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Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)
Youtube ^ | Sept. 20, 2012 | Montagraph

Posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:42 PM PDT by TigersEye

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To: Irenic

Wow....great find......is this the real answer? Annon, taking down capitalism, Ayers, Farrakhan, Obama....Beck hot on their trail......Holy shit.....does this not set off alarm bells red flags......?


101 posted on 09/21/2012 9:35:58 PM PDT by superfries
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If I am Israel I strike while the moon is new and under cover of darkness.....my thinking is how much worse can it really get. So the Muslims are rioting, they are pissed about a movie trailer...how much more can they get pissed off....the whole world thinks they are crazy from the coverage on TV.....I say strike now while everyone thinks they are nuts. The military in these countries could never mount an attack now they have their hands full just trying to keep domestic order.


102 posted on 09/21/2012 9:42:05 PM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

I don’t know what to think anymore but I no longer dismiss things so easily. As chaotic as things seem since Obama, I wouldn’t be surprised by much.

It’s still Occam’s razor and this stuff gets/is getting pretty convoluted. But I don’t dismiss it as beyond the realms of possibility. It IS very curious...


103 posted on 09/21/2012 9:47:32 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: superfries

The military in these countries could never mount an attack now they have their hands full just trying to keep domestic order.
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We could hope.

A distraction.

Israel strikes.

Unfortunately, that’s NOT the vibes I’m receiving from this Pres. It’s more like.....”Inflame the ME.....but inflame it, further, if Israel strikes”. Then all HELL will break loose.


104 posted on 09/21/2012 9:48:22 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If all hell breaks loose do you think the American people will stand for the destruction of Israel? Obama would be out on his @ss. He would lose the election in a landslide.....wouldn’t he? Hell maybe he/They don’t care......hummm


105 posted on 09/21/2012 9:51:59 PM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries
What do you think about below?

Will the Antichrist practice "taquia"???
106 posted on 09/21/2012 9:54:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

I really do not know enough about what revelation says about all this....I would never claim to be remotely well versed in the bible.....what I can say is I have heard that it is ok for a Muslim to lie as long as it is to further the cause...which sounds t me like the liberal mantra “the ends justify the means.


107 posted on 09/21/2012 10:51:27 PM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries; All

Guys....I JUST saw the FOX homeland security correspondent with a breaking story about possible ‘inside information’ from a ‘security firm’ contracted by the State Department. ‘Blue Mountain Group’ was the firm mentioned. I’ll try to look up the story.

I was just sitting folding clothes and it came on. My eyes bugged out!

This guy(on the tape) may have been on to something.


108 posted on 09/22/2012 9:26:41 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: superfries

This is all I could find, so far. Who is ‘Blue Mountain Group’?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/20/us-usa-libya-security-idUSBRE88J18R20120920


109 posted on 09/22/2012 9:32:40 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Found this, too:

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012/09/wounded-libyan-consulate-guard-hired-by-brits-8-firms-approved-for-worldwide-security-uk-blue-mountain-not-one-of-the-8/


110 posted on 09/22/2012 9:37:15 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Interesting.....so it is a Brit contractor......not sure I see the connection.......what are you thinking that I am not thinking......


111 posted on 09/22/2012 9:41:34 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

Well, the guy in the vid said he traced the avatars back to a security contractor in Arlington, VA. From what I gathered....there are up to 10 different contractors the State Department uses.


112 posted on 09/22/2012 3:36:51 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Christian charity, ex-con linked to film on Islam
Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih of Media for Christ in Duarte and Nakoula Basseley Nakoula of Cerritos emerge as forces behind ‘Innocence of Muslims,’ the film whose trailer has incited violence across the Arab world.
September 13, 2012
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/13/local/la-me-filmmaker-20120914

“Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih got converted into Christianity from Islam few years back.”
http://www.weeklyblitz.net/2574/innocence-of-muslims-maker-neither-israeli-nor

I haven’t heard much in the news about Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih. One wonders if he really did convert and wasn’t the propagandist leading the production and dubbing.

I don’t know why the perp walk. Just watching it was embarrassing and humilating. Maybe a warning to us and a gift to the crazies, or both.


113 posted on 09/22/2012 5:20:27 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Irenic

“”...to promote an Islamic takeover of the United States.””

