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Vanity: Time to stop being down in the dumps and start planning for 2014 and 2016
6 November 2012 | Sola Veritas

Posted on 11/06/2012 8:52:31 PM PST by Sola Veritas

OK...so Obama has won reelection. It will be bad, of that there is NO doubt. However, good can come from this.


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Instead of going into a blue flunk of Obama winning reelection it is time to stop whinning and get back to work. The positives that can come from this:

(1) Romney was NOT a conservative....he was merely the anti-Obama. Folks here on FR got way too invested in a candidate that they have known for YEARS was not a conservtive....NOT one of us. It amazed me how otherwise intelligent folks became invested in a poor choice that should NEVER have gotten the nod.

(2) Obama is going to mess things up really bad...especially the economy. Because of this, Conservatives will be able to pick up many more House and Senate seats in 2014 and 2016. If Romney had of been elected, we would have lost seats. Romney may well have hurt the brand of "conservatism."

(3) IF we conservatives can stop devouring each other and develope consensus, we can help ensure a REAL conservative is the candidate for the GOP in 2016. We need to start today on that. NO MORE RINOs picked by the GOP Establishment....in fact it is way past time to throw out the GOPe! They pushed Romney on us, he was a poor choice. They need to go, and future Romneys do as well.

(4) We still have control of the House.

(5) Things are bad, but IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD PEOPLE! We haved survived worse. Somethings to make things better, they have to get worse first.

Sola Veritas

1 posted on 11/06/2012 8:52:35 PM PST by Sola Veritas
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To: Sola Veritas

Pray for wisdom, and God’s grace help and protection.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 8:53:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Get real, there will be no more elections, it will be Muslim ways in 4 years. Obama will be the Saddam Hussein of the U.S. His name will be the only one on the ballott!


3 posted on 11/06/2012 8:54:08 PM PST by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: Sola Veritas

Palin/West 2016.


4 posted on 11/06/2012 8:54:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Sola Veritas
Obama is going to mess things up really bad....

At least we have that to hang on to.

5 posted on 11/06/2012 8:55:23 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Sola Veritas

Palin/West 2016.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 8:55:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Sola Veritas

The problem for Republicans is that they lost conservatives and libertarians. As long as they are a toothless, statist party they will only lose major elections.

If the Republicans clean house and reunite conservatives and libertarians with the GOP, then there is hope.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 8:55:28 PM PST by SoCalConstitutionalist
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To: Sola Veritas
Well said.

Obama's policies will fail. It remains to be seen what result that failure will have. He owns the results now.

As a non-believer myself, it amazes me to see so many Freepers who believe that God is in control being far more despondent tonight than am I.

8 posted on 11/06/2012 8:55:36 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Sola Veritas

Two comments:
We survived 8 years of the Clintons, we can survive 8 years of Obama.
I feel God is telling us we need a Conservative Christian to run.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 8:55:55 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Sola Veritas

Unfortunately, u are wrong.
The country just got taken over by the 47 percenters. And the number
Of takers will continue to grow in the next four years.
This country has crossed a point of no return. The numbers just don’t
Support your optimism. Sorry to say.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:14 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Sola Veritas

There’s only one Savior, and he ain’t in Washington DC.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sola Veritas

The upside? No more blaming Bush. lol. They’ll all try of course, but ain’t gonna fly. It is in al their laps now—the Dems, the media. Watch the fun begin. Employers are now going to start replacing full time employees with part time workers because of Obamacare. I can’t wait to enjoy the fall out of this. Better stock up on the popcorn.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:53 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Sola Veritas

US style Socialism just got stronger. No jobs, government into everything you do.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:11 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Sola Veritas

US style Socialism just got stronger. No jobs, government into everything you do.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:24 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Sola Veritas

We just lost all chances of a balance on SCOTUS, The Constitution died tonight.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:27 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: hole_n_one

Psalms 11 is a good one at this time. Krauthammer was upbeat about our future. BO has many scandals that will rain down on him. Second terms are generally not good. Benghazi will not be forgotten, especially now that he has won. God may be planning a bigger fall from grace for BO than simply losing an election.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:27 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Sola Veritas

Can we finally end this crap about god caring for this country? All that praying was very effective. Anyone who owns a gun store is pumped. Sales will be booming


17 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:33 PM PST by strider44
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To: blondee123

Take that whining and stick it where the sun don’t shine. They are loving posts like yours over at DU.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:36 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’ll kick the ass of the first one who says Chris Christie is our guy for 2016. He’s a Fluken commie DemocRAT. A fat one at that.


