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VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
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Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1

What would they be? A gun? Then you are only allowed to bring 2 bullets..see how that works?? Some basic ground rules..has to be a realistic items you can get you hands on today..no tanks etc. You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day. Never coming back.

Saw this question on another site and wanted to see what you guys would come up with..I will post that link tomorrow after everyone has a chance to come up with their ideas..some people came up with good ideas (detailed history text of the time in Europe, antibiotics) and other people's ideas..not so much.


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To: Eye of Unk
Hopefully an isolated superior advanced nation built soley upon native Americans like the Cherokee and such become the dominant rulers of the free world. Bigger than Britain or Germany, more powerful but not warmongers instead.

Native Americans were just as wormongering as Europeans. Why do you think they would have acted differently if the Aztec built ships and "discovered" Europe instead of the other way around?

51 posted on 10/14/2012 8:30:13 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: babble-on

Bringing a Bible makes sense...the ones available at the time were only hand-scribed by monks in monasteries, with only priests and abbotts/abbosesses had them.


52 posted on 10/14/2012 8:30:28 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: trailhkr1

Detailed medical volume.
Detailed chemistry volume.
English-Latin Dictionary.


53 posted on 10/14/2012 8:31:09 AM PDT by Holen1 ("Those possessed by nothing possess everything.")
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To: cuban leaf

That was the book I read, they actually made the rifle and the albeit smoky bullets but the chrome lined barrel gave them a problem.

But I would not try to advance Europe, I would rather start an empire in Australia, so by the time white man comes around the continent has superior tech, centuries ahead.


54 posted on 10/14/2012 8:31:19 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: cuban leaf
How about just after Gettysburg?

Phenomenal book, I'd highly recommend it for anyone with an interest in history/alternate history.

I'd also recommend Turtledove's "How Few Remain" which is true alternate history ("Guns" combines alt history with SciFi) starting at the point where that copy of Special Order 191 used to wrap cigars isn't lost but then jumping forward a couple decades to an America where the North and South are separate, competing, countries.
55 posted on 10/14/2012 8:31:31 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: PizzaDriver

The Farmer’s Almanacs are all done specifically for the year in which they are published, as well as being specific to a geographic location. Not helpful for the 8th century AD.

I’d imagine such a time traveling person would be viewed with suspicion so a weapon or personal protection should be one of the three. I’d go for kevlar body armor, discrete, could be worn under period clothing to blend in. As big a box of antibiotics as permissible would be another, those were plague years. For the last, I’d go for a set of DIY books with a survivalist bent, like the Foxfire series.

Then, I’d have to swallow my American distaste for such things and engratiate myself to the local lord as quickly as possible, lol.


56 posted on 10/14/2012 8:33:22 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: trailhkr1

Solar powered Fleshlight

Solar powered Electromagnetic Laser Gun

The World’s Largest Yodel


57 posted on 10/14/2012 8:33:25 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: trailhkr1; Lazamataz
the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day

So much for taking a bar of bath soap.

58 posted on 10/14/2012 8:34:23 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: trailhkr1

Penicillin making equipment with instructions.
Book of how to make stuff.
Extensive book of botanicals.


59 posted on 10/14/2012 8:34:42 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: trailhkr1
I'd have to give it a little more thought, but this is a difficult question because I'm not sure if I'm pre-supposing that other things already exist when I select my three items.

For example ... a Garmin GPS unit with a solar power supply would be a no-brainer to me, but am I assuming that there are satellites in orbit to make the Garmin work correctly?

60 posted on 10/14/2012 8:36:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: trailhkr1

3 gold bars. Then I can setup a kingdom of my own..


61 posted on 10/14/2012 8:36:46 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: LRoggy

http://www.amazon.com/Fleshlight-Original-Male-Masturbator-Pink/dp/B0026P3P7M

I hope you meant flashlight.


62 posted on 10/14/2012 8:36:54 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: trailhkr1

The series “Connections”, video player and solar batteries.


63 posted on 10/14/2012 8:38:19 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: trailhkr1

1. A shirt
2. A pair of pants
3. A good pair of shoes

I didn’t know if clothes would be included in the trip. It wasn’t specified so I had to assume not.

Don’t wanna be caught naked in 8th century Europe.


