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The #1 Most Disturbing Thing About Biden in the Debate (vanity)
10/12/12

Posted on 10/12/2012 6:33:39 AM PDT by workerbee

Was anyone really surprised at Biden's behavior last night? I saw exactly what I expected to see. It's pretty much been his M.O. for as long as I can remember: mock, condescend, act bored by the other guy's youth/incompetence/ideas, etc. In other words, just like Putzident Obamugabe wanted, Joe was being Joe.

However, for me, the part of the debate that was truly appalling -- even for Biden and his clown act -- was his dismissal of the concern of a nuclear Iran. I honestly could not believe what I was hearing, as he essentially poo-poo'ed Ryan (and by extention, Romney, the Repubs, conservatives, etc.) and the concern about Ahmadinejad obtaining a nuke.

I know it will be hard to choose, but what, for you, was the #1 Most Disturbing Thing About Biden in the Debate?


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1 posted on 10/12/2012 6:33:46 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: workerbee

Too much preparation or too much alcohol and medications.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 6:35:42 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: workerbee

Biden acted like a typical liberal thug, the kind you don’t often see on t.v. but the kind you see at any union rally.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 6:36:07 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: workerbee

Given his issues with plagairism I was tickled by his, “So now you’re Jack Kennedy?” jab.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:05 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: dragonblustar

Was Bob Beckel his debate coach?


5 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:05 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: workerbee

Proverbs 29:9

If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs, and there is no rest.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: workerbee

Intelligence community completely dropped the ball protecting the Abmbassador.

But we’ll know exactly when they are about to get a nuclear bomb.

???

Doesnt add up, Joe!


7 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:12 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: workerbee
I was equally concerned when Ryan said that the AlQuiada fighters in Syria and Libya were FREEDOM FIGHTERS. ..... that is obamas policy to overtake governments with aq ........
8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:43 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: workerbee

He behaved and sounded just exactly the same as every Liberal I have ever discussed politics with in my life.

Somehow they think that if they can they shout you down and interrupt you... that makes them RIGHT!!

Really!?


9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: FreedBird
Too much preparation or too much alcohol and medications.

Exactly.

Did you notice in the last half hour, Joe Biden did not laugh and mug, snort and interrupt like he did during the first hour? I think he was coming down from the Joker Juice he had obviously had a bit too much of.

10 posted on 10/12/2012 6:42:40 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: workerbee

That was the most disturbing part of the VP debate to me, too, though as much because Ryan didn’t call Biden on the nonsense of “they don’t have a weapon to put it in” and “we’d know if they had a weapon”. Really? We really know they don’t already have a bomb casing with an artillery tube down the middle designed to drive one almost-critical mass of enriched uranium into another on the model of Little Boy? Really? Iran is a big place and a uranium gun-bomb, unlike a plutonium bomb, is a really simple device. So simple that the original test of the design was carried out over Hiroshima, rather than in the New Mexico or Nevada desert.

The Iranians are plainly planning on making a uranium bomb, not a plutonium bomb, and knowing their ideology, the test is likely to be carried out over Tel Aviv or in a container ship in the Port of Los Angeles or the East River.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:45:52 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: workerbee

When Biden danced around the first question, talking about everything else, but not really answering, I concluded this debate was a waste of time and turned it off.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 6:46:08 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: workerbee

What disturbed me was him blaming the Intelligence community for the two weeks of lies about the situation in our embassy. Sheesh. I doubt if the CIA, etc., is very happy about being the scapegoat.

I wonder if they could provide info to Romney with facts and stats to embarrass Obama and perhaps bring him down. Paybacks are a bitch.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 6:46:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: workerbee

His dental work.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:47:02 AM PDT by CityCenter (It's too late, Obama yeah, it's too late.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

At the end, he was hitting a low from his induced high. He was laughing, when Ryan was talking about Libya; the death of the Ambassador. It was obvious something was wrong with Biden, laughing at something so serious and sad.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:47:41 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: workerbee

I totally agree. Biden wants us to not worry about the Iranian uranium enrichment program because, he claims, they won’t have a “weapon” in which to put that uranium.

The Iranians might be crazy, but they’re not stupid.

Only an idiot would believe they aren’t simultaneously working on a weapon for their uranium, and a delivery system to put that weapon in downtown Tel Aviv.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:48:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (If Obama is an empty chair, then Biden is the whoopee cushion.)
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To: SMARTY

Couldn’t really understand what was so funny? We were all ready for a serious debate. Biden acted like he was on Saturday Nite Live, ready for a comedy show.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 6:50:47 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: workerbee

Watch the condescension, rudeness, and idiot behavior of that idiot and then there is no question why there is no “bipartisanship” when the Rats are in power. There is no way to put it other than they are aholes.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: workerbee

The hair plugs, the maniacal grinning, the inappropriate laughter, the wild gesticulating, the overdone brow lift, the fact that he had stolen Erik Estada’s teeth.....need I go on?


