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The national debt increase under President George W. Bush -- $6.1 ZOT
Treasury Direct ^ | 30 August 2012

Posted on 08/30/2012 11:47:00 AM PDT by moonshot925

30 September 2001 = 5,807,463,412,200

30 September 2009 = 11,909,829,003,512

Total Increase = 6,102,365,591,312

Increase in by Fiscal Year

FY 2002 = 420,772,553,397 FY 2003 = 554,995,097,146 FY 2004 = 595,821,633,587 FY 2055 = 553,656,965,393 FY 2006 = 574,264,237,492 FY 2007 = 500,679,473,047 FY 2008 = 1,017,071,524,650 FY 2009 = 1,885,104,106,599


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History
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The GOP has not been fiscally responsible.
1 posted on 08/30/2012 11:47:13 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

You neglect to indicate that your SEPTEMBER 30, 2009 number of 11 trillion is about 9 months AFTER Obama took office....are you some kind of troll?


2 posted on 08/30/2012 11:49:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: moonshot925

Who was in charge of the purse after January of 2007?


3 posted on 08/30/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by Perdogg (Mutts for Mitt all agree - Better in the crate than on the plate)
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To: moonshot925

Note the last two years, when it really exploded, was when the Rats had taken control of Congress.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Gaffer

Fiscal Year 2009 ran from 1 October 2008 to 30 September 2009.

This was President Bush’s last budget.

He is responsible.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 11:50:54 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

I’d take a good chunk of that last $1.8 billion out since Obama took over and passed more spending bills in early 2009 but even if you do, you are right. Lyndon Baines Bush never tried to get spending under control. While he did several things right, he was a Rockefeller Republican just like his daddy when it came to spending and entitlements. There is no getting around it. And the “Republican” Congress he had until 2007 went along with it. It completely undermined the Republican message and set the stage for disaster and Obama.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 11:50:54 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: moonshot925

moonshot925
Since May 19, 2012


7 posted on 08/30/2012 11:51:03 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: moonshot925

Spending bills originate in congress, look at the big jump in 2008 when the dems took over. The budgets prior, while still far too much, were rather flat in comparison.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 11:51:09 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: moonshot925

True. But in 4 years, Obama has increased the national debt by almost as much as Bush increased it in 8 years. So neither is reducing the debt, but the Dems are increasing it twice as fast.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: moonshot925

Duh....Obama has amassed more debt in four years than Bush 43 did in eight. Wanna estimate what BO will ring up in 8 years, should we be cursed with his second term?


10 posted on 08/30/2012 11:52:23 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: moonshot925

Bush isn’t on the ballot.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 11:52:36 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: Perdogg; DuncanWaring

The Democrats are big socialist spenders. There is no doubt about it.

But Republicans had control of the House and Senate from January 2001 to January 2009.

There is no reason the debt should have skyrocketed under their leadership.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 11:52:52 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: TSgt

I am just pointing out that the past 3 GOP Presidents have been big spenders.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 11:53:49 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
And the Democrats under Obama increased the debt by 5 trillion in 3.5 years.

So nice try Obamabot but no sale.

14 posted on 08/30/2012 11:54:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: moonshot925

didn’t the democrats take control in 2006?

Does this figure take Obama’s 2009 stimulus into account?


15 posted on 08/30/2012 11:54:28 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: Perdogg; DuncanWaring

The Republicans had control of the House and Senate until January 2007. That is what I meant.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Congress makes the budget.


17 posted on 08/30/2012 11:55:01 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: moonshot925

No, they have not. Our current candidate has no plans to be any different. We had a choice during the primary season.


18 posted on 08/30/2012 11:55:07 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: moonshot925

There was no approved budget under Obama as far as I’m aware. They have been operating under CRAs for virtually his entire administrations and HE is responsible for the Trillion Plus deficits each year since then. Add to that the TARP, QEs and all the rest and you have a debt explosion. Add the fact that the Republicans were not in control since 2007.

While Republicans are indeed fiscally irresponsible, the problem is Obama and the Democrats and that’s why I think your post is disingenuous.


