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President Obama Descends from America’s First Slave
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Posted on 10/29/2012 8:22:52 AM PDT by traumer

We’ve all heard about President Obama’s Irish roots, and we know his father came from Kenya. But a research team from Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family history resource, has also concluded that the nation’s 44th president is also the 11thgreat-grandson of John Punch, the first documented African enslaved for life in American history.

And what’s more, the connection comes through President Obama’s Caucasian mother’s family.

This discovery follow years of research by Ancestry.com genealogists who, using early Virginia records and DNA analysis, linked Obama to John Punch. Punch was an indentured servant in Colonial Virginia who fled to escape servitude in 1640. After he was caught, his punishment was enslavement for life. Punch’s is the first documented case of slavery for life in the colonies, occurring decades before slavery laws were enacted in Virginia.

President Obama is traditionally viewed as an African American because of his father’s heritage in Kenya. However, while researching his Caucasian mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Ancestry.com genealogists found her to have African heritage as well. Their interest piqued, the researchers kept digging. DNA analysis helped confirm that Dunham’s ancestors, known as white landowners in Colonial Virginia, actually descended from an African man. Existing records suggest that this man, John Punch, had children with a white woman who then passed her free status on to their offspring. Some of Punch’s descendants went on to be free, successful land owners in a Virginia entrenched in slavery.

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1 posted on 10/29/2012 8:22:52 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

I don’t believe a word of it. This was done to gin up support for the bastard in the WH.


2 posted on 10/29/2012 8:24:13 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: traumer

Does this explain the push to enslave the rest of us to FedGov?


3 posted on 10/29/2012 8:24:42 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: raybbr

Africa -> Ireland -> America.... ?


5 posted on 10/29/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

There is NO way they can do this. Chances are near nil he would share any DNA, and the records going that far back are questionable, IMO.


6 posted on 10/29/2012 8:28:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: traumer; mikrofon; martin_fierro

So I guess this would make him . . . a nice Hawaiian Punch.


7 posted on 10/29/2012 8:28:57 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (A nice Hawaiian Pun.)
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To: traumer
Obama has a remedy for that:
8 posted on 10/29/2012 8:30:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: traumer

Even if true he’s still a horrible POTUS and probably a traitor...so who cares.


9 posted on 10/29/2012 8:31:39 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: traumer

As a descendant of an African Moslem, 0bama is far more likely to be a descendant of slave TRADERS, rather than slaves.


10 posted on 10/29/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: traumer

Being in the genealogy field for over 20 years (since I was a teen), my observation is that amateur genealogists are almost entirely conservatives.

Professional genealogists, like the ones at New England Historic Genealogical Society and well known ones like Megan Smolenyak and Gary Boyd Roberts, are ultra liberal.

Ms. Smolenyak has written extensively on Obama’s wife’s slave roots, and liberal icons like Rachel Maddow and VP Biden.

She has a blog on HuffingtonPost. I asked her point blank if she just wants a job in the Obama administration. She responded by blocking me and calling a “troll” and “stalker.”


11 posted on 10/29/2012 8:35:47 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: Aria

so for pay back he wants to be president for life LOL


12 posted on 10/29/2012 8:37:03 AM PDT by molson209
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To: raybbr

“Free status” was not something one could voluntarily pass on - there were many, many white slaves for that reason.


13 posted on 10/29/2012 8:38:02 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: traumer

Hahahahahaha!

One more disengenuous reason to play the race card on his behalf.


14 posted on 10/29/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: traumer

WOW! Next they’ll be saying his third cousin is Elizabeth Warren and he has a little Indian blood in him too. We could nickname him Yellow Chicken Feather Slave Token.


15 posted on 10/29/2012 8:39:55 AM PDT by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: traumer

Wow, not any slave but the FIRST slave! I always kind of thought they brought a bunch over at the same time, but apparently, there briefly was a time where there was just a single slave in the entire country known as “the first slave”.

Would have really sucked being him.


16 posted on 10/29/2012 8:40:22 AM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: traumer

There it is folks, the race card front and center. The only thing that surprises me is why it took so long to whip it out. Their study must have determined this was the optimal time to come out with it.


17 posted on 10/29/2012 8:42:23 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: traumer

He’s only maybe at most 1/32 Irish (Kearney), and it was Orange.


18 posted on 10/29/2012 8:44:26 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: traumer

Then he is admitting Anthony Johnson started slavery in the US. Anthony Johnson was black.


19 posted on 10/29/2012 8:49:34 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: MNDude

***Wow, not any slave but the FIRST slave! I always kind of thought they brought a bunch over at the same time,****

From what I have read, the first slaves were treated as “Indentured Servants” and were given their freedom after 17 years. Same for Indentured whites.