That’s something I’ve been chewing on since our participation in the Balkans - kept putting it out of my mind for sanity sake but now I’m seeing practically the same thing happening in the ME. In the Balkans the dictator/Christian Serbs were committing genocide on the Muslims. One needs to check out what was really going on...not saying nothing happened but there’s both sides to a story and we only heard one of them via the corruptmedia. The Muslim Brotherhood, and their affiliate salafi/wahhabi assassans were also there and they ended up with an Islamic State.


114 posted on 09/22/2012 5:30:33 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Irenic

“Something wicked is going on or our CIA, FBI,SS, military leadership yada that we thought were the best—really SUCK! And they have shown us and the world how weak we are with fools in charge. It is one or the other...”

Totally agreeIrenic. You make good points. These are trained operatives. I don’t believe they’re this stupid especially since the Embassy was attacked a couple of months before. Thinking outside the box, what if the US wasn’t in charge, what if they’re taking orders? Maybe from the OIC/UN? Who knows anymore...

About That Passport Again...
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/about-that-passport-again/

I think you’ll find this interesting...including the comments.


115 posted on 09/22/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

Or may have been contracted to do a ‘film’? For use later? This ‘trailer’ has been out for a while.....AND there are TONS of anti-Islamic things on YouTube. Why THIS ‘movie’ to cause such outrage?

The ‘movie’ excuse seems to have been waiting on a shelf to beused for uprising.

Used to keep Israel from attacking, maybe? The New Moon was due this weekend, BTW.

JMHO


116 posted on 09/22/2012 7:13:14 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: bronxville

What is your take on CNN finding Stevens journal 4 days after the attack, yet days earlier it was discovered and reported that there were missing documents of the sensitive nature? As of Sept 16 the FBI still wasn’t in Libya per the Libyan president.

There were reports of the missing documents at least by Sept 13, perhaps earlier.

And thanks for the link. This mess is so twisted it is getting difficult to sort the facts.


117 posted on 09/22/2012 8:09:52 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

Could the individual taking the video of the tape we saw be a CNN cameraman? It was on that tape we both saw...remember the man at the beginning, saying in English, “bet they’re going to kill him” - then we heard shots later in the video. The people going into the building behind him as he was speaking were, imo, F17 people, his security, they were clean shaven while al Sharia are the bearded ones - no razors when Mo was around. Just a while before that, eyewitness’ saw people attack the building from three sides carrying black flags - read that in a British newspaper. Thusfar the finger is pointing at al Sharia but I think the F17 were also involved. Anyway I thought it was weird that the man spoke to the camera guy in English. The people going inside later on, looked over and saw him, and it became obvious he was a familar face. One of them appeared to be carrying a computer. At the rate of all the people activity going inside, why not CNN, they were probably inside before the MB Intel even got there. CNN were hand and glove with Saddam why not the MB and their affiliates.

It’s hard to imagine that there were only 7 pages in the diary though, assuming there was more, what happened to the rest? Personally I can’t imagine any news org., in this specific situation, not calling the State Dept first thereagain I don’t know their protocol. This looks bad on the State Dept., lack of security reenforced but we knew that already especially since they were bombed a few months prior in June, albeit there wasn’t much damage, nonetheless, the Libyan intel told them to beef up security and Mark Toner from the State Dept played it down. Why didn’t they call in the marines at that time? It’s almost like they wanted this to happen - like a set-up by people higher up the chain. Al Sharia et al are only the assassins - they take orders from above. A General Younis was also murdered by these people..apparently he trusted them as well.

Here’s the tape -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGILRWEcHo&feature=player_embedded

A different tape...at 32 there’s some spent shells...some look old but one is new...wonder if it’s American? I know nothing about rocket-propelled whatevers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDFFk00XnEw&feature=BFa&list=UUsP3Clx2qtH2mNZ6KolVoZQ

One of our Seals, Glen Doherty, told ABC he was there looking for weapons. I just hope we didn’t supply the Feb17 and al Sharia with the weapons that killed them:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/glen-doherty-navy-seal-killed-libya-intel-mission/story?id=17229037#.UFet9qRWoSM

I really don’t know what to think Irenic, just trying to think outside the box. We’ll be hearing more, so much will be disinformation, but Freepers can smell BS a mile away.

What do you think of it all?


118 posted on 09/22/2012 11:36:25 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yes! I agree totally, a contract, and shelved for later. The words were also changed and dubbed later. Remember there was a story going around about $5mil. It cost 5m or he got 5m - can’t remember.