19 posted on 08/30/2012 11:55:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MNDude
didn’t the democrats take control in 2006

Yes I made a typo.

20 posted on 08/30/2012 11:56:05 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
No CONGRESS, not the President, sets the Budget. And who ran the Congress in 2008 and 2009? Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosie and the Democrats

So nice try Obamabot but as usual completely divorced for any measure of intellectual honesty

21 posted on 08/30/2012 11:56:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: moonshot925

And the purpose is WHY?


22 posted on 08/30/2012 11:56:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Perdogg

Who was in charge of the veto pen/pocket and bully pulpit thus spelling out that government will be shut down until some adults can send up a responsible budget for that particular executive to sign off to?


23 posted on 08/30/2012 11:57:18 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: moonshot925

No they haven’t. And I don’t expect Romney to do a whole lot better. But Obama’s been running up the debt at twice the clip that Bush had. So if you’re heading towards a brick wall, do you want to be in the car doing 50 miles an hour towards it or the one doing 25?


24 posted on 08/30/2012 11:57:43 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: moonshot925; Gaffer
You neglect to indicate that your SEPTEMBER 30, 2009 number of 11 trillion is about 9 months AFTER Obama took office....are you some kind of troll?

With a 5-19-2012 sign up date...?

25 posted on 08/30/2012 11:58:29 AM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: moonshot925
He is responsible.

While you general premise is correct, this point is not, in my opinion. The budget that was passed and signed by Obama was not what Bush requested. It pains me to defend the compassionate conservative, but Obama is mostly responsible for spending in 2009.
26 posted on 08/30/2012 11:58:55 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: moonshot925

None of the 0bama stimulus spending (IIRC totaling ~1.5 trillion) was included in any of Bush’s budgets.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 11:59:15 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Gaffer

I was just thinking about what the GOP did when they had control.

Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind and more domestic programs.

It skyrocketed our national debt.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 11:59:42 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: rollo tomasi

Ah I see, so as usual the Obamabot poster wants to totally ignore what the Democrat Congress did in the vain hope they can distracted and deflect attention off the complete irresponsibility of their Democrat party idols with the people’s check book


29 posted on 08/30/2012 11:59:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: moonshot925
I am just pointing out that the past 3 GOP Presidents have been big spenders.

Oh, and Obama isn't, Newbie?

30 posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:02 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: moonshot925
January 22, 2001 - 5,728,195,796,181.57
January 20, 2009 - 10,626,877,048,913.08

Check my subtraction but that sure looks like $4,898,681,252,731.51 difference to me.

I hate to quibble about a mere $1.2 Trillion or so, but...

31 posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:16 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: moonshot925

There was a deficit but clearly 0bama didn’t do what he should have done
to fix it. HE MADE IT WORSE!

You would be better off at kos.
This is a conservative site.


32 posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:28 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: DuncanWaring

Note the last two years, when it really exploded, was when the Rats had taken control of Congress.

Isn’t that also when the Recession started? We the hell don’t the Repubs talk about DAT?!!!


33 posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: moonshot925
January 2001 to January 2009.

The GOP lost control of Congress in the 2006 elections. So if you cannot be bothered to get even the most basic facts right, we have no reason to listen to your rabidly ignorant posting.

I smell ozone in your further 0bama tool.

34 posted on 08/30/2012 12:02:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: bcsco; MNJohnnie

I voted for President Bush twice and McCain in 2008.

But I just don’t think the GOP has really been fiscally conservative at all.

That does NOT make me a fan of Obama.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 12:02:33 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: bcsco

There are conservatives that have signed up recently and I’d not ordinarily condemn them because of a date.

However, I see no point in this article that gives ‘facts’ that have been not been explained. I see no purpose but to foment dissatisfaction with Bush and therefore Republicans, in general, now. Yes, GOPe Republicans have been spendthrifts...are we supposed to translate this to “Romney/Ryan” will do the same now?


36 posted on 08/30/2012 12:02:40 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: moonshot925
But Republicans had control of the House and Senate from January 2001 to January 2009.

