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Romney wins white vote by same margin as Reagan did in 1980 landslide
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Posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:31 AM PST by MNDude

Mitt Romney won white voters by 20 points in today’s presidential election, according to exit polls, which is the same margin that Ronald Reagan won that demographic by in his 1980 landslide over Jimmy Carter. But given that white voters are a smaller percentage of the electorate these days and he’s doing poorly among minority voters, Romney is on the cusp of losing the election. In 1980, Reagan won white voters 56 percent to 36 percent, with third party candidate John Anderson taking 8 percent of the vote. He ended up beating Carter by 10 points and winning 44 states.

Romney has won white voters by the same 20-point margin, 59 percent to 39 percent. But the big difference is that in 1980, whites were 88 percent of the electorate, whereas in this election, they were just 73 percent.

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1 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:40 AM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude

This is going to grow.

A candidate who talked about using the voting booth as a tool for revenge would have been ran out of office in 1980.

Today, he gets re-elected. Because that growing demographic believes they are entitled to revenge against what ever group they are told have oppressed them.

Guess who will be in the streets rioting and destroying when the checks don’t and can’t come , anymore?


2 posted on 11/07/2012 6:28:40 AM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: MNDude

Anyone who thinks the lesson learned by Republicans will be that they weren’t conservative enough is fooling himselve. Anyone who thinks that third parties will be anything other than ankle biters is also fooling himselve. Republicans will have to find a way to attract the Latinos who have some conservative values and also black Christians.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 6:31:33 AM PST by bkepley
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To: LMAO

A possible counterpoint to the demographics hypothesis… Romney netted less of the raw popular vote than McCain in ‘08, and Obama got less than Bush in ‘04.

https://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results

Unless there’s a few more million votes out there waiting to be tabulated.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 6:33:53 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: bkepley

They don’t have the SAME conservative values. Not going to make a blanket statement for all Latinos or family-first type blacks, but there is a huge “me-first” or entitlement mentality among a huge number. You can’t assume that because there is a value on having children and family in general that they are conservative politically. To some, one thing has nothing to do with the other.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 6:36:50 AM PST by 1L
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To: 1L

I’m saying Republicans will need to find a way to appeal to them. They have no choice.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 6:56:55 AM PST by bkepley
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To: MNDude

One of the things that this observation inevitably fails to bring up is that there are people who considered themselves “white” in 1980 who are now counted as “Hispanic” and there are plenty of “Hispanic” people who are every bit as “white” as plenty of other people who are counted as white.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 6:58:41 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: MNDude

One of the things that this observation inevitably fails to bring up is that there are people who considered themselves “white” in 1980 who are now counted as “Hispanic” and there are plenty of “Hispanic” people who are every bit as “white” as plenty of other people who are counted as white.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 6:58:52 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: MNDude

For 30 years, the frauds from both parties flooded the country with tens of millions of socialist foreigners and illegal aliens...While the corrupt big gov public schools totally brain washed the youngsters.

And now everyone is surprised?


9 posted on 11/07/2012 7:08:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MNDude

Whites in the US will go the same way as whites in Africa, be afraid.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 7:19:47 AM PST by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: bkepley
Republicans will have to find a way to attract the Latinos who have some conservative values and also black Christians.

I think you may be right, but it will be a very tough nut for most on this board to swallow. Latinos will not come along until they can get green cards for their family members. And I do think a serious outreach needs to be made to black preachers (not the Jeremiah Wright kind, the actual Bible-believing kind). They have been on the cutting edge of this societal decay for many decades, and should be our best allies in trying to combat it.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 7:23:05 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MNDude

For two decades there has been an all out effort to flood the nation with Mexicans, Chinese, and every variety of muslim. The GOP was eyeballs deep in this.
Bush threw the door open for 8 years.

Now the fun begins, thanks A-holes.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 7:25:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bkepley
I’m saying Republicans will need to find a way to appeal to them. They have no choice.

If it involves compromising on principle, I'd rather lose. I don't know aboaut you, or anybody else, but I am a conoservative first, and a Republican only so long as they are my best shot.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 7:27:03 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Utmost Certainty

“Romney netted less of the raw popular vote than McCain in ‘08”

So did Obama. He got less votes than McCain did. Romney got about 3.7 million fewer than McCain. The women and minorities of America screwed us good. But ultimately, the “stay at home” repubs who didn’t vote gave us ObamaII.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 7:29:34 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: dragnet2

“flooded the country with tens of millions of socialist foreigners and illegal aliens...While the corrupt big gov public schools totally brain washed the youngsters.”

Exactly! And though everyone always says “my 20 year old kid is super conservative”, thats not the trend. Most people would be shocked if they knew the thinking of something like 75 or 80% of what kids who graduated in the last 15 years think.

They think it’s a kinda cool to be gay and happily mingle with them. In every TV show they watch, the gay is the smartest, hippest, funniest character. They are solidly for abortion. They will openly say they think socialism is totally fine. They actually are for socialism. They have a deep smoldering hatred for anything traditionally “American”.

Many conservatives have no idea of what the under 30 crowd truly thinks.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 7:38:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bkepley

This is not hard math. Latinos and African-Americans are both demographics to be mined by the GOP, but the party elite have been content to ignore for some time. Latinos would be easy to sway on social issues due to their Catholic faith and economic issues as many Latinos are self employed small businessmen. Similarly the African-American community is fairly conservative on issues of life and marriage... but the GOP ignored these people at their own peril.

There’s a reason the Obama administration moved fast to freeze, then destroy Republican candidates like Herman Cain and Rick Santorum. Both candidates were articulate and were able to present clear Conservative messages on social issues. Obama feared both because Cain presented a pigment problem, and Santorum presented a Catholic problem.

Imagine Herman Cain taking the stage on the evening of the GOP convention floor, laying out a clear, fiscally Conservative message to the country. Suddenly MSNBC and the MSM look stupid if they try to paint the GOP as racist. Imagine Cain speaking at the NAACP... you don’t think that would have moved the meter at all. Sure Obama would have won that demographic decisively, but there’s a big difference between 92% and 83%.

Santorum would have been able to address the “War on Women” in very clear and decisive terms and would have presented the Obamacare HHS mandate in clear terms which would definitely have swayed the Catholic vote. Romney danced around this issue. He talked about it in the primaries, but once he won the nomination he referred to it in very oblique terms like “religious liberty” rather than calling out the mandate and blasting away at the artificial “War on Women.”

I doubt the party learns its lesson, but who knows.

Yancy


16 posted on 11/07/2012 7:55:48 AM PST by gallandro1
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To: MNDude

The demographics are changing.

Part of it is Romney’s liberalism - he is a nice guy I’m sure but being a nice guy doesn’t win you elections and conservatives are lousy at outreach to women and minorities.

You can no longer win national election with white men alone - it ain’t enough.

And being as liberal as the Democrats are ain’t a winning strategy.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:25:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MNDude

And Obama was elected by the same people who voted for JFK,wonder if the names will be checked?.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:52:06 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Utmost Certainty

“Romney netted less of the raw popular vote than McCain”

Not in the swing states.

But in the states where Obama won by double digits in 2008 many people didn’t bother to vote.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 3:44:19 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: MNDude

I still think something’s funny about those numbers. I think this election was stolen.

And I’m one who was called a CONCERNED TROLL by the Romneybots because I suggested that we take the pre-election polling data seriously (just in case) and my hastag: Keep Working Like we Are 10 points behind”

Polling numbers aside, there is NO WAY this man could have won an election after such a miserable 4 years as President.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 3:49:06 AM PST by tsowellfan
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