I posted this somewhere before - forget where and can’t find the blog site. I could put in some of the words and get it but no time at the moment...

“It was a Salifist Mullah Khaled Abdullah, (apparently from the gov. state security in the past but still cooperates), who was the first to spread the story on al-Nas, a Salifist TV Channel. Wesam Abdel Warith, president of another Salifi channel, called for the demonstration along with another Salafi sheikh, Abu Yahia, another Ali Abdullah Saleh had supporters in Yemen, and in Cairo, the jihadi Salafi were present. Nader Bakker - Salafist from the Cairo gov. al Nour party, lied, he told al Jazeera that the movie was shown on TV all over the US. And the Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Mahmoud Ghozlan, called for new protests after Friday prayers.”

There’s a Jewish library site with lots of videos that they’ve translated into English. When I get time, might pop some of those imams into the search engine. It should be fun. A full moon...I’ve been thinking that for the past week. It’s been like the twilight zone on speed. :)


119 posted on 09/22/2012 11:51:06 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

I am starting to believe that the State Dept did know this was going to happen and did nothing— they let it happen. Perhaps they did dub that movie and have it ready to roll as an excuse, not sure? I do think things went way worse than they had expected. The *why* is what I can’t figure out. I don’t think it was just about arms, either.

I suppose only seven pages could be because Stevens did know that the chit was about to hit the fan and he knew that nothing was going to be done? Documentation, documentation, documentation. ???

Not sure here and 7 pages does seem fairly sparse. I think CNN would say if other pages were removed/missing, they could figure it out. I doubt the attackers would have taken the time to be very careful in removing pages—what would they care if we knew pages were missing—they destroyed the consulate and murdered people already. Well, unless it was planted—which I doubt.

I think the reason there were reports straight away that there were files missing is because we have a mole in the group that did the attacking. He would know they took papers and report it to our people.

Otherwise, who from our side would have went into the burnt-out consulate, known what files he was looking for and scrounge around enough to determine that the files were missing, yet leave the ambassadors journal?

It only makes sense if we have a mole who was carrying out the attacks alongside the other attackers and our State Dept knew this attack was going to happen and let it happen, in an attempt to gather some other information? What information, I don’t know. The mole wouldn’t have picked up a journal but he could report what files were taken.

I think our State Dept, CIA had something going and it blew up in their face. The only possibility I see for them playing such a risky game with American lives is WMD’s. I doubt Obama and Hillary would want to scream about THAT—not after what happened with Bush. They would do that on the q.t.

They also wouldn’t want word of worries over WMD’s when an election is so near and they helped in the Libya revolution. Plus, there’s that Israel problem that this administration wants NO part of.

That’s my closest guess of the *why* but I haven’t sold myself on it yet...still pondering the whole ugly, tragic mess.


120 posted on 09/23/2012 12:44:36 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: bronxville

Let me know what you find out.....because this whole thing with the ‘movie’ stinks to high heaven.


121 posted on 09/23/2012 7:43:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Irenic

And, if you notice, there were ‘uprisings’ against the ‘insurgents’ (terrorists) over the weekend apparently orchestrated by the head of Libya.

WTH? Where they PAYED?


122 posted on 09/23/2012 7:45:41 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Irenic

You make excellent points. I’m still letting it soak in...Bottomline: I harp on about it but my gut tells me that this whole thing is about the UN Resolution 16/18. How much easier for them to implement Sharia, not only over there, but also here.

A new thread on the diary:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2935338/posts

I typed Feb17 into google as I had seen something else named like that (forget what), and wanted to see if there were others, there was, one of the top results was the May 19 Communist Organization, clicked it, turns out it’s the Weather Underground coalition. Apparently they call(ed) themselves the May 19th Coalition, or, M19CO - “name was derived from the birthdays of Ho Chi Minh and Malcolm X”.

On a brief scan of the wiki page the name Odinga popped out - havn’t gone further for a linkage to his African family but it’s too much of a coincidence. I haven’t gone further, sure many others found the same thing, will be interesting to read about it on the net.

Wiki - Weather Underground and Black Panthers:-

This alliance between the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army had three objectives:

1. Free political prisoners in US prisons
2. Appropriate capitalist wealth (armed robberies) to fund the third stage, and
3. Initiate a series of bombings and terrorist attacks [4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_19th_Communist_Organization

No wonder Holder wouldn’t arrest those thugs at the voting booth.


