the knowledge that long-duration power outages are not something that happens elsewhere. India is only geographically distant from us; its current power outage is actually far closer than we might think.

Preparation will take many forms. Families must have a supply of food and water that is not dependent on electricity to store or prepare. Businesses must back-up data and maintain secure facilities that don’t require grid-based power to remain viable. But these are the very first steps.

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There is no perfect solution to address our electrical grid’s disrepair or our nation’s increasingly poor power quality. Fixing the grid is staggeringly expensive at a time when our nation’s budget is tight. .....

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This is a guest post by Aaron Jagdfeld, president and chief executive officer of Generac Power Systems in Waukesha, WI.
1 posted on 08/08/2012 12:40:45 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Kartographer

Not a prepper article, just a FYI.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 12:45:29 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

We’ll be without power for about .5 second before the Generac kicks on.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 12:51:21 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sad thing is that with a gas generator, one is dependent upon the gas station being apply to supply gas to the pump, via an electronic pumping mechanism. If they have no generator and no electricity, I’m betting even a gas powered generator will not suffice.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 12:54:22 PM PDT by I_Publius
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yeah...and the year 2012 will see the fastest shut down of Coal fired plants, EVER!


5 posted on 08/08/2012 12:57:25 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: I_Publius; Sir Napsalot
I'm going to guess that Sir Napsalot has a standby unit, not a portable one. It most likely runs on natural gas instead of gasoline. I described a similar, but much less expensive, solution in this thread.

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6 posted on 08/08/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: _Jim

Saw this, thought of you, don’t know why...

};^P>


7 posted on 08/08/2012 1:06:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: I_Publius
You don't have a wood gasifier to run IC engines if gasoline goes away?

They were all the rage in WWII, and I think FEMA has a brochure on how to build one.

/johnny

8 posted on 08/08/2012 1:21:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Gekgasifier.com
Solar1234.com


9 posted on 08/08/2012 1:30:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Cooks don't get a choice. We have to make things work. You pick up a lot of strange information because of that. ;)

/johnny

10 posted on 08/08/2012 1:44:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Gekgasifier.com
Solar1234.com

Information on gasifiers and emergency power


11 posted on 08/08/2012 1:48:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Lurker

Both your article and discussion thread are really good. Lots of useful info there.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 1:56:31 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: ScottinVA

“We’ll be without power for about .5 second before the Generac kicks on.”

Hungry Zombies are attracted to bright lights and noises.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 2:19:43 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: Sir Napsalot

I’m happy I could be of service.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 2:51:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MrB

Those gasifier’s kind of remind me of the old stills one might would see from time to time in the area I’m originally from. Not that anyone I knew would have one of those, of course. Those were before my time! :)


15 posted on 08/08/2012 7:20:02 PM PDT by I_Publius
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To: Sir Napsalot
Before we go running around in circles, and shouting, who decided that the grid is broken, and it needs fixing or replacement?
What is the basis of this determination?
Did it happen overnight?

The impression this article gives, that it's an all or nothing thing, is unacceptable.

The notion that the solution is individual personal generators, is asinine.

16 posted on 08/08/2012 7:48:11 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Lurker

Anyone thinking about buying a whole house generator would do well to look at the warranty, especially the fine print. If you can afford one, get one with a prime rating and not just one with a standby rating. There are natural gas fueled gensets out there you can run constantly for almost three months before any maintenance is required.

For longevity pick an 1800 rpm unit rather than a 3600 rpm unit.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 7:51:29 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Does anyone yet really know what were the causes of the India blackout? For such a major world event, why the total silence?
How similar is the US to India?
Not very, is my guess.
18 posted on 08/08/2012 7:57:16 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Please note that the person who wrote this just happens to work for a company that mnufactures standby generators.


19 posted on 08/08/2012 8:31:43 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: meatloaf

Would you please explain the difference between prime and standby ratings? I know nothing about that. Thank you.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 8:35:00 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: publius911

Due to erratic power supply in India, a large proportion of the homes there have back-up UPS systems powered by truck batteries, and private businesses almost always have gensets for back-up.

Reliable power supply in the US means that most here are unprepared for when the power supply is knocked off the grid. On top of that, reliance on electricity here is acute.


21 posted on 08/08/2012 9:05:01 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Sir Napsalot; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

We all could die!


22 posted on 08/08/2012 9:07:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Lurker

Generally a prime rating for a well built generator is the load it can supply running continuously. Standby is a higher load rating that can be supplied on a short time basis. Running on a standby basis usually causes more heat buildup in the generator windings and will damage the generator if the unit is operated at that load over a longer period.

Some mass market generators have specific warranty exclusions for continuous (prime) use. Running them continuously is considered a non-residential mode and voids the warranty.

If you live in an area with the potential for a long power outage, you don’t want a generator only rated for standby use unless you can get by only running it intermittently. If you need to run it 7/24 for an extended period, it won’t survive.


23 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf

Thanks very much for the information. I appreciate the help. I’ll have to dig back into my owners manual and warranty information.


24 posted on 08/09/2012 7:57:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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