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Open Note To Askel5 from Laz
9/26/2012 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 09/26/2012 6:42:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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1 posted on 09/26/2012 6:42:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz; Askel5

You’re not going to ping him?

2 posted on 09/26/2012 6:45:15 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Lazamataz

Store food, guns and gold.

3 posted on 09/26/2012 6:46:33 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Askel5; Travis McGee
Askel, I hope you are still around.

Trav, this woman is a Ayn Rand-level thinker, and perhaps she might have some ideas on how to start the process of counterinfiltration.

Trav, I get the sense -- erroneously or not -- that you believe the war can be waged with information and (reluctantly) application of direct pressure.

I'm coming to the conclusion that, though information and memes are crucial, that this is, in fact, a spiritual fight. This is a God thing. The things that God tells us to do in the various commandments, et. al., also turn out to make a stronger US and a stronger NATION.

Witness the devolution of the military, in which gays now want to have sex in full view of other soldiers in the barracks. This is but one indication of what this truly is -- a moral war. A war of spirituality.

4 posted on 09/26/2012 6:47:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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To: Lazamataz
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals [1963]:

(as per "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen)

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

5 posted on 09/26/2012 6:51:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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To: vetvetdoug

Don’t forget the ammo!

6 posted on 09/26/2012 6:51:28 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment
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To: Lazamataz

interesting post. Others have mention Gramsci here also.
“Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci’s transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.”
it is also interesting, that the same discussion occurs in Islam.
Al-Qada and the Muslim Brotherhood, have the same goals.
just different methods.
and as with Gramsci, the gradual infiltration,
is vastly more dangerous.

7 posted on 09/26/2012 6:52:23 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lazamataz

Antonio Gramsci links for those Freepers who want to know more:

8 posted on 09/26/2012 6:52:31 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: vetvetdoug
I feel guns gold and food are not the answer whatsoever. This will be useful to get through bumps, but I am talking about the long haul. I feel the answer is spiritual in nature.

The attack has been on our moral standing as a nation.

9 posted on 09/26/2012 6:54:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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To: Lazamataz

Great post, great thread. Already.

10 posted on 09/26/2012 6:54:55 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ShadowAce
You’re not going to ping him?

Her. Askel5 is a rather attractive lady who's eyes, at first, appeared a little too intense. But then you discover the reason her eyes burn so, is that she is top 0.00001% intelligence and she is passionate about freedom.

I did ping her when my message was fully crafted.....

11 posted on 09/26/2012 6:56:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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12 posted on 09/26/2012 6:57:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Lazamataz

She was right and your right. It’s a God thing. But I think it’s too late. It’s over. Biblically there are many warnings and many examples of what befalls countries that embrace God and then reject him. Our country, as a government and as a culture, has rejected God.

There’s no nice way to put it. There’s no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. There’s no happy ending for conservatism in the US. It’s over. Our country will fall for it’s rejection of the Lord. Physical or economic captivity is in the forecast.

But there is good news. As a God thing, the return of Jesus Christ will occur. Christ will return and establish a true, one world, peaceful government and will physically rule over all nations and teach us how we’re supposed to live.

13 posted on 09/26/2012 6:57:25 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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14 posted on 09/26/2012 6:58:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Askel5

I knew you from days at Washington DC. I knew you were correct. I wish we could sit down and have lunch like the old days. Take care where ever you are.

15 posted on 09/26/2012 6:58:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Lazamataz
Gramsci's Grand Plan
16 posted on 09/26/2012 6:58:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Lazamataz

Hmm...lets see...

Obama pushed through school funded by the Saudi’s.

Big Bush and his New World Order. The Bush ties to the House Of Saud.

Agenda 21.

The rise and permitting of radical islam.

The marginalization of an ever increasing number of Americans.

When they killed Kennedy the wheels started rolling ever faster.

And now the plan devised by the global elites is coming together.

BUT, if you have hung around a group of highly intelligent people who have discussed this at length for the last upteen years, there is no surprise.

17 posted on 09/26/2012 7:01:18 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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18 posted on 09/26/2012 7:01:45 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Lazamataz

I have had a bad chest and head cold for a few days, and I can’t wrap my mind around any deep or clear thinking. It just won’t go there.

19 posted on 09/26/2012 7:02:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks, Laz, for posting this piece. I quite agree that this is a long-haul struggle that is more on the spiritual plane than the physical.

20 posted on 09/26/2012 7:04:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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