123 posted on 09/23/2012 7:58:22 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I don’t know. I’ve been reading many websites and have watched a bunch of youtubes of the Libyan people and their revolution.

Many seem to genuinely want peace and freedom and many are highly educated.

There are articles and such of them complaining about these militias before this happened on Set 11.

They are complaining about crooks, and suppression with militias running around like the mob. Tribes fighting.

Some say it is no better than when Gaddafi was ruling. And at least then there wasn’t the chaos with Gaddafi.

I somewhat blame us for getting in the middle of it, we armed many of the thugs. I hope the good Libyan people can find the peace and freedom they desire BUT without our help.


124 posted on 09/23/2012 7:58:37 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I’ll let you know Rush for sure. I’m kinda fixated on this Feb17 Revolutionary name. When I first saw it, it rang bells, it bothered me. And knowing Communists are overboard on their names and coding which they like to chuckle about, knew it meant something.

The major reason I got into any of this Arab Spring stuff was because it was Commie-Obama and because it reminded me of the Balkans...Yugoslavia.

I just discovered that on Febuary 17, 2008: Kosovo was made an independent Islamic State.

Obama is copying a set pattern which began in Kosovo against the Serbs, labeling them terrorists and genocists against Muslims, as an excuse for war - not saying they were angels but they were up against Wahabbi/Salafists just like Egypt, Tunisia, Libya etc. We didn’t have our newmedia hence Clinton/Balkans and the CommieMedia got away with it. It was a Soros/Jeffrey Sachs - Columbia Uni professor experiment. They led the UN/NGO’s and took care of the money - NATO was headed by Gen Clark. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/jihadists-on-the-rise-in-balkans-oh-osama-annihilate-the-american-army-oh-osama-raise-the-muslims-honor.html?cid=6a00d8341c60bf53ef0134877f6fd9970c

Yugoslavia the gateway to Western Europe. Thousands of Christians died over the centuries holding back the barbarians. Currently these Wahabbi/Salafi Jihadists are training in Kosovo, then heading to Serbia (they were/are in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria...) and now Serbia. NATO is currently bombing Serbia. Germany has about 5,000 of these destructive assassins within their walls. The gates are open. We have a secretary of state whose a Clinton - who are they working for...not us!

Not what you were looking for but I felt a need to write it but I will notify you if I find out anything about the movie but they’re essentially shut down any contact with the Copt. I still feel it was the mullahs. :)

It was Salifist Mullah Khaled Abdullah, (apparently from the previoius gov. state security but still cooperates), was the first to spread the story on al-Nas, a Wahabbi/Salifi TV Channel. Wesam Abdel Warith, president of another Salifi channel, called for the demonstration on his channel, along with another Salafi sheikh - Abu Yahia, another Ali Abdullah Saleh called his supporters in Yemen, and Cairo.

Nader Bakker - Salafist from the Cairo gov. al Nour party, and partnered with Morsi, told al Jazeera that the movie was shown on TV all over the US. The Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Mahmoud Ghozlan, called for new protests after Friday prayers. It was a set-up but for what...a clamp down on free speech - period. They get that and they have total control. Obama and Clinton support the UN Resolution on it.


125 posted on 09/23/2012 9:32:10 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Rush, have you seen the 2016 movie - it was removed from FR before so I emailed it to a couple of people. I’ll buy the DVD when it comes out. My local movie theatre wouldn’t get it:
http://vinienco.com/2012/09/22/full-movie-2016-obamas-america-updated-link/


126 posted on 09/23/2012 10:02:24 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: TigersEye

bttt


127 posted on 09/24/2012 1:47:04 AM PDT by Brads Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: TigersEye

I think another interesting twist is tracing it back to a sub contractor that works a DHS that already has dirty hands against Obama.

Gives Obama an out if this blows up in Obama’s face to say, see I did not have nothing to do with this, these people were against me all along. They did this to make me look bad. They already tried to trace my passport.

Really appreciate you posting this. This whole fiasco has spelled from the start.


128 posted on 09/24/2012 2:05:37 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: bronxville

Thanks! Good info!

Also....Glenn Beck has “The Project” coming out on The Blaze on W/TH nights. I did a little search and found this from 2006.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readarticle.aspx?artid=4476


129 posted on 09/24/2012 7:17:16 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Thank you for the link Rush. Can’t get Glenn unfortunately.