19 posted on 10/12/2012 6:51:54 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Did you notice in the last half hour, Joe Biden did not laugh and mug, snort and interrupt like he did during the first hour? I think he was coming down from the Joker Juice he had obviously had a bit too much of.

Either he was coming down, or somehow his handlers got the word to him that his Joker act wasn't going over very well.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 6:52:03 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (If Obama is an empty chair, then Biden is the whoopee cushion.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Agree with you Madam. The biggest “gaffe,” if you want to call it that, was Biden saying that the Libyan embassy never asked for additional security despite stacks of documents, emails, and even testimony on Capitol Hill by State Dept. officials that they were asking for additional security for weeks.

This, in my opinion, was the most egregious oversight in any debate I’ve ever witnessed. Biden’s either a serial liar, criminally corrupt, or woefully ignorant of the going’s on in DC.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: The_Reader_David
“That was the most disturbing part of the VP debate to me, too, though as much because Ryan didn’t call Biden on the nonsense of “they don’t have a weapon to put it in” and “we’d know if they had a weapon”. Really? We really know they don’t already have a bomb casing with an artillery tube down the middle designed to drive one almost-critical mass of enriched uranium into another on the model of Little Boy? Really? Iran is a big place and a uranium gun-bomb, unlike a plutonium bomb, is a really simple device. So simple that the original test of the design was carried out over Hiroshima, rather than in the New Mexico or Nevada desert.

The Iranians are plainly planning on making a uranium bomb, not a plutonium bomb, and knowing their ideology, the test is likely to be carried out over Tel Aviv or in a container ship in the Port of Los Angeles or the East River.”

I thought Ryan's reply to this was week. I was thinking he
should have asked if we were supposed to watch a sworn
enemy build, load, cock, and point a gun at our head before
we did anything to stop them.

22 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:39 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: workerbee

I listen to Mike Medvid on his radio show. Mike warned us that Biden would be O’bummer’s Pit Bull. He really understated his warning. Biden was a raving maniac, insulting well over half the intelligence of the American people. This behavior can do nothing but hurt the d’RAT party.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:54 AM PDT by Vinylly
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To: freedommom

That isn’t what he said. He said obama waited too long and NOW al qaeda and other jihadi factions are swarming into Syria. He said that the time for choosing was much earlier.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 6:54:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Fresh Wind

He’s a bully.


25 posted on 10/12/2012 6:55:48 AM PDT by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: workerbee

I have a conservative friend commenting on Facebook this morning. He’s been posting a lot of articles critical of Biden’s performance last night. Along with every article, he posts this comment...

“When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man,
The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest...”
~ Proverbs 29:9

Kinda says it all, no?


26 posted on 10/12/2012 6:55:53 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: cuban leaf

I heard that on Dave Beck this morning too, -and he’s right.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 6:55:53 AM PDT by Vinylly
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To: workerbee

With that oversized, over-white set of screw-in choppers, Biden looked like Jim Carrey in The Mask.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 6:56:49 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: The_Reader_David

I agree completely. This fantasy that Iran needs some sophisticated ‘weapon’ should have been shot down immediately.

Most people have no idea how different weapons work...and they may include Ryan.

If Iran has Uranium, and Iran has centrifuges, nothing stops them. This is 1940’s technology...not that exotic.

One of the Israeli wargame scenarios is two container ships, in two Israeli ports....a simultaneous attack that could kill 10% of their population in an instant. If we believe the Iranians have successfully enriched uranium, the rest would be about as difficult as a middle school science fair project. No ICBM’s or other exotic weaponry needed.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 6:56:49 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: workerbee
However, for me, the part of the debate that was truly appalling -- even for Biden and his clown act -- was his dismissal of the concern of a nuclear Iran.

I agree completely. How can he respond to the Bengazi question, blaming the attack on the video, because of bad Intelligence...and then half an hour later state, with confidence, that our Intelligence is trustworthy enough that he can state that Iran is not even close to having a nuke weapon????

Is American Intelligence trustworthy, or not?

Paul Ryan missed a major point here.

