Posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:42 PM PDT by TigersEye
Proof Positive - In My Opinion
True Source Found For "Innocence of Muslims." (Obama)
This is a Youtube video produced by user Montagraph who speculated that "Innocence of Muslims" was a false flag op. So did I. He has done a lot of work tracing numerous websites connected to the original uploading of the now famous video. His narrative starts out very slow but give it a chance. He does explain it all in detail and has sourced it all with URLs below his vid.
Montagraph declines to say that his evidence is definitive so you be the judge. The internet tracks end up leading right to one well known Jug-eared Marxist.
Wow....great find......is this the real answer? Annon, taking down capitalism, Ayers, Farrakhan, Obama....Beck hot on their trail......Holy shit.....does this not set off alarm bells red flags......?
If I am Israel I strike while the moon is new and under cover of darkness.....my thinking is how much worse can it really get. So the Muslims are rioting, they are pissed about a movie trailer...how much more can they get pissed off....the whole world thinks they are crazy from the coverage on TV.....I say strike now while everyone thinks they are nuts. The military in these countries could never mount an attack now they have their hands full just trying to keep domestic order.
I don’t know what to think anymore but I no longer dismiss things so easily. As chaotic as things seem since Obama, I wouldn’t be surprised by much.
It’s still Occam’s razor and this stuff gets/is getting pretty convoluted. But I don’t dismiss it as beyond the realms of possibility. It IS very curious...
The military in these countries could never mount an attack now they have their hands full just trying to keep domestic order.
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We could hope.
A distraction.
Israel strikes.
Unfortunately, that’s NOT the vibes I’m receiving from this Pres. It’s more like.....”Inflame the ME.....but inflame it, further, if Israel strikes”. Then all HELL will break loose.
If all hell breaks loose do you think the American people will stand for the destruction of Israel? Obama would be out on his @ss. He would lose the election in a landslide.....wouldn’t he? Hell maybe he/They don’t care......hummm
I really do not know enough about what revelation says about all this....I would never claim to be remotely well versed in the bible.....what I can say is I have heard that it is ok for a Muslim to lie as long as it is to further the cause...which sounds t me like the liberal mantra “the ends justify the means.
Guys....I JUST saw the FOX homeland security correspondent with a breaking story about possible ‘inside information’ from a ‘security firm’ contracted by the State Department. ‘Blue Mountain Group’ was the firm mentioned. I’ll try to look up the story.
I was just sitting folding clothes and it came on. My eyes bugged out!
This guy(on the tape) may have been on to something.
This is all I could find, so far. Who is ‘Blue Mountain Group’?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/20/us-usa-libya-security-idUSBRE88J18R20120920
Interesting.....so it is a Brit contractor......not sure I see the connection.......what are you thinking that I am not thinking......
Well, the guy in the vid said he traced the avatars back to a security contractor in Arlington, VA. From what I gathered....there are up to 10 different contractors the State Department uses.
Christian charity, ex-con linked to film on Islam
Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih of Media for Christ in Duarte and Nakoula Basseley Nakoula of Cerritos emerge as forces behind ‘Innocence of Muslims,’ the film whose trailer has incited violence across the Arab world.
September 13, 2012
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/13/local/la-me-filmmaker-20120914
“Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih got converted into Christianity from Islam few years back.”
http://www.weeklyblitz.net/2574/innocence-of-muslims-maker-neither-israeli-nor
I haven’t heard much in the news about Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih. One wonders if he really did convert and wasn’t the propagandist leading the production and dubbing.
I don’t know why the perp walk. Just watching it was embarrassing and humilating. Maybe a warning to us and a gift to the crazies, or both.
“”...to promote an Islamic takeover of the United States.””
That’s something I’ve been chewing on since our participation in the Balkans - kept putting it out of my mind for sanity sake but now I’m seeing practically the same thing happening in the ME. In the Balkans the dictator/Christian Serbs were committing genocide on the Muslims. One needs to check out what was really going on...not saying nothing happened but there’s both sides to a story and we only heard one of them via the corruptmedia. The Muslim Brotherhood, and their affiliate salafi/wahhabi assassans were also there and they ended up with an Islamic State.
“Something wicked is going on or our CIA, FBI,SS, military leadership yada that we thought were the best—really SUCK! And they have shown us and the world how weak we are with fools in charge. It is one or the other...”
Totally agreeIrenic. You make good points. These are trained operatives. I don’t believe they’re this stupid especially since the Embassy was attacked a couple of months before. Thinking outside the box, what if the US wasn’t in charge, what if they’re taking orders? Maybe from the OIC/UN? Who knows anymore...
About That Passport Again...
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/about-that-passport-again/
I think you’ll find this interesting...including the comments.
Or may have been contracted to do a ‘film’? For use later? This ‘trailer’ has been out for a while.....AND there are TONS of anti-Islamic things on YouTube. Why THIS ‘movie’ to cause such outrage?
The ‘movie’ excuse seems to have been waiting on a shelf to beused for uprising.
Used to keep Israel from attacking, maybe? The New Moon was due this weekend, BTW.
JMHO
What is your take on CNN finding Stevens journal 4 days after the attack, yet days earlier it was discovered and reported that there were missing documents of the sensitive nature? As of Sept 16 the FBI still wasn’t in Libya per the Libyan president.
