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B-17 - Fantastic Story of Survival
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Posted on 09/02/2012 8:54:46 AM PDT by Windflier

WWII B-17 Survival Story


B-17 "All American" (414th Squadron, 97BG) Crew
Pilot- Ken Bragg Jr.
Copilot- G. Boyd Jr.
Navigator- Harry C. Nuessle
Bombardier- Ralph Burbridge
Engineer- Joe C. James
Radio Operator- Paul A. Galloway
Ball Turret Gunner- Elton Conda
Waist Gunner- Michael Zuk
Tail Gunner- Sam T. Sarpolus
Ground Crew Chief- Hank Hyland


B-17 in 1943

A mid-air collision on February 1, 1943, between a B-17 and a German fighter over the Tunis dock area, became the subject of one of the most famous photographs of World War II. An enemy fighter attacking a 97th Bomb Group formation went out of control, probably with a wounded pilot then continued its crashing descent into the rear of the fuselage of a Fortress named All American, piloted by Lt. Kendrick R. Bragg, of the 414th Bomb Squadron. When it struck, the fighter broke apart, but left some pieces in the B-17. The left horizontal stabilizer of the Fortress and left elevator were completely torn away. The two right engines were out and one on the left had a serious oil pump leak. The vertical fin and the rudder had been damaged, the fuselage had been cut almost completely through connected only at two small parts of the frame and the radios, electrical and oxygen systems were damaged. There was also a hole in the top that was over 16 feet long and 4 feet wide at its widest and the split in the fuselage went all the way to the top gunners turret.

Although the tail actually bounced and swayed in the wind and twisted when the plane turned and all the control cables were severed, except one single elevator cable still worked, and the aircraft still flew - miraculously! The tail gunner was trapped because there was no floor connecting the tail to the rest of the plane. The waist and tail gunners used parts of the German fighter and their own parachute harnesses in an attempt to keep the tail from ripping off and the two sides of the fuselage from splitting apart. While the crew was trying to keep the bomber from coming apart, the pilot continued on his bomb run and released his bombs over the target.

When the bomb bay doors were opened, the wind turbulence was so great that it blew one of the waist gunners into the broken tail section. It took several minutes and four crew members to pass him ropes from parachutes and haul him back into the forward part of the plane. When they tried to do the same for the tail gunner, the tail began flapping so hard that it began to break off. The weight of the gunner was adding some stability to the tail section, so he went back to his position.

The turn back toward England had to be very slow to keep the tail from twisting off. They actually covered almost 70 miles to make the turn home. The bomber was so badly damaged that it was losing altitude and speed and was soon alone in the sky. For a brief time, two more Me-109 German fighters attacked the All American. Despite the extensive damage, all of the machine gunners were able to respond to these attacks and soon drove off the fighters. The two waist gunners stood up with their heads sticking out through the hole in the top of the fuselage to aim and fire their machine guns. The tail gunner had to shoot in short bursts because the recoil was actually causing the plane to turn.

Allied P-51 fighters intercepted the All American as it crossed over the Channel and took one of the pictures shown. They also radioed to the base describing that the empennage was waving like a fish tail and that the plane would not make it and to send out boats to rescue the crew when they bailed out. The fighters stayed with the Fortress taking hand signals from Lt. Bragg and relaying them to the base. Lt. Bragg signaled that 5 parachutes and the spare had been "used" so five of the crew could not bail out. He made the decision that if they could not bail out safely, then he would stay with the plane and land it.

Two and a half hours after being hit, the aircraft made its final turn to line up with the runway while it was still over 40 miles away. It descended into an emergency landing and a normal roll-out on its landing gear.

When the ambulance pulled alongside, it was waved off because not a single member of the crew had been injured. No one could believe that the aircraft could still fly in such a condition. The Fortress sat placidly until the crew all exited through the door in the fuselage and the tail gunner had climbed down a ladder, at which time the entire rear section of the aircraft collapsed onto the ground. The rugged old bird had done its job.




TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aircraft; b17; boeing; godsgravesglyphs; worldwareleven; worldwarii; worldwartwo
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To: centurion316
This aircraft was damaged over the port of Tunis. That’s in Tunisia, on the coast of North Africa. They didn’t come from England and they certainly did not return there.

I hadn't noticed that until someone pointed it out upthread. I've got to agree. That one element of the story can't possibly be correct, although I don't think it detracts from the meat of the report.

The Boeing B-17 is still one of the toughest war birds ever built.

21 posted on 09/02/2012 9:56:14 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I don’t think it was a question of workmanship as much as design. A lot of American World War II aircraft were sledgehammers, the P-47, the F-6 Hellcat, all the Boeing bombers. The Lancaster was mostly used for night bombing for a reason, they simply would not have survived daytime flying over Germany.