30 posted on 10/12/2012 6:57:10 AM PDT by kidd
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To: cuban leaf

Man...wish I’d had my eyes open...you already got the quote.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: workerbee
Friday, October 12, 2012
The Libya Cover-Up: The Vice President Dives In
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 8:57 AM



The two substantive foreign policy take-aways from last night's Biden debacle were the Vice President's insistence that we need not worry about Iran because Iran lacks a delivery vehicle for the nukes it is soon to posses, and the Vice President's insistence that the Administration was not warned about the situation in Libya.

Josh Rogin, writing at Foreign Policy's blog The Cable, provides the complete rebuke to the Veep's absurd attempt to turn the page from the disaster in Libya and the president's misleading responses here. The Vice President was quite obviously and intentionally deceiving or wholly and almost unbelievably unaware of the events of the past three days. As Jennifer Rubin pointed out this morning, even Andrea Mitchell had to call out Biden on this whopper.

Had the Vice President not beclowned himself so thoroughly, this would be the lead story, but his wild display of gestures and expressions will dominate the news cycle for a day and then the scrutiny will resume over Libya and it won't be pretty.

Neither will be the focus on the Veep's absurd ramblings on Iran and the mullah's lack of a delivery vehicle for their enriched uranium. Downplaying the immediate and growing threat from Iran will not help assure the key cosntiutuency of supporters of Israel that the president and his key advisors are serious about the threat.

Off to Phoenix to help Vernon Parker, Jonathan Paton and Congressman Paul Gosar in their campaigns to keep the GOP in the majoirty oin the House, but the final word on the debate last night has to come from James Hohmann's headline in today's Politico:

"Was Biden a buffoon?"

Never a good way for a debate to be framed. 

UPDATE: See also the WaPo's Alexandra Petri's very accurate take on how the Veep came across.  Dems will keep up a brave face, but the polls will continue their slide as America sighs over the four years invested in the man who wasn't there and the court jester who cheered him on.

Don't miss the RNC's YouTube compilation of Joe's greatest grins and grimaces. Hundreds of thousands of views, and growing.

32 posted on 10/12/2012 6:59:38 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: workerbee
The thing that most disturbed me about Biden was his obvious ignorance about building nuclear weapons when he said there is still a long way to go after a country acquires enough fissile material (U-235 in Iran's case) to build one. U-235, although much harder to acquire than plutonium, is much easier to make into a bomb. The Hiroshima bomb was a U-235 bomb. That meant it was basically made like a gun with an explosive charge at one end of a tube fining a U-235 projectile into a U-235 target at the other, thereby causing the two pieces of U-235 to go critical and detonate. The gun bomb technology was so well understood in 1945 that we didn't even have to test it. An implosion bomb that used plutonium was what we had to test. Since the Iranians are using U-235, they're probably planning to build gun bombs, meaning they'll be able to do it quite easily once they have enough highly enriched U-235, something dear 'Ol Joe didn't even bother to mention.
33 posted on 10/12/2012 6:59:40 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: silverleaf
Was Bob Beckel his debate coach?

I think it was either tingles matthews or kief overbite.

34 posted on 10/12/2012 7:02:22 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: The_Reader_David
The Iranians are plainly planning on making a uranium bomb, not a plutonium bomb, and knowing their ideology, the test is likely to be carried out over Tel Aviv or in a container ship in the Port of Los Angeles or the East River.

If it's in a ship near a major US city, count on it having a cobalt casing to maximize fallout, and thus destroy property values within a large radius.

35 posted on 10/12/2012 7:04:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: The_Reader_David

Congrats. We both said the same thing in different ways about U-235 bombs vs. plutonium bombs and how simple U-235 bombs are to build. Ryan should have picked up on that point.


36 posted on 10/12/2012 7:08:07 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: The_Reader_David

How much trouble is it to find a suitcase to put a dirty bomb in?


37 posted on 10/12/2012 7:13:07 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: CrazyIvan

I agree with that and to me Ryan didn’t have a great outing, though i think he did better towards the end and really came on strong in the last 10 minutes or so. My guess is that he was more concerned with not making big mistakes rather than trying to score a lot of big points. He played it safe and i think that was the right strategy given how the campaign is going right now for them. Obama/Biden needed to be more aggressive but as is the wont of liberals, Biden ended up being too aggressive and turned off a lot of people.


38 posted on 10/12/2012 7:15:12 AM PDT by Humbug
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To: workerbee

I thought the most distrubing thing, next to the side shot of his waddle under his neck was that fact that he’s been in our govt for almost as long as Ryan has been alive. He’s the problem!