I'm pretty sure the dems have controlled at least the Senate since 2006.
37 posted on 08/30/2012 12:03:09 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: moonshot925
No it didn't

Last GOP and Bush Budget. Federal Deficit 2006 $160 billion

Last Democrat Congress and O budget. Federal Deficit 2010 1.6 trillion

So rather then keep mindlessly propagandizing for the Obama Democrats, take the time to learn even the most basic facts.

38 posted on 08/30/2012 12:04:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: moonshot925

So President Bush is responsible for a trillion dollars of wasted stimulus spending during 2009, while he was sitting in his Texas home? Is he responsible for spending bills and GM takeovers that took place after Obama was inaugerated. Following your logic, he might as well be responsible for 2012 spending too.


39 posted on 08/30/2012 12:04:56 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: moonshot925

I won’t argue they increased debt. I’m as much pi$$ed off at the GOPe as anybody...I’ve even dissed Bush on DHS and TSA and neglect of the economy. But I see no purpose for this at this point in time. All the circumstances surrounding events after 2007 are highly subjective and political as hell, and your numbers don’t take that into account.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 12:05:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: moonshot925

>The GOP has not been fiscally responsible.

No question. Best you can say is they are the only ones who are willing to hint at the big problem which is entitlement reform. They certainly can’t broach raising taxes without getting hammered. Soon as you can get some real strength of showing among voters with an alternative that is not the Democratic party (at least todays Democratic party), give us a shout.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 12:05:34 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: Gaffer
Valid point. So let's adjust, because the poster's original point is still valid.

09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49

That's a $4.350 Trillion increase over 8 years under Bush.
Compared to $15,950 trillion debt now. An increase under Obama of $5.926 Trillion in just under 4 years.

However, Obama inherited Bush's Drug Plan which wasn't really reflected in Bush's numbers. Obama also inherited a Financial crisis which dropped Gov't Revenues while driving outlays up. He inherited Tarp but that was paid back. Obama did not inherit the Stimulus program, that was all Obama.

And Obama's numbers for 4 years don't reflect most of the costs for Obamacare which won't really start hitting until next year.

42 posted on 08/30/2012 12:05:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: andyk

From January 2001 to January 2007.

The Repubs controlled both the House and Senate.

And domestic spending skyrocketed.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 12:05:59 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: TribalPrincess2U; moonshot925; Old Sarge; TheOldLady; darkwing104; Darksheare; 50mm
You would be better off at kos.

Or DU. Which I suspect he's hiding. Somehow, I don't think this Newbie's screen name refers to our 1969 moon, landing but another kind of "moonshot" he's giving us...

44 posted on 08/30/2012 12:06:05 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Perdogg
WINNERS !!!!!!

an yet the Repubs can't make a campaign spot showing this...amazing.


45 posted on 08/30/2012 12:06:26 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Ransom "Rance" Stoddard)
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To: Gaffer

Yup, pretty much.. and has been called out on it for a few months.. guess the admin likes a chew toy for us.. but I just ignore troll posts (unless absolutely necessary to post a troll pic or something ;~) )


46 posted on 08/30/2012 12:06:50 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: moonshot925

You need to study up a little bit. Democrats took the house and senate in 2006, and took office in january 2007.


47 posted on 08/30/2012 12:07:23 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Gaffer
There are conservatives that have signed up recently and I’d not ordinarily condemn them because of a date.

Nor did I. I took the signup date and the nature of the post both into consideration. My "sniffer" is working overtime...

48 posted on 08/30/2012 12:09:07 PM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: moonshot925

FY 2008 = 1,017,071,524,650 FY 2009 = 1,885,104,106,599

Add them up! They’re ~2 trillion, all by the RAT Congress, what do you say to that?

There’s a Trolley Bus stop right around the corner of FR building.


49 posted on 08/30/2012 12:09:42 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: moonshot925

Why do so many citizens not know our Constitution? Congress controls the spending, the President carries it out.


50 posted on 08/30/2012 12:09:52 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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