A good summary re-revising history:
http://www.politicalislam.com/pages/bio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

Note: Soros, Jeffrey Sachs from Columbia University, the UN/NGO’s/CIA/Safafists were all involved in the Balkans. Islam screamed genocide - Islam is the greatest liar and deceiver on this earth bar none.


130 posted on 09/24/2012 10:52:24 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville; TigersEye

Stevens had recently returned to Libya after being in Germany? We have our AFRICOM in Germany and shortly before Gaddafi was killed Obama sent troops into Africa.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/14/world/africa/africa-obama-troops/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Interesting— this is another questionable film that started to fall apart under scrutiny but not before many started to clamor for the US gov’t to do something.
Kony 2012: what’s the real story?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-what-s-the-story

Less than two weeks after the video’s smashing success, Invisible Children is facing the prospect of carrying on without Russell - at least for a while.

He was briefly detained by police and hospitalised after witnesses saw him running through streets in his underwear, screaming and banging his fists on the pavement.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/kony-campaigners-wife-explains-irrational-acts-20120318-1vcwu.html


131 posted on 09/25/2012 12:32:06 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

oops *Obama sent troops into Africa* Uganda Africa, not Libya Africa.


132 posted on 09/25/2012 12:34:52 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

“Stevens had recently returned to Libya after being in Germany? We have our AFRICOM in Germany and shortly before Gaddafi was killed Obama sent troops into Africa.”

Great pickup Irenic. IMO, Stevens was CIA, how about you? I’ve noticed most of the CIA are “humanitarians” - like the people they sent into the Balkans post-bombing. Agree, it looks like the movie was to deflect, especially since Korn hasn’t been seen in years, even believed dead. Just like bin Laden. This video made Korn into something more evil than Mao, Hitler, Stalin et al. Yes, he was brutal, no doubt, the numbers though have been exaggerated, but who can argue with Soro’s Human Rights Watch! T-Shirts with Korn2012 very catchy-familiar to progressives.

I believe the numbers were hyped when it was first distributed onto Vimeo per the Guardian assuming that meant prior to youtube. The media also gave it plenty of free advertisment. Vimeo is owned by billionaire Barry Diller who practically owns most of the media. Julius Genachowski, chair of the FCC, was Diller’s lawyer at USA Broadcasting, and CBO at IAC/InterActiveCorp. Remember he tried to pass “net neutrality” a couple of years ago. Warren Buffet, Diller,...are board directors - Washington Post.

The other reason and need for a movie was perhaps to deflect from their meetings, and talks about oil w/ al Bashier, (a killer more in line with Mao et al), and the S Sudanese. The Juban negotiators were upset because the US/UK were preference towards al Bashier and had to pay $3b to the Bashier government for blocking al Bashier’s ransom over the pipeline. Sickening that the evil get rewarded. Obama has called for human aid, “humanitarian” help for Sudan, they had no choice but to accept thus the door is now open for the robbers. They did something like that to Sierra Leone a while back...the robber barons wanted their copper...they threatened them with no free trade. They’re still in the Philipines, once in the door they never leave, Agenda 21 keeps them busy, and of course, they’ve always been here. One can see why they don’t want us to drill for oil. Well they’ve drained our money for their global and domestic missions, won’t be long until some of us become redundant. We now have Sharia financial compliance aka microfinance, speech next, then guns, they will be in full control. Fr Malachy Martin (RIP) once said - there will be no place to hide.

Syria - accused of massive rapes permitted by the government...

Why Syria? Pipeline Wars!
http://twitter.com/adamcurry/statuses/176043737674301440

I like this link...older site but imo, accurate:
http://www.green-agenda.com/greenweb.html

Crisis Group: THOMAS R PICKERING, Louise Arbour, George Soros, Kofi Annan, Samuel Berger, Wesley Clark, Mohamed El Baradei, HRH Prince Turki al-Faisal, Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, ....
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board/crisis-group-senior-advisers.aspx
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx

Most of those were active in Kosovo. Clark was NATO commander.

Note: THOMAS PICKERING is the guy Hillary has asked to look into the Libyan murders!

Wrote more than intended per usual. What do you think?


