Skip to comments.Open Note To Askel5 from Laz
Posted on 09/26/2012 6:42:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz
For many years, I thought you were a bit of a nut. A very INTELLIGENT nut, but a nut nonetheless. Your constant harping about Gramscian politics was, to my mind, weird a little paranoid.
It turns out you were one hundred percent right. The move to destroy America has been very below-the-surface, highly organized, and extremely effective ... and the model has been, indeed, Antonio Gramsci's.
From the work Notes on Saul Alinsky and Neo-Marxism:
Remember that the primary influence for Obama's strategy comes from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals." With that in mind..."Alinsky's tactics were based, not on Stalin's revolutionary violence, but on the Neo-Marxist strategies of Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Communist. Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci's transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.
Like Alinsky, Mikhail Gorbachev followed Gramsci, not Lenin. In fact, Gramsci aroused Stalins's wrath by suggesting that Lenin's revolutionary plan wouldn't work in the West. Instead the primary assault would be on Biblical absolutes and Christian values, which must be crushed as a social force before the new face of Communism could rise and flourish. Malachi Martin gave us a progress report:
"By 1985, the influence of traditional Christian philosophy in the West was weak and negligible.... Gramsci's master strategy was now feasible. Humanly speaking, it was no longer too tall an order to strip large majorities of men and women in the West of those last vestiges that remained to them of Christianity's transcendent God."
This excerpt is the bread-and-meat section that tells me that you were prescient and well-versed in the tactics of our enemy. If there is any excuse on my part, I have only one: That which Matt Bracken refers to as the 'normality bias'. I am biased, as are most, to believe things will 'stay normal' and to discount sweeping conspiracies.
But I have awoken. Is it too late, I do not know. Can one man make a difference, I am unsure. Will it get much worse in America, absolutely.
So, this is an open letter to you to acknowledge my being incorrect, you being correct, and to ask you what a nation does to unwind this horrifying and seemingly inexorable push to Marxist/Fascist control.
I did enjoy and learn from her posts from day 1. She was always up against the Freeper mindset that labored under two large misconceptions.
1). Our federal government would never do THAT to us.
2). If our federal government were to do THAT to us, our friends on TV would tell us so.
Good one Laz.
Some back when you can. This is huge. I’m speaking to some brainiacs and spiritual giants who are helping me clarify these thoughts. There may be a counterinsurgency effort we can take that will A) surprise you B) annoy you C) make you leave the conversation doubting my effectiveness, but hopefully D) bring you around to embrace the method.
Laz, you may want to check this out, too. Beck is all over this like white on rice:
The "New World Order" is of communist domination. Red China, A Soviet comeback and, thanks to the POS in charge, a "fundamentally transformed" Marxist US.
Your comment: Her. Askel5 is a rather attractive lady who's eyes, at first, appeared a little too intense. But then you discover the reason her eyes burn so, is that she is top 0.00001% intelligence and she is passionate about freedom.
...reminds me of what I told her one night as we were all sitting during a break in the jazz music group downtown. I told her laughingly that she needed to understand that she sometimes came across on the Internet as a Valkyrie or an avenging Mother Superior on armored horseback swinging a broadsword -- a later day Joan of Arc.
I think she responded that I came across too damn grandfatherly or words to that effect and I told her that it was intentional.
She is a 100% quality person and I am proud to call her a true friend.
Askel5 last post on FR was in Jan. 2012.
Askel5 home page....
If you have an in-real-life pointer and connection to her, please get her attention to this thread. Her input on the forum and her input on the thread are crucial. I’ve learned to respect and defer to the experts, and Askel is, indeed, one.
Communist Party USA had a slogan out for 2008 titled "Revolt with a Vote"
Dynamic Magazine Spring 2008 Double Issue!
Spring 2008, Issue 18
by Dynamic Committee, 30.04.2008 14:57
Author: YCLUSA [Young Communist League USA]
First published 04/30/2008 16:09 by (article_topic_desc)
Dynamic is the magazine of the Young Communist League USA. It includes art, politics, and culture written by youth, for youth.
The 2008 Spring Double issues includes articles about the youth impact on the 2008 elections, youth participation in unions, the writer's strike and its impact on a family that struggled through it, and much more!
Once on the site, click "youth impact" for article:
LINK NO LONGER VALID
Paul told us as much 2000 years ago. We struggle not with flesh and blood..... and we still have not learned the lesson.
I hope our nation comes to its collective senses and turns back to God, but I honestly do not see it happening. Store food and guns if you think it will help, but I think the only way through is to run to the shelter of Jesus Christ. He is my strength and shield, and I rely totally on His mercy and provision. LOOK UP
I'm inviting her to step up her participation and to help us. Especially morons like me who discounted her words before, but now realize she had the truth the entire time.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"-- BARACK OBAMA
After the election....
A Landslide Mandate For Change
A breakthrough election
Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!
We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-peoples movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all peoples movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.
The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and peoples unity.
There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.
The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.
July 1, 2009...
Change is Here, Change is Coming
Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party, USA:
"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."
