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1 posted on 09/23/2012 1:43:07 PM PDT by Vinylly
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I think it’s more of a case of the further left the Dems have moved post-JFK, many(not all but many) Roman Catholics are learning it is not in their best interest to continue voting for his party.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 1:49:25 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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It’s about time; ethnic Catholics missed the boat for the past 40 years when the leftists took control of the democrat party back in ‘72, I guess they either were asleep at the switch, fellow travelers ignoring the basic edicts of their faith (pro-life, pro-marriage, etc.) or were praying for a miracle that the party would go back to it’s earlier roots, representing the common man and union worker. Oh well, never too late, but we’re at the end of the line, and it finally took the Church to file lawsuits to finally protect their rights after looking the other way for four decades. Give them 12 recitations of the Rosary as part of their penance and vote for Romney/Ryan. Now get on board and pay attention. Sheesh.


3 posted on 09/23/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by john drake
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I think the damage the contraceptive mandate did to Obama with Catholic voters is underestimated by political and media liberals. It was in bulletins and priests were speaking about it in church. The liberals may be very surprised on election night, as stunned as they were in 2004 when “values” were found to be the number one issue. Also, I think the seeds planted in this country by Popes Benedict XVI and John Paul II on their visits here may be starting to sprout.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 1:58:31 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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Abortion...
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5 posted on 09/23/2012 1:59:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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Berlin - September 23, 2012. After Church Event, Face Paint/Male Choir
6 posted on 09/23/2012 2:07:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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I have to ask. What is Borkwurst?


7 posted on 09/23/2012 2:07:27 PM PDT by iowamark
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Let me summarize the letter from the Bishop that was read at this morning's Mass in the diocese of St. Augustine.

“Vote, register to vote (and here's how). I will not tell you who to vote for, BUT you must remember that certain issues are not acceptable and not negotiable to Catholics and you stand accountable to God on this. Those issues are:
1. Life is sacred before birth, throughout life, and until natural death. Euthanasia is evil. You cannot vote for what is evil, or for those who support it.
2. The religious freedom of all people to refuse to pay for abortion and forms of birth control that may cause an abortion must be defended.
3. The definition of marriage is defined by natural law and the word of God to be solely between a man and a woman.

I'm not sure that North Eastern Priests/Bishops have the stones to say this, but it was said clearly and unequivocally at Mass today. When the letter was finished, the congregation applauded.

Now I'd like to here from some of you in the North East, as my experience while attending Mass there in the summer has been a severe case of Catholic-lite.

8 posted on 09/23/2012 2:38:39 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Let me summarize the letter from the Bishop that was read at this morning's Mass in the diocese of St. Augustine.

“Vote, register to vote (and here's how). I will not tell you who to vote for, BUT you must remember that certain issues are not acceptable and not negotiable to Catholics and you stand accountable to God on this. Those issues are:
1. Life is sacred before birth, throughout life, and until natural death. Euthanasia is evil. You cannot vote for what is evil, or for those who support it.
2. The religious freedom of all people to refuse to pay for abortion and forms of birth control that may cause an abortion must be defended.
3. The definition of marriage is defined by natural law and the word of God to be solely between a man and a woman.

I'm not sure that North Eastern Priests/Bishops have the stones to say this, but it was said clearly and unequivocally at Mass today. When the letter was finished, the congregation applauded.

Now I'd like to here from some of you in the North East, as my experience while attending Mass there in the summer has been a severe case of Catholic-lite.

9 posted on 09/23/2012 2:38:52 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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In recent decades white Catholics have been moving some toward republicans, but this shift is too little, too late, because those white Catholics are rapidly being replaced with Hispanic Catholics, just as the older white Catholics are starting to see the light.

As bad as it is, people don’t realize that this is the best period of Catholic voting in our history, but this small window is already disappearing, and will quickly return to the normal Catholic vote.

California is the American future.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:44 PM PDT by ansel12
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13 posted on 09/23/2012 3:53:25 PM PDT by narses
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The majority of Catholics in America came from minority ethnic groups—Irish, Italian, Polish, and so on. They were mostly discriminated against in the earlier years, and mostly working class. They identified with the Democrat Party as the party of the workers.

That began to change with Roe v. Wade. As the abortion issue became more and more identified with Democrats, many Catholics moved over to the Republican party, until it became roughly 50-50, instead of 70-30 or whatever it was before.

Regretably, in that same time period the Church in America began to lose its way, with dissident voices and too many dissident bishops. Otherwise, the movement from Democrat to Republican would have been more decisive.

I think some Catholics were fooled into voting for Obama because of social justice issues, and because they didn’t know how extremely pro-abortion he was. How would they? The press didn’t tell them, and Juan McCain stupidly refused to make an issue of it.

A lot of them still don’t really understand the problem, but I think the word is spreading. FWIW, I haven’t heard a single word from the pulpit of our parish on Obama’s extreme baby-killing and gay marriage positions, or his plans to violate religious liberty. There has been a lot of words spreading around the web, but not everyone is aware of that.

Anyway, I think fewer Catholics will vote for Obama this time around. And if the bishops and pastors would only do their job (IRS to the contrary not withstanding), even fewer would vote for Obama.


14 posted on 09/23/2012 4:15:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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You made a pen on your computor?


16 posted on 09/23/2012 4:31:26 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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2 1/2"X 3 1/2" pen

A two and a half inch by three and a half inch pen? And people actually noticed it?

25 posted on 09/24/2012 10:43:32 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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55-60% will vote for black Jesus


34 posted on 09/24/2012 7:38:36 PM PDT by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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