133 posted on 09/25/2012 9:29:17 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Irenic

Independent Libyan Fact-Finding Mission
Fri, Jan 27, 2012

...Unfortunately, investigators used dubious sources, calling his authority “one man rule.” They include the International Criminal Court (ICC) and International Crisis Group (ICG). Neither functions independently. (Soros, Pickering etc)

“He opted out of AFRICOM’s imperial regional plan. He wanted Libyans to control their own resources and use revenues domestically for all Libyans. His Central Bank of Libya was state owned. It created its own money interest-free for economic growth, not speculation and wealth for predatory bankers.
http://orientalreview.org/2012/01/27/independent-libyan-fact-finding-mission/

This is obviously a very pro-Ghaddafi article but couldn’t help but notice and perhaps agree with the major reason he was ousted...he wasn’t into their AFRICOM plan. Do you know what it is...? Save me looking it up. What they did in Bosnia has always bothered me which is why I’m looking for answers this time around. The ICG and ICC always work together. Mark Malloch Brown started the ICG, he’s been a close associate of Soros for years. Thomas Pickering chairs the ICG. Mark Malloc Brown had an interesting fallout with Rush, Fox, Bolton...


134 posted on 09/26/2012 7:41:50 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

I haven’t dug into them much— I had found it interesting that there was a AFRICOM in Germany, I did not know this and did not know of them at all. Stevens had recently been in Germany and with Libya being in Africa— a AFRICOM visit seemed a possibility.

AFRICOM works with USAID a bit. USAID was very recently booted out of Russia, it appears to have been a pretty sudden thing and it was shortly after the murder of the ambassador.

Russia seems to think USAID is a spy type front for the CIA or some such. I don’t know but I do know that USAID are into winning the hearts and minds of the people that they help. Sounds like a PR shop that hands out goodies to me. I suppose that would be an excellent place to have spies or whatever. Who knows...

AFRICOM works with USAID on pandemic junk. They work on military relations with Africa, help with political stability, counter terrorism and the less advertised— protecting access to natural resources. They are a “geographic combat command”.

I suspect AFRICOM is very strongly connected with CIA, spying and all that junk. ??? I don’t know, just guessin’ around.


135 posted on 09/26/2012 8:37:34 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: bronxville

I guess the avenue I’m going down is that Stevens visited Germany, Austria and Sweden.

I am thinking Stevens was trying to meet with or get information and more names of the scientists that worked for Gaddafi’s WMD program.

h ttp://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/09/ap-us-attempts-to-keep-tabs-on-libyan-scientists-091511/

***The U.S. has sought to keep track of Libya’s unconventional weapons experts during the civil war, the State Department official said, and has found no direct evidence that any were recruited to work in illicit weapons programs.

In the past few days a few Libyan WMD scientists, including bioweapons experts, have re-established contact with U.S. officials. Meanwhile, the official said, Washington has worked with U.S. scientists at nongovernment groups and national laboratories to draft a list of key Libyan researchers who need to be located.***

With all the oil resources in Libya, and quickly sending troops into Uganda (has been discovered to be VERY oil rich) right before Gadadfi was killed, any curiosity/anger over Uganda would be forgotten/lost in the excitement of a free Libya and a dead Gaddafi.

I think that might explain the list of names and oil contracts that went missing from the consulate. We had nobody there to discover missing files, plus, Stevens journal was found four days later. Why get that information out in the news so quickly? How did they know those files were missing?

Maybe they got the news of missing files out quickly so that people (scientists?) could hide and perhaps others could destroy connecting evidence (oil contracts?)

I also toy with the idea that the Kuny2012 video was a cloaked attempt to get into Uganda without a fuss and to actually have support from people the world over. It failed, it was found to be a fake—just like the fake video before the consulate attack.

I see a bunch of agendas here and I think that they made a HUGE mess of things. It didn’t all work as beautifully as they had planned it all.


136 posted on 09/26/2012 9:04:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mysterious-fatal-crash-provides-rare-glimpse-of-us-commandos-in-mali/2012/07/08/gJQAGO71WW_story.html

Mysterious fatal crash offers rare look at U.S. commando presence in Mali

In many countries, including most in Africa, Special Operations forces work openly to distribute humanitarian aid and train local militaries. At times, the civil-affairs assignments can provide credible cover for clandestine counterterrorism units.

But in Mali, U.S. military personnel had ceased all training and civil-affairs work by the end of March, about a week after the country’s democratically elected president was overthrown in a military coup.


137 posted on 09/26/2012 10:32:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

Thank you. Lots of creative thinking. :)

I think what you said here is key...