19 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (REVENGE WINS!)
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To: blondee123
Get real, there will be no more elections

Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner. No more meaningful elections anyway. Just like the Venezuelans re-elected Chavez. I sincerely apologize to Venezuela. We are as bad as you and have no place to criticize. There will be elections alright, but they will be a joke.

20 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:11 PM PST by scottinoc
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To: Sola Veritas

I’m inclined to believe it wasn’t Romney that was the problem.

The reality is that there simply aren’t enough conservatives left. The only way the GOP is going to be able to remain relevant is continuing to move leftward… Republicans will be a permanent minority party henceforth.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:16 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Sola Veritas

A few thoughts about the election:

1. Although most here were predicting a Romney win, I predicted that Obama would win with 290 electoral votes. Although at this hour the votes haven’t been totaled, it appears that I will be close. Two factors weighed heavily in my mind causing me to think that Obama would win:

a. The polls in most battleground states were leaning in his favor. I have learned over the years that, although there are exceptions, the polls are generally correct.

and

b. Romney’s move to compete in Pennsylvania late in the game was a sign of desperation in my mind. It generally hasn’t worked in the past (e.g., see McCain 2008). It was a “Hail Mary” pass that indicated a lack of confidence in a more typical path to victory.

2. Obama’s election is a serious problem for the country. But, contrary to what most conservatives are saying, I believe that Romney’s nomination might have been worse for conservatives. Historically, Romney has not been a conservative. He has especially not been a social conservative. If he had won, the next four years would have been an argument between liberal American and moderate America, with conservative America either looking on from the sideline or being told to toe the moderate line. The result would have been, not only a leftward drift for the country, but a continued leftward drift for the conservative opposition. Traditional conservatives, particularly social conservatives, would increasingly be marginalized as reactionaries unsuitable to modern society.

3. Can we nominate a conservative in 2016? The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney model is a proven failure.

4. Liberal Republicans hate social conservatives more than they hate Democrats. The greatest enemies of social conservatives are liberal Republicans. Social conservatives who continue to vote for liberal Republicans just because they have an “R” after their name will only encourage establishment Republicans to nominate increasingly liberal candidates in the future. Conservative Republicans are the new “plantation” voters.

5. Long-term strategy is more important than short-term tactics. Those who insist on voting for the lesser of two evils (and who use scare tactics to pressure them into doing so) may occasionally win a short-term victory, but continue the inexorable downward slide in the handbasket on the slippery slope into the cesspool at the bottom. In fact, many of them are already wading hip-deep in that cesspool and saying that it doesn’t smell so bad. I might be drug into that cesspool, but I will never willingly jump in.

6. I’ve caught a lot of flak from conservatives over the last few months because I wouldn’t commit to pulling the lever for Romney. (I actually wrote in Tom Hoefling of the American Independent Party, although it won’t be counted. It just felt better than leaving the line blank, which would have been my other option.) As a social conservative, I would have lost regardless of who won. I will vote for those who earn my vote, not blindly rubberstamp those who want my vote but not my values. I’m sure that I will continue to be criticized by conservatives and liberals alike, but I can live with it. I am at peace with it.

7. As a Christian, I am part of a kingdom that transcends country. Nations rise and fall. I am thankful that, even if America falls and dissolves into the sea, that I am part of a kingdom that is eternal. Politics may be important, but it is not primary. We need to remember that America is not the church, and that no political party is the kingdom of God. We may like America, but we have a better country than America. (“But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one.” -—Hebrews 11:16a)


22 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:33 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Can we nominate a conservative in 2016? The moderate experiment has failed.)
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To: Sola Veritas
2014 and 2016? But I thought we had our sights set on 2020 when Paul Ryan was going to be President...