There were reports of the missing documents at least by Sept 13, perhaps earlier.
And thanks for the link. This mess is so twisted it is getting difficult to sort the facts.
Could the individual taking the video of the tape we saw be a CNN cameraman? It was on that tape we both saw...remember the man at the beginning, saying in English, “bet they’re going to kill him” - then we heard shots later in the video. The people going into the building behind him as he was speaking were, imo, F17 people, his security, they were clean shaven while al Sharia are the bearded ones - no razors when Mo was around. Just a while before that, eyewitness’ saw people attack the building from three sides carrying black flags - read that in a British newspaper. Thusfar the finger is pointing at al Sharia but I think the F17 were also involved. Anyway I thought it was weird that the man spoke to the camera guy in English. The people going inside later on, looked over and saw him, and it became obvious he was a familar face. One of them appeared to be carrying a computer. At the rate of all the people activity going inside, why not CNN, they were probably inside before the MB Intel even got there. CNN were hand and glove with Saddam why not the MB and their affiliates.
It’s hard to imagine that there were only 7 pages in the diary though, assuming there was more, what happened to the rest? Personally I can’t imagine any news org., in this specific situation, not calling the State Dept first thereagain I don’t know their protocol. This looks bad on the State Dept., lack of security reenforced but we knew that already especially since they were bombed a few months prior in June, albeit there wasn’t much damage, nonetheless, the Libyan intel told them to beef up security and Mark Toner from the State Dept played it down. Why didn’t they call in the marines at that time? It’s almost like they wanted this to happen - like a set-up by people higher up the chain. Al Sharia et al are only the assassins - they take orders from above. A General Younis was also murdered by these people..apparently he trusted them as well.
Here’s the tape -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGILRWEcHo&feature=player_embedded
A different tape...at 32 there’s some spent shells...some look old but one is new...wonder if it’s American? I know nothing about rocket-propelled whatevers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDFFk00XnEw&feature=BFa&list=UUsP3Clx2qtH2mNZ6KolVoZQ
One of our Seals, Glen Doherty, told ABC he was there looking for weapons. I just hope we didn’t supply the Feb17 and al Sharia with the weapons that killed them:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/glen-doherty-navy-seal-killed-libya-intel-mission/story?id=17229037#.UFet9qRWoSM
I really don’t know what to think Irenic, just trying to think outside the box. We’ll be hearing more, so much will be disinformation, but Freepers can smell BS a mile away.
What do you think of it all?
Yes! I agree totally, a contract, and shelved for later. The words were also changed and dubbed later. Remember there was a story going around about $5mil. It cost 5m or he got 5m - can’t remember.
I posted this somewhere before - forget where and can’t find the blog site. I could put in some of the words and get it but no time at the moment...
“It was a Salifist Mullah Khaled Abdullah, (apparently from the gov. state security in the past but still cooperates), who was the first to spread the story on al-Nas, a Salifist TV Channel. Wesam Abdel Warith, president of another Salifi channel, called for the demonstration along with another Salafi sheikh, Abu Yahia, another Ali Abdullah Saleh had supporters in Yemen, and in Cairo, the jihadi Salafi were present. Nader Bakker - Salafist from the Cairo gov. al Nour party, lied, he told al Jazeera that the movie was shown on TV all over the US. And the Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Mahmoud Ghozlan, called for new protests after Friday prayers.”
There’s a Jewish library site with lots of videos that they’ve translated into English. When I get time, might pop some of those imams into the search engine. It should be fun. A full moon...I’ve been thinking that for the past week. It’s been like the twilight zone on speed. :)
I am starting to believe that the State Dept did know this was going to happen and did nothing— they let it happen. Perhaps they did dub that movie and have it ready to roll as an excuse, not sure? I do think things went way worse than they had expected. The *why* is what I can’t figure out. I don’t think it was just about arms, either.
I suppose only seven pages could be because Stevens did know that the chit was about to hit the fan and he knew that nothing was going to be done? Documentation, documentation, documentation. ???
Not sure here and 7 pages does seem fairly sparse. I think CNN would say if other pages were removed/missing, they could figure it out. I doubt the attackers would have taken the time to be very careful in removing pages—what would they care if we knew pages were missing—they destroyed the consulate and murdered people already. Well, unless it was planted—which I doubt.
I think the reason there were reports straight away that there were files missing is because we have a mole in the group that did the attacking. He would know they took papers and report it to our people.
Otherwise, who from our side would have went into the burnt-out consulate, known what files he was looking for and scrounge around enough to determine that the files were missing, yet leave the ambassadors journal?
It only makes sense if we have a mole who was carrying out the attacks alongside the other attackers and our State Dept knew this attack was going to happen and let it happen, in an attempt to gather some other information? What information, I don’t know. The mole wouldn’t have picked up a journal but he could report what files were taken.
I think our State Dept, CIA had something going and it blew up in their face. The only possibility I see for them playing such a risky game with American lives is WMD’s. I doubt Obama and Hillary would want to scream about THAT—not after what happened with Bush. They would do that on the q.t.
They also wouldn’t want word of worries over WMD’s when an election is so near and they helped in the Libya revolution. Plus, there’s that Israel problem that this administration wants NO part of.
That’s my closest guess of the *why* but I haven’t sold myself on it yet...still pondering the whole ugly, tragic mess.
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