“In the past few days a few Libyan WMD scientists, including bioweapons experts, have re-established contact with U.S. officials. Meanwhile, the official said, Washington has worked with U.S. SCIENTISTS at NONGOVERNMENT GROUPS and NATIONAL LABORATORIES to draft a list of KEY LIBYAN RESEARCHERS who NEED to be located.”

My emphasis. I think they belong to the UN group as described below - it would mean Obama totally failed with his “new roadmap” - see 2nd snippet below. I’ve been checking out Thomas Pickering, the individual Hillary selected to head up her investigation team, whatevers going on...he’s involved. The people involved in the Balkans were the International Crisis Group (ICG) - co-Chairs Tom Pickering w/ Louise Armour, and the International Criminal Court {ICC) co-Chairs Tom Pickering and Louise Armour, along with UN Refugee groups, Human Watch..Soros and so on. The ICG and ICC always work together. It consisted of the UN/WB/NATO/EU/ICC-ICG/Human Rights and all the other NGO’s including USAID.

Hillary considers Pickering an “old friend” (the guy she chose to head up the Libyan investigation):-

“I want to thank Marc and Frank Giustra. I want to thank Louise (she prosecuted Milsovec etc) for her leadership and everyone on the board; the chairman, an old friend, Tom Pickering; Wolf Blitzer, thank you for giving of your time; and all the generous supporters here tonight. Because for more than 15 years, you have helped policy-makers see the world more clearly and respond to conflict more effectively.”

15 yrs ago they went to the Balkans - don’t know when the Oil Pipelines became a factor but Pickering is Chair of the largest Pipeline Company in the world - Russian. Milsovec and others were accused of Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing of Muslims! Today (as I’m sure it was then) the area is swarming with Salafists, training grounds, and everything that goes with it.

“Well, we can’t wait any longer. So on Monday, the Obama Administration will launch a comprehensive new roadmap that will be accelerating and institutionalizing efforts across the U.S. Government to advance women’s participation in making and keeping peace. In a speech on Monday at Georgetown University, I will explain how our troops, our diplomats, and our development experts will all work together to take our commitment to UN Security Council Resolution 1325 to the next level and make it a priority for American foreign policy. (Applause.)”
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/support/event-calendar/past-events/past-events/annual-award-dinner/award-dinner-2011/keynote-address-us-secretary-of-state-hillary-rodham-clinton.aspx

The above was at a Peace Award ICG dinner. I’m figuring that our government is now working with the same UN Balkan group, (they’re still there and never appear to leave). They did the same in Liberia, Sierra Leone... There’s still strife between Kosovo and Serbia, lots of drugs, and drug running...billions in that, and there’s the Balkan Pipeline going into Europe somewhere...know zip about pipelines. If true, then our military are no longer in our domain but under the auspices of the UN...NATO. I know nato uses lots of countries but ours is the vast majority. They’re nation building...whose paying for it? I know those billionaires aren’t and certainly not Carnegie/CFR who are largely responsible for this new approach which is dangerous as we’ve found out in Libyan. In N. Ireland they released political prisoners and immersed them into their districts. This worked out fairly well but it’s a whole different set of circumstances. They’re blinded by their own PC’ness into thinking if they don’t call it terrorism it’s not...

Reese Foundation Investigation:

During these investigations in the 1950s, the Congressional Committee found that:

Many of our large foundations were actively promoting communism and socialism

The foundations influenced State Department policy and were largely responsible for bringing communism to China.

The foundations were working to undermine our constitutional form of government.

In the official minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Reece Committee also found the following specific questions which were discussed by the Carnegie trustee:

“Is there any means known to man more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?’”

“How do we involve the United States in a war?”

“How do we control the diplomatic machinery of the United States?”

[Their conclusion: “We” must control the State Department.]
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/

Anyway I’m going to put some of the stuff I’ve discovered onto the mediachecker blog I use for storing some stuff though haven’t put some on it as it’s way out there though not so much anymore.

This is insightful...Keynes was a Fabian, the early 1920’s was an interesting time for them...no constraints on anything...(Shirley Williams is an English Fabian and attends Carnegie International, Wilson School, Century Foundation meetings)...
http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch10.html


138 posted on 09/29/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

Hillary at Georgetown early 2012: “Certainly, the scenes that we’re seeing out of Egypt today should be first and foremost distressing to Egyptians and not to us or others before the Egyptian people themselves. The promise, the beauty of the revolutionary aspirations that everyone watched unfold in Tahrir Square, the restraint of the security forces in how they responded, all of that was very promising, and it was held up by the Egyptian people – leaders and citizens alike – as what a new Egypt would look like. The scenes of Coptic Christians protecting Muslims while praying, and then Muslims protecting Coptic Christians while praying was an Egyptian scene – not American or European or Western.”