Because that strategy worked out so well we are celebrating McCaint's re-election tonight.....

or maybe we are celebrating Sarah Palin's win tonight because John was too old?

Man this is so hard to figure out because Conservatives never get to vote for the election at hand.

I say we start a betting pool on when Boehner will first be shown on tv crying like a little b#tch.

23 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:33 PM PST by Repeat Offender (Why do cops have more lenient ROEs when facing us than troops in combat facing suicidal islamists?)
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To: Sola Veritas

Seriously? What’s the point? Conservatism is dead. We had our last chance today, and blew it. The country will be even more liberal in 4 years. Today finished us. We are DONE. The commies have won. Congrats to them.


24 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:41 PM PST by America_Right (I am no longer the 53%. Unemployment sucks! Time to write a book...)
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To: irishtenor

I hate to break it to our FRiends here but 8 years of Clinton is not the same as 8 years of Obamao. It’s just not the same. I think the majority of people in this county have decided to vote for what they want, rather than earn it or figure things out on their own.


25 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:44 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: SoCalConstitutionalist
our way of thinking is GONE....stop thinking this or that....THIS WAS THE LAST CHANCE and its OVER....

no one wants conservative anymore and frankly I don't even know what it means....

keep your personal values if you can....associate with similar minded people...but forget ever changing this country because its OVER....

the Amish have it right...screw modern society and their evil...

26 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:54 PM PST by cherry
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To: Sola Veritas

Christian conservatives need to leave the worthless GOP and start a viable Conservative party. Or at a minimum go independent and refuse to support a party that thrust a New England liberal like Romney down our throats.

I reregistered independent a year ago. A pox on both parties.


27 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:02 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: irishtenor

Eight years of the Clintons is going to look like eight years of Reagan comparatively speaking. Jimmah Carter will look downright CONSERVATIVE by contrast to 4 more years of the Messiah. The military will be gutted to pay for the likes of the Obamaphone fugly “woman” crowd.


28 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:16 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Sola Veritas
Our only hope is that all the Republicans in Congress unite and we truly become "the party of no!" That is, 100% obstructionism, 100% blockage of anything and everything that socialist POS tries to implement. Make executive orders his only option right up to the point where he so obviously steps over the line we can impeach him and throw his backside in prison.

You hear me GOP? 100% obstructionism. Absolutely no compromise on anything or if I am still here in 2 and 4 years, I will vote out every single incumbent.

29 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:31 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Sola Veritas

Rate we’re going: we won’t have elections in 2016.

Dictators are for life.


30 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:38 PM PST by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: SoCalConstitutionalist
It was over until Hurricane Sandy and Fat Ass Chris Christie

I got a feeling a democrat won't get elected dog catcher for a long time.

A Nation of Part time jobs.

31 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:40 PM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Sola Veritas

your #2

Obama already messed things up yet he was re-elected. What does that tell you? that the american people want socialism. They want a leftist type of government. The GOP is dead. Ideas of freedom no longer matter because we have generations being raised and taught in the schools that the Government and Democrats are their friends and republican’s are the evil enemy that want to ruin everything.

America is toast.


32 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:52 PM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (There's a revolution "brewing".....)
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To: irishtenor

Clinton didn’t hate America, and he wasn’t out to destroy us.


33 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:52 PM PST by America_Right (I am no longer the 53%. Unemployment sucks! Time to write a book...)
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To: irishtenor

I was thinking of this earlier - the bible says that things are going to get really bad in the end times - economic disaster, hedonism, you know the drill. I had hoped that it wasn’t going to be now, but maybe you and I were created for such a time as this.

“Be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world.”
-Jesus


34 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:58 PM PST by Pushead (The highways of history are strewn with the wreckage of the nations that forgot God.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Romney was just another Bob Dole and McLame. Until a real conservative becomes a candidate for Prez the conservatives will stay home.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:07 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Sola Veritas

In the mean time, we have to bear all the God dammed liberals gloating. I do hope the GOP holds the line in the house. Ideally, they would really starve all rat senate requests, or at least use that to get them to do what we want. Doubtful, it would require Bohner growing balls, but we can always hope. There are a lot of good conservatives in the House and Senate. We must continue to work on getting more governorship’s. As the saying goes, it’s always darker before the dawn.


