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Posted on 09/30/2012 3:50:06 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country

My elcheapo Compaq has started acting up. The screen goes blank/blur sometimes when I move it up or down for viewing. Had it 3 or 4 years and don't mind spending another 3 hunert for a new one,,,,,,,,,,, except........

This, since retired computer geek/jerk just doesn't see the need to relearn where everything is in W7 and/or W8. And don't anybody say its all the same. This computer I'm typing on is Vista and I would never try to do any work on it. Only use it for Mozilla. Of the 6 computers I have its the only Vista. Four are XP Pro and one is W7 Home which I haven't turned on in a year or more. I'll put XP on it when the need arises.

So I started looking at new laptops and hhhmmmmmmmm, XP drivers for new chipsets seem nonexistent :<(((((.

Anybody know of a new XP compatible laptop????

Hey, I just went to XP Pro from Win 98 3 years ago.


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1 posted on 09/30/2012 3:50:09 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Well, if you’re really determined to do this — which I wouldn’t recommend to a client, so I don’t recommend it to you — your best alternative is this: buy a new laptop with Windows7 and make sure it has lots of memory. Download VirtualBox (free) and install and run XP in a virtual machine.


2 posted on 09/30/2012 3:54:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Get a Mac Book Pro.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 3:55:55 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Since you seem bound and determined to stick with the obsolete virus magnet that is WinXP, I would suggest getting another old, used laptop off of Craigslist or eBay, or maybe a local garage sale.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 3:57:06 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: FredZarguna

Agreed. You get too far behind the 8-ball Allen, and you create more problems than it’s worth.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 3:57:17 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Get a Linux Pro.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 4:01:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

If you aren’t going to do work on it, and only want to surf the web, get a tablet. If you want to maybe do some work on it, I switched to a MacBook Air and am really happy. Solid state drives, boots in ten seconds. Haven’t really bought much extra software for it.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 4:02:28 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
I like Japanese laptops.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 4:03:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

http://m.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=17&sel=Detail%3B175_100_9917_9917


9 posted on 09/30/2012 4:04:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Revolting cat!

Per FReeper judgements, Linux is the only politically acceptable computer.

Gates and Ballmer contributed to the Wash St gay marriage initiative and Apple is run by a gay guy.....


10 posted on 09/30/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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No use spending money on new hardware if you’re going to run an old OS.


11 posted on 09/30/2012 4:06:39 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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No use spending money on new hardware if you’re going to run an old OS.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 4:06:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Bump to see the hilarity as the OS wars ensue.


13 posted on 09/30/2012 4:06:46 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: FredZarguna

Do not touch Windows 8 yet! Stay with Windows 7. Most of the bugs are out of it and it “works”.

At this stage in Windows8’s development its almost as goofy a Vista was! Wait a couple of years and they’ll get the bugs out of it.


14 posted on 09/30/2012 4:07:12 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

My 4+ year old Toshiba Satellite runs XP and Firefox, but I also have Chrome installed.
It has slowed down quite a bit and has numerous problems such as audio stuttering. I am too old and stupid to know how to fix it, despite running all the normal maintenance and cleanup programs.

I just bought a used Toshiba, from a distressed expat, for my 18 month old boy to watch his U-tube kiddie spots. He already knows how to turn it on and work the up/down keys.
It runs Windows 7, which is a pain for me.


15 posted on 09/30/2012 4:10:22 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Revolting cat!
I like Japanese laptops

Well, interestingly, while that is clearly a Japanese laptop in the first picture, the Japanese guy in the second shot obviously prefers the American laptop.

Variety is the spice of life...

16 posted on 09/30/2012 4:12:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: svcw

He said a few hundred dollars, not a few thousand


17 posted on 09/30/2012 4:15:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I have been in the computer business for over 25 years... And I understand the appeal of relative simple operating nature of Win XP. But one cannot go with a no longer supported operating system forever. However, for home / personal / casual use the over done high handed - difficult to overcome security levels of Win 7 are preposterous. For Corporate / Enterprise use what Microsoft has done with Win7 for security is appropriate - but for personal use most of it should simply be allowed to turn it off with a few clicks in a setup routine. I don’t want to run my home systems like an Enterprise network... I want to easily connect to other computers on a two-three station private LAN... But Win7 turns simple computing at home into a pain in the BUTT. I don’t want work - I want ease. This is one reason people strive to stick with XP. And about being a virus magnet... I have used dozens of XP computers in personal and business environments and having a top grade Anti-Virus software installed prevents 99% of all such problems. And some of these A/V Apps are free.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 4:16:15 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

You might check ebay. XP is going away.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 4:17:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: nascarnation

So what?
Apple has damn good products....this is about their tech, which is superior, not their sex lives.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 4:18:08 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I had that situation when Vista first came out and I needed a new laptop that ran XP for my work software (I’d been told Vista would *never* be supported). Could not buy a Windows XP machine anywhere. I bought a MacBook Pro and installed Parallels, which allowed mt create a virtual computer running XP.