I just read your post #137. It appears to be a pattern. Syria now has government condoned rape. The Balkans/Rwanda had genocide and ethnic cleansing. N Ireland a massive bombing - an isolated incidence as it came a number of years after the troubles and done by an unknown group. Women took it upon themselves afterwards to get involved, so when Hillary and George Mitchell arrived it was a process already implemented. I know someone who was very involved, she and a group of women were invited to the WH by Hillary, a few years later. They’re a great bunch of people and would’ve given Hillary all the credit not knowing what a narcissist she was...She’s made that a policy now...women will take the lead. That was fine in N Ireland but in the ME, that’s something else again, their thinking is too progressive...

The Jihad Salafists have been destroying mosques in Mali - one of them was actually very stunning until they got a hold of it. They’re doing the same in Libya, Egypt etc., and of course, Churches.

PS: Not only does Pickering belong to the biggest pipeline company in the world, ICG/ICC, he belongs to at least 10 others...


139 posted on 09/29/2012 1:51:29 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: TigersEye
Inquiring minds want to know ?

Where is Part I ?
Part II
Part III
Part IIII of ( Innocents of Muslims films ) that would explain all those other Muslim attacks, opps, " Spontaneous " protest PRIOR to the attacks, opps, " Spontaneous " protest that lead up to the 9/11/12 attacks, opps, " Spontaneous " protests in Benghazi Libya ?

Yes, where are the other films to put the blame on ?
They got to place the blame on something, or someone .

The fact is ? there are none, it was all fabricated BS.
140 posted on 10/02/2012 7:35:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
There were four versions of Nakoula's movie.

Only the final one was forwarded, by persons unknown, to Sheikh Khalid Abdullah the cleric in Cairo who aired it on TV.

You can hear some interesting things about the timeline of all these iterations of "the movie" in the Youtube video linked below. Start at 9:30 and watch to 16:00 for the meat of that.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

141 posted on 10/02/2012 9:02:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Thanks for the link.


142 posted on 10/06/2012 8:16:02 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (Someone please send the Loser in Chief a "President For Dummy's" book.)
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To: Irenic; bronxville
AFRICOM's General Ham was in Vegas, I believe, the day before Obama visited on his fundraising mission in the aftermath of Benghazi- according to one report I saw.

There's a remote chance it was Reno but I am pretty sure the article said Vegas.

143 posted on 11/07/2012 7:29:04 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: bronxville

KONY2012

good poingt, that was another suspiciously overhyped video...


144 posted on 05/15/2013 7:30:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Fedora

Remember the KONY2012 film?

There’s some interesting chat on this thread


145 posted on 05/15/2013 7:33:43 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the ping! Interesting to place the Uganda angle in the long-term context of Clinton's 1998 Africa tour, touched on in the discussion of the Corporate Council on Africa in my Wilsongate article (Joseph Wilson organized the trip to increase U.S. oil exports from Africa). One of my footnotes there referenced this:

"Leaders of Congo, Kenya expected at Clinton summit in Uganda": CNN, March 18, 1998

Congo President Laurent Kabila and Kenya President Daniel arap Moi are to be present at the March 25 summit of ten African leaders in Entebbe, Uganda, said the official, who did not want to be identified.

Clinton is scheduled to leave Sunday on a six-nation tour of Africa, billed by his administration as the most ambitious visit to the continent by a sitting American president.

The official said a formal attendance list is to be issued by the Ugandan government, but that the presence of leaders whose policies have raised concerns with the United States will give Clinton a chance to personally express those sentiments.

Kenya, despite being a firm Western ally during the Cold War years, has been increasingly criticized by its allies over democracy, governance, human rights abuses and corruption.

On a visit last month, Clinton's African envoy Jesse Jackson, who is expected to accompany the president on this trip, said Washington is tough on Kenya because it expects high standards.

SNIP

Along with Uganda, Clinton is to visit the West African nations of Senegal and Ghana, Rwanda in central Africa and Botswana and South Africa in southern Africa.


146 posted on 05/16/2013 6:40:27 PM PDT by Fedora
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