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Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)
Youtube ^ | Sept. 20, 2012 | Montagraph

Posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:42 PM PDT by TigersEye

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Proof Positive - In My Opinion
1 posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:51 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Candor7; Hunton Peck; 2ndDivisionVet; piasa; Ernest_at_the_Beach; jazusamo; ...

Thanks to RushIsMyTeddyBear for posting a link to this in a thread.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 10:39:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: All

I know a 20 minute video is more than most want to watch, I feel the same way, but I think this really goes somewhere once he gets into the tracing he did.


3 posted on 09/20/2012 10:42:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye; onyx; Marine_Uncle
He could get arrested for threatening .....the O!

I will have to come back to this tomorrow.

4 posted on 09/20/2012 11:01:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: TigersEye

I don’t doubt it at all. If something major happens helping 0bama be a superhero just prior to the election I’ll definitely know this is what happened. This could be a ploy to stop Israel from striking Iran just because of protests over a movie (dumbass public’s perception). Discussion of the Iran nuke facility is all forgotten about now.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 11:03:09 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The previous video that he did fills in even more details. Again it's a 20 min vid but I think it's worth it. People are pulling their websites within hours of this guy's videos. He screencapped it all though.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

6 posted on 09/20/2012 11:06:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
This could be a ploy to stop Israel from striking Iran just because of protests over a movie

I first made that speculation on Sept. 12th and this post grew from that.

7 posted on 09/20/2012 11:08:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

This guys computer knowledge is way beyond me but it sounds like he is on to something very sneaky.


8 posted on 09/20/2012 11:17:58 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: TigersEye
Seems like pure Obama derangement syndrome to me. The Libs used to blame Bush for EVERYTHING and there are some out there in on the right who have caught that illness in reverse. Bush didn't plan 9/11 and Obama didn't make this film. It would be nice to think that someone was in control of everything and it was all being done according to a grand plan - nefarious or good. Because then it could be fought and eventually controlled by the “good guys” however you wish to define them. But, aside from God - who allows humans free will and therefore does not intervene in such trivial matters - there is no one out there with the power or capacity to control everything.
9 posted on 09/20/2012 11:24:32 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: fella

I don’t understand how he did what he did either but I can follow his description of the trails he followed. Right back to DHS and then Obama.


10 posted on 09/20/2012 11:26:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

You didn’t watch the video obviously. No one said Obama made the video.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 11:27:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2932600/posts

Think maybe there are really ‘talks’ to free that blind man? The timing of this ‘14 minute video’ and the demands from Egypt regarding this video seem to be making a pattern. Most especially since the administration is appearing to be ready to criminalize criticism of some religions.

12 posted on 09/20/2012 11:29:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
I think that is definitely one of the goals.

US spends $70,000 on Pakistan ad denouncing anti-Muslim film (Obama's apology tour continues)

13 posted on 09/20/2012 11:35:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

Wouldn’t that mean they suck if they didn’t cover their tails better than this?

I don’t know...he seemed thorough but I have a hard time buying it but I have a hard time blowing it off, too.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 11:38:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: TigersEye
Obama keeps beating that ‘14 minute video’ drum. Might call it a call to arms. But the birth of demonstrations took place in Cairo alone and did not spread until this administration began an advertising campaign. Now I am suspecting this whole simmering pot leads back to it being credible there are indeed talks to free that blind man.
15 posted on 09/20/2012 11:38:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Irenic

Hasn’t it been Amateur Hour all along? How about that lfbc?


16 posted on 09/20/2012 11:43:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; TigersEye

It isn’t that the WH necessarily made the video, it’s that they weaponized it, pushed it out there in such a way as to be able to plausibly argue it was the trigger for the protest violence and the more general rise of disorder. False flag operations are not new and they do not require divine omnipotence or omniscience to carry out. They only require motive, means, and opportunity, all of which this administration has, in abundance.

These are real Communists we’re dealing with. Yes they are too. I’m from Chicago. South side connections. Trust me. This is hardball. They are playing for keeps. They are willing to hurt people to get and keep power. Our great temptation is the normalcy bias. We don’t want something this bad to be happening. It can’t be happening here. Etc. Of course it all might be an unlucky set of coincidences, with a perfectly logical explanation for why Stanley Inc might be connected to the Innocence of Muslims video. But impossibility is one assumption I would not be making at this point.


17 posted on 09/20/2012 11:53:17 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: TigersEye

Very nice find.....I agree the guy knows his stuff but it doesn’t come to a keep it simple stupid ending....what is the end game? So what if a bomb goes off and we can point the finger at Iran or some middleastern concern.....how does that help or hurt Obama and the spooks? I need time to think this through......


18 posted on 09/20/2012 11:56:37 PM PDT by superfries
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To: TigersEye

Hmmm

Sam Bacile = Islam CABE

CABE stands for “corrective action(s) being effected” and is a term used by the FDA (Federal Drug Administration).


