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Does anyone actually think we'll see an Obama poll surge post-debate?
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Posted on 10/17/2012 9:10:59 PM PDT by HawkHogan

On Greta, one of the guests on her panel, Rick Klein, predicted a post-debate surge for Obama in the polls?

Does anyone actually believe that's going to happen?

This panel seems to think that it's still an uphill panel for Romney, even with polls like Gallup showing him with a 6 point lead.

I tend to side with Dick Morris on this issue. I feel that this election is going to be a landslide, with some surprising states like Pennsylvania (my own home state) going to Romney.

Is it foolish to be so confident about this election? Most of the pundits, albeit the biased ones, still think Obama comes out on top.


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1 posted on 10/17/2012 9:11:05 PM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: HawkHogan

I’m the King of Optimism, don’t come after my crown.

PPP detects no bounce for The Disaster and they ain’t on our side.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 9:14:17 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: HawkHogan

No...Not in the real world but you’ll see one in Obama’s media world.


3 posted on 10/17/2012 9:15:15 PM PDT by Route395
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To: HawkHogan

I live in a development community north of Reading Pa. I have seen one Obama sign, and scores of Romney signs which are now very difficult to get. I think Pa is going to bury Obama and the mushmouth Bob Casey who is also up for replacement.


4 posted on 10/17/2012 9:15:15 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: HawkHogan

Greta’s panel is terrible. They’re all unrealistically optimistic for Obozo. We might see a slight bump, but I would be surprised if Romney drops below 49.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 9:17:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: HawkHogan

Mitt’s been leading well before the first debate.

The MSM, think Candy , has shown bogus polls to make Obama look better.

Now this close to E day, they have to show real polls.


6 posted on 10/17/2012 9:20:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I know what it is to be Black,to be hated for who I am, more so than Whoppi does. I'm a Republican.)
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To: HawkHogan

He’s been President for four years. A terrible Romney performance would give him a bump, not an upbeat Obama performance.


7 posted on 10/17/2012 9:25:24 PM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: HawkHogan

Those of us NOT suffering from “white guilt” saw Barry’s performance last night as being pretty dreadful. He had to lie his goatsmellin’ ass off to “win” on “points” for his commie lib ‘RATS. What his toads in the state controlled “media” do with their “polls” is something we have no control over. The only poll I’m waiting for is the one on November 7th. All the others are just noise.


8 posted on 10/17/2012 9:25:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (This is America! Being dead is no excuse not to vote!!!)
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To: NoLibZone
Rush mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the MSM seems scared of Obie. Whether it is the fear of being frozen out the remainder of the year or plus four if he happens to win or if it is something else. What little credibility they have is really on the line. The pressies are way beyond whistling past the grave yard. They are in full throated song.
9 posted on 10/17/2012 9:30:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: HawkHogan

In this time in American history....YES! :( So gird your loins its gonna get bumpy! I just pray to our heavenly Father that it will be a tiny one! Continue to pray folks...GOD HELP US, please hear our desperate pleads!


10 posted on 10/17/2012 9:33:37 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: HawkHogan

Klein is an idiot. He thinks because the punditry declared Obama the victor in the debate that he will get a likely bounce.

I suspect something else will happen...many of the undecideds will have swung to Romney and will start showing in the polls in the coming days.


11 posted on 10/17/2012 9:34:50 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: HawkHogan

I believe it is much much harder to go from a negative impression to a positive one than from a neutral position to a positive one. I think huge amount of people had not formed a Deep opinion of Romney, but people have had 4 years to for a deeply negative opinion of Obama. They are not going to reverse themselves after telling their friends they do not like Obama.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 9:34:50 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: HawkHogan

I don’t know about the debate but if theulstermanreport is not a hoax, then Obama will win. It is being said at the ulsterman site that Obama bombing or doing a drone strike is imminent.


13 posted on 10/17/2012 9:35:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: HawkHogan

Not at all. This will be an avalanche for Romney heading into the election. There’s no october surprise obama can pull.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 9:36:32 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: gotribe
Rick Klein - seems like he was a Clinton critter at CNN that helped him limp through Impeachment. Next question, please.
15 posted on 10/17/2012 9:39:47 PM PDT by CT
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To: HawkHogan

Unlikely. But we’ll probably see lots of phony doctored economic data.


16 posted on 10/17/2012 9:40:23 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: HawkHogan

The current Romney lead in Gallup is likely the high water mark for him. That will likely move back towards parity in the coming days. I suspect we’ll go into the election with a dead heat.


17 posted on 10/17/2012 9:40:23 PM PDT by paul544
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To: CT
I predict Candy Crowley will go get two turkey legs from fridge and eat them in homage to the great job she did for her boss, Obama.

Don't forget to have a plate of cookies too.