The rig worked fine. The guy upthread wasn’t joking you about “Buy a Mac.”


21 posted on 09/30/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: nascarnation

And Linux will run on practically anything. My 1999 Compaq 400 Mhz Celeron laptop which I keep just for kicks boots contemporary kernels just fine, and I can browse OK as long as limited to one or two Firefox tabs (forget most video).

There are plenty of left-wing kooks in Linux land, though, don’t kid yourself. The author of one distro I formerly used on the Compaq calls himself “Anticapitalista” (and hails from Greece!).


22 posted on 09/30/2012 4:19:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: AlexW

Make a backup copy of all your data files. Then re-install Windows XP from scratch. It will then run as good as new, unless you have hardware problems such as corrupted files on hard drive. Run CHKDSK program to cleanup bad sectors on hard disk if any.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 4:19:22 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: driftdiver

Yea, I got that.
He appears to want something that doesn’t require learn’n, apple products are user friendly and last years.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 4:20:08 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: WellyP
As a professional software developer, I don't have any choice about that. However, notice I recommended he buy a Windows7 laptop. In general, I don't recommend anyone buy the dot-zero release of anybody's OS. And before the usual OS bigots from Linux and MacOS jump me, I have real hardware and VM's with both of those OS's, too, and the dot-zero release of those products are not any different from Microsoft's. I have to support them because clients insist on doing stupid things, like buying the newest "improvements," or hanging onto OS's that are many years past their useability, like Windows XP.

Pioneers take arrows. Always been that way, always will be.

25 posted on 09/30/2012 4:20:14 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

A Raspberry Pi:

What’s a Raspberry Pi?

The Raspberry Pi is a credit-card sized computer that plugs into your TV and a keyboard. It’s a capable little PC which can be used for many of the things that your desktop PC does, like spreadsheets, word-processing and games. It also plays high-definition video....

Read more here:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs


26 posted on 09/30/2012 4:21:01 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: driftdiver

27 posted on 09/30/2012 4:21:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: svcw

Their tech is not superior. I don’t care about their sex lives.


28 posted on 09/30/2012 4:23:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Jyotishi

Well that would certainly come in under his $300 price target. I don’t know about the learning curve though.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 4:24:57 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: svcw

I forgot to add the /sarc

Obviously Limbaugh is a huge Apple proponent


30 posted on 09/30/2012 4:26:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I finally went from XP to Win7 late last year.

The problem you will find with XP is that websites keep adding more and more of the lastest coding. My XP’s struggled with some web pages and wouldn’t even load others.

Go with a Win7. Top of the line processors are 3rd generation Intel I7 is the fastest, I5 next, I3 next. Also, Win7 handles more memory beyond what XP was limited to.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 4:30:39 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: nascarnation

;-)


32 posted on 09/30/2012 4:33:58 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: FredZarguna

How sad.....


33 posted on 09/30/2012 4:34:39 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: smokingfrog

Got me looking, thank you. No, W7 tries to twist my arm way up my back. The security on this Vista box is so useless in a home I have to use other computers to move files to and from it. As referenced I can only imagine W7 being more inhospitable to the home as far as total flexibility is concerend.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 4:40:40 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: nascarnation

And with Limbaugh’s putdown of Samsung is EXACTLY why I will buy a Samsung TV as soon as possible. And this is from a fan of his.


35 posted on 09/30/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: svcw
What's really sad is that Intel makes the processor, Nvidia makes the video drive train, TI, Motorola, and other suppliers make the memory, Western Digital, Seagate, and Toshiba have all at various times made the hard drives, and BSD wrote the OS for Mac, but you continue to pay double the premium mark-up for exactly the same hardware that's used in Wintel and Linux boxes, and for an OS that Apple did not even write.

Ah well, a fool and his money, Eh?

As I said, I have to support Macs in my business. If I didn't, I certainly wouldn't waste my money on 'em. Luckily, those few I MUST buy are 100% expensed and written off.

36 posted on 09/30/2012 4:54:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

You can set the User Access Control to the same level as XP on Windows7. Nothing to it, and you’re done once and for all.


37 posted on 09/30/2012 4:55:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: AlexW
...has numerous problems such as audio stuttering.

I had the same problem and solved it by downloading an earlier version of Adobe Flash Player.

If you have auto-update for the Adobe Flash player, you update when reminded by Adobe that there is a new version. This problem may be inherent in the newer version. At least it was in my case.

Uninstall the Adobe Flash player on your system and install a previous version and your problem may be solved.

38 posted on 09/30/2012 4:59:20 PM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Why I bought my Samsung HD/LED SmartTv:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV-k-4GpYLM

Seriously.

I’ll do anything he tells me to.

;D


39 posted on 09/30/2012 4:59:44 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country; nascarnation

I love Rush, but when it comes to technology he hasn’t a clue. As soon as the Mac crap comes on, the 24/7 web page goes off for a mandatory 10 minutes, and for 10 additional minutes if I tune back in and he’s still yakking about it.