Liberals self-righteously wrap themselves in the mantle of public spirit. They ardently promote policies promising to deliver the poor and oppressed from their latest misery policies which can only find solution in the halls of government. But no matter what issue one examines, over the last fifty plus years, the liberal prescription has almost always been a failure.
Why is this so? Why does virtually every liberal scheme result in ever-increasing public spending while conditions seem to get continually worse? There are a number of reasons:
In short, all develop a vested interest in the programs survival. But if the result is always more and more government, of government, by government, and for government, with no solution in sight, then why do liberals always see government as the solution rather than the problem?
Similarly, liberals use government to promote legislation that imposes mandates on the private sector to provide further benefits for selected groups. But the results are even more disastrous. For example, weighing the laws or stacking the courts to favor unions may provide short term security or higher pay for unionized labor, but has ultimately resulted in the collapse of entire domestic industries.
Another example is health care. The Dems are always trying to impose backdoor socialized medicine with incremental legislation. Why do you suppose American healthcare is in such crisis? Answer: the government has already become too deeply involved. For example, many hospitals are closing their doors because they are overwhelmed with the burden of caring for indigent patients, illegal immigrants and vagrants who must, by law, be admitted like everyone else, despite the fact that they cannot pay for services. Read about it here Destroying Our Health Care. The net result is reduced availability of care for everyone, exactly the opposite of what liberals claim to want.
To further complicate things, liberal jurists and lawyers have created new theories of liability that utilize the legal system as a means to further redistribute income. This too, has resulted in higher costs and prices in affected industries, higher insurance costs, or in some cases, complete elimination of products or services.
Liberals endless pursuit of rights for different groups also does little but create increasing divisions in our society. Liberal policy pits old against young, men against women, ethnic and racial groups against one another, even American citizens against illegal aliens, all in the name of equality. The only result is anger, tension and equal misery for all.
How does any of this improve our lot?
Finally, when companies relocate overseas to avoid the high cost of unionized labor and heavy domestic regulation, liberals sarcastically excoriate them for outsourcing America. Yet, when it comes to certain domestic industries, liberals in Congress suddenly become free marketers and choose to buy from overseas contractors rather than domestic suppliers. This happened most recently with a huge military contract being outrageously awarded to the heavily subsidized European consortium, AIRBUS, over Americas own Boeing. Since liberals claim to be so determined to save the American worker, what gives?
You have to take a step further back and ask some fundamental questions. Why is the liberal public policy record one of such unmitigated disaster? I mean, even the worst batter hits one occasionally. No one bats zero. No one that is, except liberals.
Prior to the Republican takeover in Congress in 1994, Democrats had over fifty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress with substantial majorities most of the time. With all the time and money in the world trillions spent they couldnt fix a single thing, not one. Todays liberal has the same complaints, and the same old tired solutions. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?
When things go bad all the time, despite the best efforts of all involved, I suggest to you something else is at work something deeper, more malevolent.
I submit to you that it is not a mistake, the failure is deliberate!
There is a method to the madness, and the method even has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It was first elucidated in the 1960s by a pair of radical leftist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven:
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis . the Cloward-Piven Strategy seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
[Part II of this article will explore those organizations created to implement the Cloward-Piven strategy and their ties to the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama.]
The Complete Cloward-Piven Series
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part I: Manufactured Crisis
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part I print copy
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part II: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part II print copy
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part III: Conspiracy of the Lemmings
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part III print copy
Hate Crimes Legislation Back Door Censorship
Also see (from David Horowitz's DiscoverTheNetworks.org) ...
THE CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY (CPS):
Tuesday, January 05, 2010
By Glenn Beck
Meet Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven,
authors of the Cloward-Piven strategy
"I'm going to give you a hard concept to get your arms around: It's the concept that there are people in this country who want to intentionally collapse our economic system."-Glenn Beck
Lol, sorry bout that. Thanks for the correction.
When times are hard, we instinctively turn to God.
Times have been too soft.
That will change.
Brother Laz, a great post!!!
May God have mercy on America. It’s time for sack cloth and ashes, and prayer and fasting.
She will see it. I used to have her e-mail but I am not sure where it is.
I also know where she hangs out on the internet and I will try to ping her there later today. I know that because of her strong RC faith, she ended up getting tired of the flame wars where some that did not like her here followed her around the forum badgering her and many other terrible forms of harrasment and she got damn tired of it.
There's an old sales technique. You give the prospect exactly two, maybe three choices. If you give them a dozen, they freeze.
Same thing with the presentation of your information. A long post with too much information, personally, gives me MEGO ... My Eyes Glaze Over.
Best if you gradually add the information, two points at a time.
Suggestion to you since I know your heart is good, yet your presentation is less effective. Hope you take no offense.
Welcome to the club. No, I’m not being a smart ass. I’m just saying, the more people who get it, the more chance we have of saving our country and ourselves. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter if the things that are taking place are a conspiracy or an evil collection of coincidences...the end result is the same. The liberals/democrats will destroy this country if they continue unabated. I personally believe that it will end if Republicans have their way...just that it will happen a little slower. Conservatives and patriots are the only hope.
I am former army but grew up in a marine town, so I have no hesitation saying...Semper Fi!...when it comes to saving the United States of America.
Yes, she was prescient. I miss her posts.
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