36 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:12 PM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: blondee123
Get real, there will be no more elections, it will be Muslim ways in 4 years.

You speak the truth. We need to face up to this now. Some of us wanted to shout from the roof tops that this would be IT........I fear it is... I personally think that this was all rigged well and that Obama knew it and that is why he was so passive. Even his fake tears and " goodbye" last night wasn't real.

We need to put our attention on setting our hearts right with God. That is where it is at.

Revival in the land has always been at the heart of political and social reformation.

37 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:25 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: dfwgator

Correct...and He is in control. That is where we find our hope, no matter who is President.


38 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:33 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: irishtenor

Like George Bush?


39 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’m not “down in the dumps,” but I am going John Galt on these clowns. (And stocking up on stuff I like.)

I was just on the phone to apologize to my Air Force son for allowing the country I inherited to turn socialist on my watch.

Oldplayer


40 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:35 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let it go. Palin will never be President.


41 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:54 PM PST by ConservativeTerrapin (Just defeat Obama)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

We just became a taker society. Greece is coming to America sooner than
Later.


42 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:57 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: blondee123

Exactly! And get ready to see the “reparations” deduction on your paystub (if you still have employment, that is)


43 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:06 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Notary Sojac

As a non-believer myself, it amazes me to see so many Freepers who believe that God is in control being far more despondent tonight than am I.


I think they may be despondent compared to you for the same reason a man is despondent after losing his job and his very young kids don’t understand the gravity of the situation.

Two weeks before the election of 2008 I bought a small farm in central Kentucky. In August of last year I moved here from my home of 45 years, Seattle. I’ve seen what the last four years brought, but they were nothing compared to what will come. The country and world are teetering on the edge now, and there is no solution in sight. It would not have been much better if Romney had won. In fact, maybe we needed Obama to stay in office long enough to remove all doubt about who he is.

When I moved to KY I did it in the spirit of Revelation 18:4. I am not despondent. Rather, I am a student of biblical prophesy. The Lord will prevail and His promise of eternity is real, but His word clearly teaches that it will get worse before it gets better.

In fact, it will be the worst time in the history of mankind, and there have been some pretty bad times. Most people wish to avoid that kind of pain. But only those who see it coming concern themselves about it.


44 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:07 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: tennmountainman

Bingo. My feeling is the country crossed a line today that cannot be crossed back the other way. It is going to get worse. Much worse. And Obama will not be blamed. The Dems will not be blamed. The moochers will not be blamed.The producers will be blamed, especially since we are the minority now and our numbers are shrinking.


45 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:08 PM PST by Rokurota
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To: All
We will all be on pins and needles about the Supreme Court. Obama will probably replace Ginsburg fairly soon. We just have to hope that Kennedy and Scalia stay healthy.

Obamacare is now going to be implemented, and Obama will try to blame the resulting skyrocketing costs and Big Brother intrusions on Republicans. Hopefully we can channel some of the resulting anger to keep the House in 2014 and gain some Senate seats. It looks like we will be down to 43 seats after tonight.

46 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:29 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: irishtenor

There is no hope. And the reason there is no hope is because the electorate has been dumbed down so much that we have passed the point of no return. Another 4 years of the past 4 years and 2-3 supreme court justices leaving will mean the end of the american we have grown up with. There is no way around that. The losers on Facebook cheering for this piece of shit getting elected have me so completely disgusted I don’t know what to do.


47 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:30 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Sola Veritas

I fear the beginning of a very uncivil war between the takers and the rest who actually work.


48 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:48 PM PST by stboz
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To: Sola Veritas

How any republicans plan on winning any presidential election?

I see a lot of states turning more and more blue

what blue states are turning red? NONE

It’s only going to get worse as the years go on. they have total control of the media.


49 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:53 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: irishtenor

The problem is that Obama will get to make 3-5 USSC appointments, Look at the older justices: Kennedy, Scalia, Ginsberg & Breyer.

If he gets those appointments the country is screwed.


50 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by Leto
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