40 posted on 09/30/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When a first-rate intellectual like Samuel L. Jackson makes this kind of a video ... well ...)
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To: USNBandit

And we’re talking three hundred or so, right? sarc/


41 posted on 09/30/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Panasonic Toughbooks are legendary for longevity. I’m sure you can pick up a good one off of ebay that still works well and has XP on it, and for not too much money. You should research the models and make sure you get one of the newest models that still has XP on it, as there will be tons of very old Toughbooks on ebay.


42 posted on 09/30/2012 5:03:25 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: FredZarguna
I'm also a professional software developer, and I run a Mac as the most versatile system for developers. It's the only "legitimate" way to run OS/X, and I run Win7 and Linux in VMs. It let's me do anything. And, I love my Macbook Air.

However, I gave my mother a Win7 machine. For her, it's the best choice. She is totally computer illiterate, and she had no trouble switching from XP to Win7.

At this point, I would recommend anyone running XP to upgrade to Win7. Avoid Win8 for the time being (and maybe forever). But Win7 is the best version of Windows available.

43 posted on 09/30/2012 5:07:49 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

A few things to consider: First and foremost - the only way you’re going to be running XP is in a virtual machine on another platform. The last six months have really left XP behind in terms of drivers. There are a few geek clubs out there who are dedicated to making XP compatible drivers available, but the time investment to do that seems silly.

Next, we’re nearing the good old Black Friday sales - stock is rotating in for preparation for those sales, and prices aren’t going down until they can discount it for the holiday season. There’s some great deals on referbs right now, but a new laptop right now is a financially bad exercise. If they can stick it to a few parents to get them to overpay for old technology for kids, they’ll do it.

And especially since your budget is running the floor, every dollar counts. A $400 machine discounted to $300 during Black Friday can be twice to three times the machine that same $300 buys today.

So my advice: hold off on buying a replacement for the moment, extend the effort into learning W7 rather than spending fruitless hours trying to find XP drivers, and then pick up a great deal in November.

For myself, 90% of my browsing is now done on my Nexus 7 tablet, most of my streaming goes to my television, and my laptop can sit for days without use.


44 posted on 09/30/2012 5:14:31 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
Microsoft support for Windows XP with Service Pack 3 will end on April 8, 2014. Good luck keeping the bad guys off your Internet-connected computer after that, especially after antivirus programs no longer support the OS.

If you really want one, there are plenty of used XP laptops for about $300 on Amazon.

At that price I would probably just replace or zero the existing laptop hard drive and install Linux Mint 13. That's what I did with an old Dell laptop that a friend gave me. Replaced the hard drive, bought a new power supply, and it has been a great second laptop, responsive and fairly easy to use. Linux still requires a bit of extra work, but nothing like the bad old days.

45 posted on 09/30/2012 5:23:26 PM PDT by TChad
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To: JohnG45

“Uninstall the Adobe Flash player on your system and install a previous version and your problem may be solved”
____________________________________________
That is interesting.
I think I had recently upgraded my Flash player.
Just minutes ago I did the latest Firefox upgrade.
No stuttering so far this morning, but if it starts again, I will try the older Flash.


46 posted on 09/30/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: nascarnation
Per FReeper judgements, Linux is the only politically acceptable computer. Gates and Ballmer contributed to the Wash St gay marriage initiative and Apple is run by a gay guy.....

Well consider this...Linux was invented by Richard Stallman, a self-avowed atheist who often wears an "Impeach God" button on his clothing. He's a socialist who eschews personal wealth and believes that all software should be free. He's a Green Party supporter who admires Nelson Mandela and Ralph Nader among other commie types.

Need I go on?

Let's just stop trying to fit our political ideology into the computers that we use, or the music that we listen to or the movies that we watch, etc. We are bound to be disappointed. Just go with the best.

Get a MacBook Pro. Most dependable computer I've ever owned and it replaced my desktop as well. Get a tablet (i.e. iPad) for web-surfing and email on the living room couch. Scrap the bug-ridden virus-attacking Microsoft OS's (though Windows 8 does look promising). Also, if it make you feel better, the OSX operating system on the MacBook Pro is based on Linux.

47 posted on 09/30/2012 5:26:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Get whichever one you like and download and run: “Windows XP Compatible Mode” which you can get for free here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx


48 posted on 09/30/2012 5:28:51 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: SamAdams76

I left off the /sarc tag on the initial post.

A few years ago, I started tabulating a list of retail outlets that were “off limits” by FReeper condemnation.
Eventually we got down to the St. Vincent de Paul Thrift Stores as the only remaining option.

Then someone posted an anti-Catholic screed and we were out of business completely, LOL.


49 posted on 09/30/2012 5:30:22 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Hey! Don’t forget to include The Samsung Galaxy 3S! The worlds geekiest phone:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview-hands-on/

My wife bought me an IPhone 4s which works but when I renew I’ll be upgrading to the Galaxy.


50 posted on 09/30/2012 5:36:03 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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