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The Great Sonny Rollins on Why Jazz Is "King of All Musics"
SF Weekly ^ | Fri., Sep. 28 2012 | Dave Pehling

Posted on 09/29/2012 12:13:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Fiji Hill

Please, please tell me that’s a joke because it sounds like big band music (which I like) not jazz.

Their instruments are in tune, there’s a decent melody and it’s not dissonant sounding and they’re all playing together and there’s a beginning and an end.

I looked him up and it says he blends orchestral music and jazz. He must keep the jazz well under control.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 7:34:43 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
When he was at the height of his popularity, Whiteman was known as the King of Jazz--and celebrated as such in a movie with that title.

However, fans of tunes such as Duke Ellington's 1928 hit Black and Tan Fantasie or Gertrude Rainey's Deep Moaning Blues weren't so sure as to his pretensions to jazz royalty.

22 posted on 09/29/2012 8:59:58 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: nickcarraway

Sonny Rollins is the nicest person I have ever met.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 6:21:22 AM PDT by real saxophonist
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve been playing some Joe Zawinul - Weather Report, Pharoah’s Revenge, etc.

Forty-some years later, still very progressive stuff.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 6:26:59 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

Just realized - by “playing” I meant “pressing play and then listening to”.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 6:28:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Revolting cat!
There’s your so-called popular music

I think "popular music" today reflects contemporary tastes as much as radio's declining audience, television's declining audience, Big Media's declining boxoffice and magazine sales, et al.

The public is being force fed pablum they never consented to. They are pursuing entertainment in ways that are not so easily tracked (listening to numerous Pandora stations randomly serving up songs, 10000 song shuffles on an ipod, used records, netflix, etc.).

The "charts" are less a gauge for popular culture than they have ever been. Too many options, only a few tastemakers being asked "what's selling this week".

26 posted on 09/30/2012 8:16:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Lx

Sorry,

The comment was made in general. I wasn’t directing it at you.

How many concertos have “ad libitum” soli for the featured instrument? These were meant to be ad lib solos, yet somewhere along the way - it became habit to perform the ad lib sections as written.

There is a young pianist whose name escapes me - that has reversed this trend.

Common chord progressions and composition by “the rules” does not imply great music, any more than atonality, dense chords and dissonance imply bad music.

I tend to like music that resolves to a surprise chord - rather than the one it’s “supposed” to.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 11:58:42 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: Lx

Sorry,

The comment was made in general. I wasn’t directing it at you.

How many concertos have “ad libitum” soli for the featured instrument? These were meant to be ad lib solos, yet somewhere along the way - it became habit to perform the ad lib sections as written.

There is a young pianist whose name escapes me - that has reversed this trend.

Common chord progressions and composition by “the rules” does not imply great music, any more than atonality, dense chords and dissonance imply bad music.

I tend to like music that resolves to a surprise chord - rather than the one it’s “supposed” to.


28 posted on 09/30/2012 11:58:42 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: Psycho_Bunny
In the 30-odd years since I began at the Interlochen Arts Academy as a high school freshman majoring in orchestral composition I have never once - not ever - heard a classical musician say anything even remotely like what you’re saying. I’ve found your sentiments are basically something that jazz musicians claim that classical musicians say.

Admittedly, I did read that in a book on jazz. But here's somebody who claims to play both kinds of music saying something very similar. He says his classical music friends don't agree.

It's a bit of a circular argument: you have to find somebody who's open to both kinds of music to make the assessment, but it's likely that such a person isn't going to malign either type of music, while those who do have a pronounced prejudice will.

But, frankly, I’ve never understand why anyone even bothers to have these conversations: jazz and classical music musicians aren’t really comparable: the two styles require a different skill-set of talents. And both of those skill-sets are really cool when they’re dead on.

Certainly. I wouldn't have responded if the post I read wasn't so outrageous.

29 posted on 09/30/2012 12:11:32 PM PDT by x
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