The Lancaster was an impressive weapon and superbly flown and employed, but it was nowhere near as rugged as the B-17.


22 posted on 09/02/2012 9:59:31 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Delhi Rebels
I've got a book by Caidin titled “Black Friday” about the
raids on the ball bearing plants at Schwinefurt.

In that book there is a account of a B-17 landing in England
with no crew aboard. It touched down near a British AA battery.
The first people to access the aircraft got the engines shut
down by trial and error. And while in the plane noticed that
what they thought to be parachutes still in the plane. Turns
out that what they thought to be parachutes were actually
protective bags for the chest type chutes. The crew had bailed
out over the channel with the auto pilot on. The engines
were not making enough power for them to get home so they
bailed. I guess that the engines either picked back up again
or the reduced weight, the crew having left the airplane was
just enough for the plane to get back to England, by itself.

Mike

23 posted on 09/02/2012 10:01:42 AM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: 2sheds
Most beatiful plane ever built.

I heartily agree. I've loved that plane since I was a kid. It's still number one in my book.




24 posted on 09/02/2012 10:04:12 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: doublecansiter
The 97th Bomb Group was based in North Africa at that time, not England. Their base was in Algeria or Libya. Still a great feat of airman ship to get her home.

Thanks for adding that clarification to the story, DC. Much appreciated.

25 posted on 09/02/2012 10:06:31 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sequoyah101
I googled the pilot of the plane (Lt Kendrick R. Bragg). The story has been embellished over the years, it did happen. But they did not fly back to England, they flew back to Biskra Algeria
26 posted on 09/02/2012 10:07:08 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: doublecansiter

It seems I was off a day on the book title. It is Actually
titled “Black Thursday”.

Mike


27 posted on 09/02/2012 10:09:03 AM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: Windflier; SeraphimApprentice; zot; Interesting Times

Windflier, thank you for posting this.


28 posted on 09/02/2012 10:14:48 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Windflier

You are welcome. Thank you for posting the pictures of
Aluminum Overcast!

Can’t have a B-17 thread without pictures.

Mike


29 posted on 09/02/2012 10:20:04 AM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: GreyFriar
thank you for posting this.

You bet, GF. My pleasure.

30 posted on 09/02/2012 10:22:44 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: centurion316

http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php?topic=11523.0;wap2

Is a more plausible account. BTW, I believe that the B-17 owned by the Collings Foundation, of Stow MA (about 10 miles from where I sit) is another B-17, renamed and renumbered in honor of this veteran, not the same airframe.

The B-17 waist gunner also acted as photographer and was supposed to take pictures of anything interesting that he saw.

BTW, this waistgunner http://www.harvardpress.com/DesktopModules/DnnForge%20-%20NewsArticles/Print.aspx?tabid=2190&tabmoduleid=7735&articleId=8853&moduleId=3353&PortalID=0

saw an FW-190 fly in formation with his B-17 on his first mission, he snapped a picture of it, then proceeded to shoot it down. A strange war.


31 posted on 09/02/2012 10:27:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: doublecansiter
Can’t have a B-17 thread without pictures.

Yeah, I noticed that there wasn't much in the way of eye candy on the thread, so I grabbed those two shots from my bookmarks.



32 posted on 09/02/2012 10:28:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Incredible story! I can't help but wonder if Steven Spielberg used it as the basis for his episode of "Amazing Stories" - "The Mission" (1985) -- which also featured a damaged B-17 and a trapped tail gunner.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0511124/

33 posted on 09/02/2012 10:28:58 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Windflier
The turn back toward England

England? One would think that a bomber damaged over Tunis wold have flown to a base in Malta, Algeria or Libya.

34 posted on 09/02/2012 10:35:46 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Fiji Hill
England? One would think that a bomber damaged over Tunis wold have flown to a base in Malta, Algeria or Libya.

Yet another astute observer. That inconsistency got sorted out on the thread.

35 posted on 09/02/2012 10:44:34 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Wow. Methinks a miracle.

Don't know why, but this reminded of a Twilight Zone episode (ball gunner, no landing gear).

5.56mm

36 posted on 09/02/2012 10:45:59 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes, a much better account. The mission logs of the 97th BG show that the mission of 31 Jan 43 was to Bizerti, and the mission of 1 Feb 43 was to Tunis.


37 posted on 09/02/2012 10:56:52 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: M Kehoe
...this reminded of a Twilight Zone episode (ball gunner, no landing gear).

Right. I remember that television short. I think Steven Spielberg produced it. What a story.



38 posted on 09/02/2012 11:00:11 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Agree, still a remarkable story.


39 posted on 09/02/2012 11:00:46 AM PDT by centurion316
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40 posted on 09/02/2012 11:05:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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