39 posted on 10/12/2012 7:16:47 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: workerbee

I could’ve sworn I heard Biden snicker when Ryan was talking about abortion.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 7:19:45 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: FreedBird; Fresh Wind

Yes, it was obvious and sad that something was so wrong with Joe Biden. There should be mandatory drug/alcohol testing for Presidential/Vice Predential debate candidates. It is obviously needed!


41 posted on 10/12/2012 7:20:55 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: workerbee
Bidens dismisal of the Iranian ability to get a bomb remined me of John Aristotle Phillips: (From Wikipedia) Phillips was born in August 1955 to Greek immigrant parents and raised in North Haven, Connecticut[1] In 1976, while attending Princeton University as a junior undergraduate, he designed a nuclear weapon using publicly-available books and papers.[2] In February 1977, several months after the story first went public, Phillips was contacted by a Pakistani official trying to purchase his bomb design, an incident addressed on the Senate floor by William Proxmire and Charles Percy.[3] Phillips was a celebrity by this time, dubbed The A-Bomb Kid by the media,[4] and making a series of television appearances including a featured spot on the game show To Tell The Truth.[3] Phillips was an underachieving student who played the tiger mascot at Princeton games. Hoping to stay at the school, he proposed a term paper for a seminar on nuclear proliferation outlining the design for an atomic bomb similar to the Nagasaki weapon. Whether the weapon as designed would have actually exploded was questioned. Dr. Frank Chilton, a California nuclear scientist who at that time specialized in nuclear explosion engineering, said Phillips’s design was “pretty much guaranteed to work.” [Associated Press, retrieved from Spokane Daily Chronicle, Oct. 9, 1976]. However, Phillips' faculty advisor Freeman Dyson, a renowned physicist, and professor Harold Feiveson, who held the seminar, said Phillips' design was not functional.[5] Nevertheless, the Federal Bureau of Investigation confiscated Phillips's term paper and a mockup he had constructed in his dormitory room. In 1979, Phillips published his story together with a co-author, David Michaelis, as Mushroom: The True Story of the A-Bomb Kid (ISBN 0-671-82731-6 / ISBN 0-688-03351-2).

A C student designed a workable a bomb design from publically available information, and slow Joe doesn't realize that the technology has improved in the 25+ years since.

42 posted on 10/12/2012 7:23:29 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Humbug

“I agree with that and to me Ryan didn’t have a great outing, though i think he did better towards the end and really came on strong in the last 10 minutes or so. My guess is that he was more concerned with not making big mistakes rather than trying to score a lot of big points. He played it safe and i think that was the right strategy given how the campaign is going right now for them. Obama/Biden needed to be more aggressive but as is the wont of liberals, Biden ended up being too aggressive and turned off a lot of people.”

Well put. And I will admit it’s easy for me to armchair
quarterback. I wouldn’t last a minute in a debate. All in
all he played his cards well.


43 posted on 10/12/2012 7:26:32 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: lacrew
One of the Israeli wargame scenarios is two container ships, in two Israeli ports....a simultaneous attack that could kill 10% of their population in an instant.

a better plan would be an airrelease over the middle of Israel. The EMP would eradicate msot of their electronics and they would be reduced to hand weapons against planes and tanks.

44 posted on 10/12/2012 7:30:45 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: workerbee

I haven’t thought too much about Biden these last 3 1/2 years. After his “performance” last night I can’t decide who is more of a danger to this country, him or Obama.


45 posted on 10/12/2012 7:31:33 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: The_Reader_David

#11 — absolutely.


46 posted on 10/12/2012 7:40:25 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee
His mannerisms and smugness....


47 posted on 10/12/2012 7:43:00 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Where's yo dollah ?????)
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To: MayflowerMadam

That was mine too; how does Biden get off excusing the admin for following intel? Bush was excoriated for following intel!!!

But you are correct too — there is no way that the intelligence community was still saying protest over a clip on YouTube as long as the president’s minions were.


48 posted on 10/12/2012 7:46:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: verga

“a better plan would be an airrelease over the middle of Israel.”

Lots of things would be better...and Slow Joe seems fixated on how hard it would be for the Iranians to launch a ‘complex’ attack....i.e. ‘they don’t have a weapon to put it in’.

The cargo ship scenario doesn’t require violating Israeli airspace with a large aircraft, doesn’t require a missile, doesn’t require anything. No technology needed.


49 posted on 10/12/2012 8:49:27 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

The worst for me was the deliberate plan to NEVER address Ryan by anything personal. It was intentional that he called him “my friend” 20 times as if Ryan is just another person he’ll debate along his guv-mint journey.


50 posted on 10/12/2012 8:57:59 AM PDT by King Hawk
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