64 posted on 10/14/2012 8:38:55 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: trailhkr1

penicillin
Plans for a steam-powered electric generator
A Barrett 82A1


65 posted on 10/14/2012 8:40:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: trailhkr1

My spinning wheel, my drum carder and my interchangeable knitting needle set.

I won’t conquer the world, or jumpstart the industrial revolution, but I will be able to earn a living at fifty and female.


66 posted on 10/14/2012 8:40:46 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: trailhkr1

Ipad loaded with reference books on medicine, chemistry, engineering, etc. (Still counts as one item). Solar charger for ipad.. Water purifier.


67 posted on 10/14/2012 8:40:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: trailhkr1

Oh you do get clothes.

Ok well then:

1. A good telescope
2. A good microscope
3. A flashlight


68 posted on 10/14/2012 8:41:06 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: trailhkr1

1.) Hand-cranked flashlight

2.) 2-liter soda bottle (empty)

3.) Survival hatchet or Swiss Army Knife. I’d prefer both, but would lean towards the hatchet.


69 posted on 10/14/2012 8:43:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: svcw
and I need time to figure out what has vit C.

Let me give you a head start. Citrus fruit has vitamin C.

70 posted on 10/14/2012 8:45:37 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: trailhkr1
I hope everyone carrying books back to 742AD Europe are capable of explaining paper. :)

That being said (and completely applicable to all three of these,) my three items:
One roll of duct tape.
One metal cup.
One Gerber Gator machete.
71 posted on 10/14/2012 8:46:01 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: DManA

That was awesome. It is cool that some people still have those skills.


72 posted on 10/14/2012 8:46:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Make sure you have the human diploid rabies, plague, meningitis and the whole alphabet of hepatitis shots, in addition to the usual yellow fever, polio, typhoid & tetanus immunizations.

(”Pincushion City!”)

A good backpacking water filter until you can make a “BioSand” filter for your home/hut/hovel/cave.

Pocket Ref 4th Edition [Paperback] Thomas Glover $8.68 Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Ref-Edition-Thomas-Glover/dp/1885071620/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

Finally, your favorite Leatherman, Swiss Army Knife, Gerber, etc with belt sheath & lanyard (I’m cheating a bit here with the lanyard. Mine is 50’ of nylon parachute cord.)


73 posted on 10/14/2012 8:47:04 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: occamrzr06

Pine needles


74 posted on 10/14/2012 8:47:13 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
1. A nuclear warhead to be used in Mekkah.
2. A second nuclear warhead to be used in Medina.
3. A third nuclear warhead to keep any followers of Mohammad in line.
excellent choice...& put on some 45spf grade...
sunshade/sunglasses; before you go..safety first. 8-/

75 posted on 10/14/2012 8:47:37 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: tanknetter

And a hint about “How Few Remain”. In a subsequent war, the south’s secret weapon is the Camel.

there is a WWI stage of his books too. In that one, Germany sides with the country in the north and France and Britain side with the southern country, giving us an American front in WWI.

I bought hard copies of all his WWII books, where we are invaded by aliens in the middle of the war, but felt I was being strung along by the second book and threw out the lot.

But Guns of the South is awesome and “How Few Remain is pretty darned good.


76 posted on 10/14/2012 8:49:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: trailhkr1

Three items? Okay.

The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E)

Done.


77 posted on 10/14/2012 8:49:49 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: flintsilver7

I ALMOST was going to say something about that typo....


78 posted on 10/14/2012 8:51:47 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: trailhkr1

A comprehensive book on engineering, a comprehensive book on gunsmithing, and a comprehensive book on chemistry. I carry the formulae for gunpowder (black and smokeless varieties) in my back pocket at all times, so it is part of the clothes on my back. My goal would be to first establish a private army armed with advanced weapons; second to establish an empire over Eurasia by 762; stamp out all traces of Islam by 782. I would also assume both the Papacy and the throne of the Byzantine empire, and in doing so establish permanently a united Christian faith all across the lands I ruled. I would be corrupted by the power I wielded, ruling by force and terror, and eventually be overthrown by my subjects, who would then fight amongst themselves and destroy civilization. No doubt I would have an interesting paragraph in a history textbook. Perhaps I would even be regarded by revisionist historians as a great humanitarian because of the wonders of technology.


