Because there's some perverse element in my psyche that thinks it would be hysterically insulting to cap some thug with a "Hello Kitty" 9mm.
:)
[my Mossberg, however, is plain, utilitarian black and stainless steel...how boring]
Posted on 09/14/2012 10:36:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog
Shooting as a pastime is getting more and more popular every day. **snip** This is especially true with women, who are leading the curve as the fastest-growing segment of the market. But we still get reports of stories like this one, about Prayse Dangler, who was prohibited to buy a shotgun by her local Walmart staff—because a Mossberg 930 was too much gun for a woman.
"Yesterday at Walmart I tried to buy a shotgun to keep at the house with me when Brad is gone. We live in the heart of downtown New Albany where there is a lot of foot traffic, and we believe that me having a reliable way to protect myself and our baby when Brad isn't here is just a responsible thing to do.
"Here's the kicker though. The man behind the counter looked at me in disbelief when I pointed out the beefy Mossberg 930 Tactical weapon that Brad had researched out for me and planned on taking me out shooting to get comfortable with. The man then proceeded to interrogate me about what I wanted it for and how it would be used. He said that I didn't hold it right and that I needed 'something else better suited to you.' He put it back in the case and firmly refused to sell it—all because I am a petite young woman!
"He threatened me with the FBI and accused me of purchasing the gun for 'someone else'—namely my husband who was with me. My husband informed him that IF he was the one that would be primarily using the gun then he would have bought it himself but it was going to be mine to keep with us and practice with, so we wanted it in my name…"
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I would just go somewhere else and then mail the receipt to his boss showing him how much money his employee turned away.
I think I probably would have said “Go ahead and call the FBI - we’ll wait right here” Threaten them right back. Stand your ground.
Translation: “I am saving up to buy this gun myself. I’m going to give myself a discount because its been on display a while. I only need 2 more paychecks. And you are not going to buy it now and mess up my plans, you silly broad.”
Durn right it's fear. Who would want to be dumped in with the general population in a prison? The law doesn't distinguish between prisoners of conscience and regular prisoner.
Significantly, the lower class lacks that fear - but that's one of the reasons why they're lower class.
Herein lies the problem. Why is a Shotgun “registered” in her name? I remember growing up in the 50’s and 60’s when we were truly a Free People.
A memorable Bumper Sticker from my youth, “First Registration, Then Confiscation”.
Back when, prior to Reagan, I bought an Eastfield 12 Ga pumpgun at a gun show down in Kankakee, Il, for $70.
A stop at the factory model shop, $10 to an old toolmaker, and he clamped the barrel and receiver into the lathe and parted off the barrel at 18.75, measured from a closed bolt. He brazed the front sight back on, mostly for show.
It was in my gun case for a few years, til my stoner brother pawned it for some pot...
Was it a 916? No idea. It worked like a charm, tho, action was slick and fast. Probably since I ran 200 rounds through it. I'm a believer in the fact that, like any other machine, it's best if the machine is worn in.
(Something you might consider when you get a new toy, and your fanny is going to depend on it...)
OK, that last is just awesome.
Likewise my wife with her .357 magnum.
When you become the biggest benefactor of Free Trade with Communist China....that Communism is gonna rub off on you eventually.
WalMart needs to be called MaoMart now
This is a weak thread. Why didn’t the consumer ask for a manager when she noticed the problem employee.
Note to posters: Don’t fall for Hollywood’s fixation upon “racking the action” and scaring perps. You should have the chamber already loaded...racking for response is idiotic and a FAIL.
There is no reason why the woman couldn’t handle a shot-gun. This is a non-argument.
Bashing Walmart is pretty idiotic. If you don’t like the stores, don’t patronize.
A weak thread.
Way too much logic in this statement for me to parse.
I hate that company???
You mean the one that has over a million workers, provides goods and services at excellent prices and forces no one into it's stores at gun point?
Six graders hate companies, adults make informed choices and shop elsewhere.
Your brain has been gouged out although you might be correct about his children.
So if you had the wrong tire size in the first place, it was “store policy” to only sell you the same wrong tire size? They couldn’t lookup the correct tire size for the make and model – ask to see your owner’s manual? That’s got to be (one of) the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. What if you needed new windshield wipers? Would they only sell you the exact same ones you had even if they were the wrong size? What if you went to Wally-Mart to buy some new clothes after losing a lot of weight came in wearing pants 2 sizes too big – would they refuse to sell you pants in a size 2 smaller than what you were currently wearing?
As far as the gal trying to purchase the Mossberg, she and her husband should have gone to Cabela’s or a local independent gun store. Some years ago my husband and I were shopping for a firearm for home protection, mostly for me to use and were thinking of a shotgun, thinking that with a shot gun, I as someone who never fired a firearm before didn’t necessarily have to be a great shot and a shotgun could take down a perp pretty handily. The gun store owners, a former Baltimore cop and former MD State policeman BTW, actually recommended against a shotgun for several reasons (close proximity of my neighbor’s house mostly) and recommended a basic revolver even over a semi-automatic or automatic pistol. His reasoning was a revolver can be kept handy in the night stand and in an emergency; a revolver is unlikely to jam and would be easier for me to learn to use, handle, provided of course that I learned how to use it and spent a good time at the range to gain accuracy. But at the end of the day it was a only a “recommendation”, they would have sold us whatever we wanted to buy.
It sounds to me like she said the ‘magic words’ that indicate that it was a straw purchase. The clerk then responded by keeping himself out of prison.
Government stings look just like this. If you are purchasing a firearm as a present (perfectly legal) DO NOT tell the clerk. If you are accompanying your spouse to purchase a firearm, do not be making a lot of statements about which one to purchase.
Dealers are required to infer a straw sale and then refuse to sell.
Dealers are required to infer a straw sale and then refuse to sell.
So if I take my husband with me to purchase a firearm that I’m going to use and register in my name and I simply ask my husband a few questions or ask his opinion on what I should purchase, that makes us both criminals? Really? So am I better off going to the gun store all by myself, perhaps with a list of written questions or call him on my cell phone to ask his opinion? What if I don’t make any verbal statements but communicate with him in sign language? That to me those would all be bigger red flags.
I don't quite agree. My home-defense shotgun does not have a round chambered, although my home-defense pistol does. How you store your weapons will depend on the level of threat; the method and location of storage; and the ages, responsibility, and level of training of individuals in the home. For some families and locations, a round in the chamber makes sense. For others it does not.
As for racking a round into the chamber in the hope of scaring criminals away, I personally don't see the point. If an intruder reaches the point where a homeowner has to use a shotgun in any way, pulling the trigger is almost certainly the best answer for personal safety.
I think you may have hit on the real reason.
Local tire shop has a sign outside:
“Why buy your tires at a grocery store?”
Because there's some perverse element in my psyche that thinks it would be hysterically insulting to cap some thug with a "Hello Kitty" 9mm.
:)
[my Mossberg, however, is plain, utilitarian black and stainless steel...how boring]
That is the very reason for a weapon in the first place. Doh.
Unfortunately, a petitie woman buying a 12 ga tactical shotgun while a man is with her pointing out the exact model to buy looks to the FFL like a straw purchase.
There is no long gun registration in New Albany, Ohio, so there is no "having it in her name" involved, other than the 4473 paperwork.
The couple should have simply had the man submit to the NICS check and fill out the 4473, and everything would have been fine.
It is the ATF, not the Walmart counter salesman, to blame here.
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