18 posted on 10/17/2012 9:42:30 PM PDT by CT
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To: HawkHogan

Yes, because on Nov 3rd new unemployment rates of 3% will be released, and Obama will bomb an al Qaeda clone factory beneath a secret NAZI bunker disguised as a Baskin Robins. Ed Shultz will break into patriotic tears while Bill Maher screams about Obama the kick-ass warrior.


19 posted on 10/17/2012 9:47:42 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: patriotsblood

” scores of Romney signs which are now very difficult to get.”

Has FreedomWorks been distributing the great “Fire Obama” signs out your way? Very simple. Black background. Big white letters. “Fire Obama.”

We can’t keep them in stock here in Colorado. My wife scrounged up the last 200 in the state today and delivered them to our local victory office. They were gone in a a few hours.


20 posted on 10/17/2012 9:49:25 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: HawkHogan

All the pollsters have to do is tweak the numbers...have 15% more Democrats than Republicans and they can show a bump for Obama.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 10:11:42 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: arrogantsob

Too early for a bounce if any is coming. Tomorrow am at the earliest, or more likely within the next week.

I doubt there will be one on Rasmussen, but some of the others work for pay and may give their masters something.
Quinnipac maybe.


22 posted on 10/17/2012 10:14:24 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: ModelBreaker

I’m feeling the same way as most of you. I really don’t understand how these media types are so confident about Obama.

I also don’t understand why CNN kept stressing that their debate poll was oversampling Republicans... do these media types really expect a 2008 turnout model?

I still have hope and faith that Republicans/Democrats break even, especially in swing states, and it’s a Romney landslide.

I’m just trying to eliminate all nervousness before the election. I’m a young conservative, and I just my future job hops greatly diminished with an Obama win.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 10:15:24 PM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: HawkHogan
Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt Rove, after Romney hit 50% in Gallup: "No other prez candidate has been at 50% or higher at this point in the race in this survey and lost. Good to know
24 posted on 10/17/2012 10:34:41 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: Irenic
...if theulstermanreport is not a hoax, then Obama will win. It is being said at the ulsterman site that Obama bombing or doing a drone strike is imminent.

Bombing an aspirin factory, ala Bill Clinton, won't help Bozo at this late stage of the game. Nothing short of total victory in a real conflict could possibly help him now, and Atila's invasion forces are not cooperating.

25 posted on 10/17/2012 10:52:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I sure hope you are right. I get nauseous and terribly depressed when I think about the possibility of another 4 with Obama and that freaking wife of his.


26 posted on 10/17/2012 11:06:24 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

We shouldn’t trust anything we read until we see confirmation from an ally.. These late polls could be the pollster trying to cover their a$$, or a head fake to show a Obamster as the Comeback Kid, building momentum to the finish line..

They’re not going to go down without a fight, or a backup plan.. This is just the beginning of their stretch run to the planned finish..

Don’t be surprised at anything they say as we get closer to the end, especially if Romney starts to surge..


27 posted on 10/17/2012 11:19:48 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: HawkHogan

No.


28 posted on 10/18/2012 12:21:12 AM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: HawkHogan

Not I.


29 posted on 10/18/2012 12:23:32 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: HawkHogan

I doubt it... considering the polls also showed Romney as winning on the issues.

There was an older woman who spoke up during the Luntz Las Vegas focus group... who basically explained who these new female voters were.

They were women who had voted for Obama in 08, but had already decided not to support him in November. However.... They had not yet decided whether or not they would vote for Romney, ie. whether they would vote at all.


30 posted on 10/18/2012 10:31:05 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: buwaya

The Disaster lost another point in the Gallup so it is not looking good for him.


31 posted on 10/18/2012 12:10:50 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m confused. Does The Disaster’s ass smell like a goat? Or is he smelling goats’ asses. We have to get this straight. Goat sniffing or goat scented?

These poll have been great for a month because when they were examined in detail they actually showed Romney to be cruising to victory. Now they are hiding the internals so we can’t tell who is being sampled.

I suspect that they are still oversampling Ds and Women so what we are seeing is a disaster for The Disaster.


32 posted on 10/18/2012 12:18:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

If that focus group by Luntz which Hannity is predictive this is going to be a landslide approaching tsunami.

If you can watch it, it’ll make you feel great.


33 posted on 10/18/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: paul544

After the next debate The Disaster is going to drop even more. His ass is totally on the line with Libya and Fast and Furious and Romney is going to hand it to him BIG TIME.

The Bubble has popped.


34 posted on 10/18/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Viennacon
Greta’s panel is terrible.

I don't know where she gets these boys from. Even she got on my last nerve last night saying it wasn't a big deal that michelle clapped during the debate. She broke protocol. This is a high stakes election. Greta and O'Reilly tend to go overboard playing devil's advocate. Sometimes you just have to go with..... if it walks like duck....

35 posted on 10/18/2012 12:25:34 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Irenic

One thing American history should teach us is that we have survived a lot of lunacy in the past. Heck, we tried to commit national suicide at one time killing what would be millions in today’s population.


36 posted on 10/18/2012 12:29:38 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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