79 posted on 10/14/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: tanknetter
2.) 2-liter soda bottle (empty)

I would do what the locals did to carry my water and would come up with something else as my second choice...unless you have another purpose for the bottle.

80 posted on 10/14/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: RandallFlagg
The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E)

Done.


Crew sold separately. ;)
81 posted on 10/14/2012 8:52:09 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: DManA

‘Guy from Wisconsin figured out how they did it and recreated the sword. Smelted his own steel from iron ore, forged it, even did the inlaid name Ulfberht.’

Saw that. The really funny part was that they had a second tier model (or someone was knocking it off)for guys who wanted the flash but coulcn’t afford the original.


82 posted on 10/14/2012 8:55:57 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Doc? Is that you?


83 posted on 10/14/2012 8:56:08 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (This tagline for rent. Contact GeorgiaDawg32 for pricing and excellent financing options.)
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To: Renderofveils

Well, if we’re going to get all picky about period appropriateness you’d better bone up on archaic European languages before you pop out of here, because you’re not going to be able to explain anything at all otherwise.

Even English as spoken today would likely sound like gibberish to an individual from the 8th century. Ever read Chaucer in the original Middle English? That’s from six hundred years later.


84 posted on 10/14/2012 8:57:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: occamrzr06

Where there citrus fruits in Europe at that time?
I thought the explorers brought them back from China, much later.
If there are citrus, then I get to bring something else.


85 posted on 10/14/2012 8:57:43 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: trailhkr1

Water purifier, antibiotics, Swedish firesteel.


86 posted on 10/14/2012 8:58:27 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: trailhkr1

Where would I be transported to? Viking village? Monastery in Ireland? Feudal Japan? Antarctica? Location determines the three things that I would need.


87 posted on 10/14/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: trailhkr1

A flintlock musktetoon made with modern metallurgy, A 25lb bag of black powder to get me started, and a K-bar or similar heavy duty knife.


88 posted on 10/14/2012 8:58:43 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: flintsilver7

I was hoping someone would pick up on that. But I meant Fleshlight, that way I wouldn’t need penicillin - LOL!


89 posted on 10/14/2012 8:59:31 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Well, if it were the Aztecs, conquered peoples would become livestock. Europe at least quit making people into “the other white meat” centuries before coming to the Americas.


90 posted on 10/14/2012 9:00:10 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Where would I be transported to? Viking village? Monastery in Ireland? Feudal Japan? Antarctica? Location determines the three things that I would need.

The title..742 a.d. Europe.

91 posted on 10/14/2012 9:00:48 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: RegulatorCountry
“Then, I’d have to swallow my American distaste for such things and engratiate myself to the local lord as quickly as possible, lol.”

Well, you COULD bring a taser,tell his Lordship how things are going to be, and if he demurs, make his ass do the funky chicken.

92 posted on 10/14/2012 9:01:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: svcw

There used to be coconuts, but they migrated under the dorsal guiding feathers of unladen swallows.


93 posted on 10/14/2012 9:01:59 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: factoryrat
A flintlock musktetoon made with modern metallurgy, A 25lb bag of black powder to get me started, and a K-bar or similar heavy duty knife.

20 guys of the day rushing you in the woods out of nowhere and you would be dead meat...

94 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:09 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: LRoggy; flintsilver7
I hope you meant flashlight.
LL!

95 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:21 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: TalBlack

That would be a very gratifying albeits shortlived experience. If you survived you’d be tried as a witch or sorcerer if you lived that long.


96 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:38 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Yes, MichaelTArchangel!! Weapons to stop the damage that Mo and his Minions from Hell will cause in the future.


97 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:56 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: trailhkr1
First I would like to be in the Eastern Roman Empire and here is what I would bring...

1. Bring my computer with a solar power charger. So I can help Byzantine Empire expand and defeat the Muslims.
2. Beef Jerky
3. A nice world map.
98 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:56 AM PDT by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: Flag_This; All

a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

“Just what you see on the walls, pal!”

Personally, I’d take:
Soap
Peroxide and
Penicillin

Over time, I might be considered a god of longevity.


99 posted on 10/14/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

C’est moi.


100 posted on 10/14/2012 9:04:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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