Skip to comments.Rasmussen 11/2 - R48.4, O47.6
Posted on 11/02/2012 6:35:25 AM PDT by mrs9x
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Again, he was only correct about the NUMBER who will vote for O no matter what.
That’s why HE said he didn’t say it right. That’s why RYAN said he was inarticulate.
FACTS: Obama will get millions of votes from liberal rich and middle class people who earn good incomes and who pay federal taxes and are not dependent on the government dole.
FACT: Romney will get millions of votes from working poor and lower middle class people who don’t happen to earn enough to owe federal income taxes and who are as self sufficient as they are able to be under the circumstances. Imagine a conservative man or woman who is poor because of unemployment and will blame Obama and vote for Romney. As just one example. There are millions of various examples of Romney voters who YOU say are voting for Obama, because of your allegiance to a comment that was admittedly SKEWED and did not reflect reality or what the man meant to convey.
You can cling to your dream world that the 47% comment was sacred, and you can blow off the truth every day for the rest of your life. That will not change the facts that the comment was skewed and the commenter himself, and his running mate, had the good graces and good sense to say so.
Many Republicans (and Freepers) see substance and package as inherently opposite of each other. They think if the substance is right, people will buy whatever they sell.
At this point, if you really can’t see much difference between the two, you wind up voting for “the Devil You Know.”
Obama is still sitting at 47%. There is no breaking. In Rasmussen’s poll, Romney has dropped from 50 to 49 to 48.4. Based on the poll he’s losing ground that he had won. Obama hasn’t picked up more than a point in weeks.
Yup, that's what it looks like to me as well. Romney was picking up momentum at just the right time and Sandy wiped it all away. There is still a few more days, hopefully Obama's Sandy bounce fades and Romney recovers.
I may be proven wrong, but I don’t think this is anything like a 1% race. Polls that are based on democrats having the same enthusiasm they had in 2008, when the nation voted D+ 2.5%, don’t pass the smell test. If anything, I thing the mood is less positive for democrats than it was in 2004, when the nation voted R +1.5.
But all the polls assume democrats are as fired up to vote for Obama as they were in 2008. I think we are seeing a fundamental flaw in how polls are conducted, with Republicans refusing to participate in polling.
I hang up immediately on ANY call involving politics. ANY. I have no interest in being polled anywhere but the polling booth. I view the media as the enemy and I don’t want to tell them anything. And I think a lot of Republicans are like me.
I think the election will force pollsters to rethink how they collect data. But we’ll see if I’m right in a few days. I expect Romney to win by a 53/47 margin - too close for the unmitigated disaster that is Obama, but Romney was RIGHT about the 47% who want to live sucking the government teat.
Certainly trending in the wrong direction. Clearly some movement towards Obama following the storm.
Romney had clear momentum, up 3 & 5 in Gallup and Rasmussen, respectively, only 4 days ago on Monday - and at the important 50% marker.
(I would not want to be Chris Christie if Obama somehow squeaks out a win.)
I still think Obama is in a bad place at 47.6% with 3 days to go. And I think the Sandy bump will decipitate over the weekend - as more anger builds up in NY/NJ, Lybia scandal drips out more, and the UE increase (to 7.9%) makes it way past the media filter.
I mean a couple tenths of a point brings this back to a 2 point lead. I think/pray we will see Romney back up to a 2-3 point lead in final poll on Monday.
My Faith will be tested if Obama wins four more years.
People are hyperventilating over a few small point movements either way. The fundamentals of the race have not changed.
For god sakes, Reagan was down by 6 points with a week to go against Reagan in 1980. I’d hate to know what this board would have looked like in those circumstances.
Nonsense. If you aren’t part of the “Romney Landslide ZOMG!!!” squad then you are obviously a “concern troll” and an “Eeyore”. /sarc
The kool-aid drinkers around here back in 2008 assured us that even though enthusiam for Bonzo was sky-high, all the polls were wrong and McCain would surely win. Now these same mathematical geniuses tell us that any poll they don’t like is “D+4” or “D+9” or “D+infinity” and therefore Romney is not losing, he’s winning, and furthermore he is winning BIG!!!
Remember “Operation Chaos”? Remember the “PUMAs”? They weren’t going to vote for Bonzo, no sirree; enough of them would cross over to pull McCain across the finish line and “Broken Glass” Republicans would be in there helping to save America too.
Didn’t quite happen that way, did it?
The fact is that the 2012 race is very close because the 47% welfare animals are a LOCK for Bonzo. That leaves very little margin for Romney to work with. The fact is that the puppetmasters who control the media and the Democratic party (and the voting machines, and the judges who will order polls to stay open to facilitate as much vote fraud as necessary) are not about to let America’s first melanin-enhanced President get UN-elected. No chance.
It would be great if next Tuesday night brings back ecstatic memories of 1994, or even 2010. It’s FAR more likely to be a rerun — a little closer perhaps, but still the same outcome — as 2008.
All this last-minute drama and yet early voting shows Romney up 52 -45. Who is answering the phones on these voter polls? The early voting tallies are taken from actual results based on local area codes.
Just vote! I did yesterday in very Blue Palm Beach County, FL. The crowd was very pro-Romney, anti-Obama, and lots of signs about Benghazi. The Jewish Republicans, never a presence around here, were very active at the Boca Raton City Hall where we had early voting.
Folks, trust your gut. This country is a mess, and even Obama’s supporters, for all their hatred of anything conservative, admit they are disappointed. They know Obama has no answers, only disdain for our values. This ship is sailing and Obama is left at the dock. We are going to win!
I have seen this coming. There can be no doubt Obambi got a small hurricane bounce.
The only question is whether it will linger until election day or will dissipate again.
History suggests the challenger does better in the final days before the election. If that holds true, then Romney is still in strong position.
If not, well . . . I don’t want to go there just yet.
“Not good and getting tired of the We win crowd already!!!”
So, what do you want? An endless stream of “We’re gonna lose”?????
There’s another dynamic not reflected. People are fed up. Every day it is a solid barrage of surveys and political robo calls. We have told family and friends we are not answering the phone and how they can reach us around the recorder.
Second, about 1/5 of people have already voted so they are not answering surveys.
I believe all the survey/polls are all flawed.
The discussion of the 47% was dead on, and so is Buckeye McFrog. It was politically damaging but the comment was made to address an attendees question about winning over voters. Romney correctly said there is a baked in percentage of people who like the free stuff, so his message of cutting free stuff is going not going to work with them. Where he mangled the statement politically and in reality is that is it not a straight up correlation. EVERY person with government benefits is not someone who want to be. Every person with above average income is not necessarily against it.
In 2008 surveys (Rasumussen, I believe), when broke down by recipients vs productive people, it was a mirror image. I forget the exact percentage, but of the people that pay taxes, it was either 80/20 or 70/30 support for Republicans, and in the ‘taker’ class, it was the exact opposite. Almost to the percentage.
Romney and Ryan backed off it politically because it was damaging in September. Romney was incorrect to state 100% correlation in his statement, but he was correct in princple.
And what’s a safe % that will cover the dems voter fraud?
Romney is no Reagan
I hope you are feeling better. I read that Ras was a day behind, is this true?
“This man has been such a bad president ..how is this race even close?”
Look at it this way. Despite the best efforts of the liberal ‘Political-Entertainment-Media-Academic’ complex, we are still winning. Don’t fret. Also, can you remember any major political race in which the final numbers for the Republican weren’t more than what the polls had predicted?
Did RAS up it +5 D?
This actually might be good that things are tightening just before the election - it will not allow people to get complacent and motivate Republicans even more to get out and vote.
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