19 posted on 09/21/2012 12:09:29 AM PDT by TXDeb
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To: superfries

I think 0bama has two goals in it. One is to create a Muslim super-state, ie a Muslim Caliphate, destroying western influence in the ME and other Muslim regions. The second is to push the U.S. further into decline in order to force and cajole Americans into accepting his dream of a Marxist socialist society.


20 posted on 09/21/2012 12:10:22 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Springfield Reformer
It isn’t that the WH necessarily made the video, it’s that they weaponized it, pushed it out there in such a way as to be able to plausibly argue it was the trigger for the protest violence and the more general rise of disorder.

Exactly. All Montagraph has done is ask why the film changed names four times and who made the final change to Innocence of Muslims. He establishes a timeline which is suspicious and he traces the web footprints of those connected in some way to the uploading of the "final cut" and they lead to the DHS and Obama.

21 posted on 09/21/2012 12:14:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TXDeb

Very interesting.


22 posted on 09/21/2012 12:15:26 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

Yes, Thank you! That’s where I picked it up.
Watched 2 segments. Absolutely fascinating. Don’t necessarily agree with his end game theory, but the “honey pot” was set for a reason.


23 posted on 09/21/2012 12:23:19 AM PDT by IwaCornDogs ("There Will Be Bamboozeling" ~ Nobama 08')
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To: TigersEye
I think 0bama has two goals in it. One is to create a Muslim super-state, ie a Muslim Caliphate, destroying western influence in the ME and other Muslim regions. The second is to push the U.S. further into decline in order to force and cajole Americans into accepting his dream of a Marxist socialist society.

I think you are giving him way too much credit. The Obama without a programmed teleprompter is a street punk. His goal is to be loved, golf, eat the finest grub, and keep AirForceOne parked in his garage while he redistributes this nation's wealth. Now that is not to say those that program his teleprompter do not have ambitions of reordering this earth.

24 posted on 09/21/2012 12:30:31 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: IwaCornDogs

What do you think of his tracking efforts? I’m not tech savvy enough to know how he did it or what those connections really mean.


25 posted on 09/21/2012 12:31:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Just mythoughts

You’re dismissing all those years he spent studying and bull-sessioning on Marxism and his years with ACORN and other orgs leading and lecturing them on tactics and strategies awfully lightly.


26 posted on 09/21/2012 12:34:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

ferlater


27 posted on 09/21/2012 12:36:03 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: TigersEye

Yes it has and it almost seems that our government has been set up to look like fools and paper tigers.

The Secret Service has had its fair share of crud, the dinner where that woman and her husband got in. The prostitutes...heck, I can’t keep up with it all.

That questions and doubts about Obama’s birth certificate—there should be no doubts about who we elect president, but there are.

Now we have this tragedy in Benghazi, the leaks about Osama and them helping a movie to be made about it. The leaks about the virus to Iran.

There are too many flub-ups for it to be happenstance. Our government looks foolish.

I sincerely think all of this is about to jump up and bite us and it has been sitting under our noses the whole time. Like the American people have had a *kick me* sign stuck to their back—everybody knows and everybody is laughing.

Why else did Obama and Hillary feel the need to repeat—American’s hold their heads up. Of course, what did we have to be ashamed about with Benghazi? Why did they repeat that several times?

Something wicked is going on or our CIA, FBI,SS, military leadership yada that we thought were the best—really SUCK! And they have shown us and the world how weak we are with fools in charge. It is one or the other...


28 posted on 09/21/2012 12:36:03 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
Why else did Obama and Hillary feel the need to repeat—American’s hold their heads up.

I hadn't heard that one. I keep wondering why Hillbilly and Ricecakes pointedly and repeatedly said "our government had nothing to do with it." (the video) No one would have thought that they did. Not us and not the muzzies. Except they keep denying it and keep making a farcical point about the video causing the riots. Now we know there were no protests at all in Benghazi.

29 posted on 09/21/2012 12:48:21 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

I didn’t get that it led to DHS and Obama out of i9t.
What I got is Stanley Inc is a contractor out of Arlington, VA that had 2 employees busted for accessing Obama’s passport info.....and that they have customers in several branches of the military.

Did he ever say what Stanley Inc does for the military?

BTW...this guy Montagraph is a cyber spook or at least trained int he ways.


30 posted on 09/21/2012 12:52:29 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries
Did he ever say what Stanley Inc does for the military?

I don't think so.

31 posted on 09/21/2012 1:02:06 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Irenic; TigersEye; Swirl; Just mythoughts; IwaCornDogs; TXDeb; Springfield Reformer; ...

Hey first off I watched both the videos and I was fascinated just like most of us were....I asked a few questions and then I turned the tables and decided before I spoke to a few of my buddies about this that I would check out Montagraph....the guy who made the videos.