John Punch, the first documented African enslaved for life in American history, was owned by A BLACK FREEMAN who took Punch to court and had him made a PERMANENT SLAVE as a result of his attempt to escape his Indentured status.

So, the first slave in New England was owned by a black man.


20 posted on 10/29/2012 8:51:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: RochesterNYconservative

I never watched that PBS TV show about Hollywierdos family history because the genealogists are all liberals.

The primary reason that there are now a lot of blacks involved in doing family history research is in order to establish official “slave blood” so as to get a place in line for the Obama forthcoming African American Reparations plan.

The Time is Right for Reparations

http://washingtoninformer.com/index.php/financial-literacy/item/6383-the-time-is-right-for-reparations


21 posted on 10/29/2012 8:55:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: traumer

A Math major friend tells me that all humans are genetically related at being 28th cousins or closer.


22 posted on 10/29/2012 8:55:47 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: traumer

I read that two, three times. What the Hell did it say? A black guy, a white women and then a white woman and a black guy procreated six times and the Voila! we have a Mulatto with no brains or guts? I must be tired.


23 posted on 10/29/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: OldNavyVet
"A Math major friend tells me that all humans are genetically related at being 28th cousins or closer."

Was that "math major" Crazy Uncle Joe?

24 posted on 10/29/2012 8:59:42 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
From what I have read, the first slaves were treated as “Indentured Servants” and were given their freedom after 17 years. Same for Indentured whites.

Indentures were for a period of seven years and were generally a means of repaying the cost of passage. At the end of seven years, most colonies provided for a grant of land and the purchase of farming implements.

Christians could not be sold as chattel, but non-christians could. The early colonies complained that persons released from their indentures did not become productive citizens, but became indigent troublemakers. So, they tried to find a more reliable source of labor. The colonists tried to enslave Indians, but this did not work well, as the Indians could easily run away. Their problem was solved by Portuguese merchants who showed up with African slaves bound for their colonies. This institution was legal in all colonies, but only became economically significant in southern colonies where plantation agriculture was practiced. In these early days, slaves could be granted their freedom by their owners, and some became slave holders themselves. Overtime, colonies and states tended to pass laws that made manumission difficult or illegal.

25 posted on 10/29/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: PghBaldy

Highly plausible. Do the math. If members of each generation from this guy John Punch on down produced only four offspring each, there would be 67 million people (Maybe even Mitt Romney) who could claim direct descent.

Desperate people tend to clutch at straws.

ps - PghBaldy, let’s bring PA home for Romney/Ryan and SHOCK THE WORLD!!!!


26 posted on 10/29/2012 9:05:11 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: KeyLargo
descends from America’s First Slave...?
27 posted on 10/29/2012 9:10:49 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer
As absurd as this probably bogus story seems, I can see some linkage between the two.

John Punch obtained slave status as punishment for running out on an indenture - a legal and voluntary contract. It's likely that he walked off with some one else's private property as well.
If he and Hussein have any relationship at all it's because neither one had/has any regard for legality and both seem to have strong interest in other people's stuff.

Note as well that most of us probably have indentured servants somewhere in the blood line and that you can still lose your freedom for commiting contract fraud, just not for as long a time.

(Sorry, spell check not working)

28 posted on 10/29/2012 9:15:05 AM PDT by norton
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To: traumer

Bullshit.


29 posted on 10/29/2012 9:25:33 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian
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To: traumer

While they speculate he was descended from a slave through his mother, all they actually prove is he actually is descended from slave owners.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 9:59:09 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: traumer

OBAMA CONSIDERS HIMSELF TO BE A SLAVE OF ALLAH.

Is that sufficient on the Obama ‘slavery’ issue?


31 posted on 10/29/2012 10:03:49 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: traumer
No birth certificate. No clear indication who his father is. No college transcripts. No nothing. Yet we KNOW he is descended from the first slave.

How stupid do these people think we are?

32 posted on 10/29/2012 10:11:27 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: traumer
Why are you re-posting this?

This issue was dealt with and dismissed on this site months ago. As a member of the Luo tribe, Obama's connection with slavery was on the retail side. This is nothing but a shabby attempt to establish some sort of "American Experience" for this mulatto charlatan. Given the inexorability of ancestory, if your family has been in America since the 18th century, or married into a family who has been here since then, you too can claim "descent" from the "Punch," or Robin Hood, for that matter.

Don't forget to take time away from your computer to vote against the Mombasa MF.

33 posted on 10/29/2012 10:16:23 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende on drugs.)
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To: traumer

Absolutely not true. He’s a direct descendant of Lucifer and his real Birth Certificate shows his place of birth as “Hell”.


34 posted on 10/29/2012 10:23:08 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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