What I found was disturbing.....now I am not saying he is a loon or a liar but he has done some looney stuff in his past.

Of course I found this after I had set up Google alerts for damn near everything he mentioned in his two videos.....lol

Check it out for yourselves and if you think he is still credible...that is your call....just wanted you to be aware of what I found on him........https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Montagraph


32 posted on 09/21/2012 1:04:53 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries
What I got is Stanley Inc is a contractor out of Arlington, VA that had 2 employees busted for accessing Obama’s passport info...

I didn't hear him say anything about that. He traced NewsPoliticsNow and NewsPoliticsLeaks to Stanley Inc. That was the connection he made.

33 posted on 09/21/2012 1:09:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: superfries

I’m more interested in whether his info is credible not him personally. Do the connections he makes check out?


34 posted on 09/21/2012 1:11:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

no he did say it....I watched both videos and he had to say it in one or the other....I couldn’t just make it up.....did you watch both videos?


35 posted on 09/21/2012 1:12:56 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

That’s some pretty crazy stuff. So, who is encyclopediadramatica and what’s their credibility?


36 posted on 09/21/2012 1:15:10 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: superfries

Yes, I watched both videos and I don’t recall him saying anything about 2 contractors accessing 0bama’s passport info. Not saying he didn’t say it. But I remember hearing about that months/years ago on FR.


37 posted on 09/21/2012 1:17:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7os9D-EsFmM&feature=player_embedded
at the 14:50 mark


38 posted on 09/21/2012 1:20:03 AM PDT by superfries
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To: TigersEye

Oh he’s definitely knowledgeable enough, but just as much as many of the regular folks over at Websleuths that can track a missing person and attain “electronic footprints” finding details of a case much the way that an internet detective does. I think he’s got some paid for programs on his computer that allow him access to ISP’s and personal background info, and he must have one heck of a virus protection program as he seems not to fear “clicking away” (lol).

I found his method legit, and again, fascinating.


39 posted on 09/21/2012 1:20:17 AM PDT by IwaCornDogs ("There Will Be Bamboozeling" ~ Nobama 08')
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To: TigersEye

no idea what their cred is but they have his videos saved on that page and if you watch them....it is him......the one showing him eating what appears to be excrement and the one where he is trying to set up a pay pal acct to charge folks to watch porn by the frame.......like I said...it doesn’t make what he is saying untrue but I thought we needed to be aware of the source.


40 posted on 09/21/2012 1:23:55 AM PDT by superfries
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To: IwaCornDogs

anyone can ping and ISP and you can get that ISP from the whois site or waybackmachine...heck you can ping your own ISP right over at speedtest....or from the dos command prompt on your own computer right?


41 posted on 09/21/2012 1:26:48 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

Yep, you’re right, he did read that from some news story about Stanley Inc. Not really too relevant to the connection he made between NewsPoliticsNow and NewsPoliticsLeaks to Stanley Inc. Except to say that Stanley Inc. was willing to boot two employees that tried to find dirt on 0bama.


42 posted on 09/21/2012 1:28:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: IwaCornDogs

When he talks about meta data on the Avatar....he is just looking at the source code which you can get by right clicking on any pic or webpage.....I think.


43 posted on 09/21/2012 1:29:01 AM PDT by superfries
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To: TigersEye

he read it from the cached copy he saved of Stanley Inc’s Wikipedia page that has since been deleted.


44 posted on 09/21/2012 1:30:42 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries
It was deleted from one URL but you can see it here. I found it.

Stanley, Inc. Not seeing any point you're making.

45 posted on 09/21/2012 1:33:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: superfries

Internet tough guy
Unwarranted self-importance
Batshit insane
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Victim Complex

“the second most mentally challenged conspiracy theorist online”

Okay, that would be just my luck to actually find what he’s saying interesting. LMAO. Thanks!


46 posted on 09/21/2012 1:37:01 AM PDT by IwaCornDogs ("There Will Be Bamboozeling" ~ Nobama 08')
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To: TigersEye

the connection between NewsPoliticsNow and Stanley Inc is that the google image search he did of NewsPoliticsNow’s Avatar led him to Stanley Inc.

See the 12:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7os9D-EsFmM&feature=player_embedded


47 posted on 09/21/2012 1:40:08 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

Yep. And your point is?


48 posted on 09/21/2012 1:42:54 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

no point just answering your previous question and mine about Stanley Inc.


49 posted on 09/21/2012 1:43:44 AM PDT by superfries
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To: TigersEye

was answering your post # 33.

What I got is Stanley Inc is a contractor out of Arlington, VA that had 2 employees busted for accessing Obama’s passport info...

I didn’t hear him say anything about that. He traced NewsPoliticsNow and NewsPoliticsLeaks to Stanley Inc. That was the connection he made.
33 posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 3:09:49 AM by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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50 posted on 09/21/2012 1:46:05 AM PDT by superfries
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