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Need Advice on Purchase of Automatic Weapon

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:12 PM PST by Tail Gunner John

I have now gotten religion on the need to purchase my first automatic rifle. I have very little personal experience to draw upon in making my selection. I'm looking for an economical but reliable weapon. My goal is to buy the rifle and lay in a reasonable supply of ammunition for less than $1000. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.


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To: Tail Gunner John

For this money, the closest thing you can do is get a “SlideFire” stock, which is a controlled way of doing the bump fire techniques, and having had one I know it works. Here is my brother shooting a semi-automatic AK74 with the Slidefire stock:
http://youtu.be/eXU3-H0jaSA


41 posted on 11/09/2012 5:42:38 PM PST by vicdoc
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To: Tail Gunner John

I can start with LOL.

You need to research this a little better. Class III license will eat up 2/3rds of your budget, then your DROS.

Then go to Gunbroker.com and see what you can get for around $2,500 that’s reliable.

You’re also going to need a tool kit to maintain your weapon.

There’s a bunch of other things you need to consider and a couple hundred rounds to practice will cost $.25 cents per round to $1.50 or more depending on what arm you eventually settle on.

Good luck....


42 posted on 11/09/2012 5:43:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: FreedomForce

I don’t know.
I have seen guys bump fire saiga 12’s but I bet its a bitch.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 5:44:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: umgud

All of the above...


44 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mylife

See post 38. The recoil almost pushes the guy out of frame.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 5:48:24 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Class III AR-15 full-auto, suppressed, will cost $5-7,000 easy, if you can find a good one. I have several, plus Class III AR-10s and won’t part with any.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 5:48:59 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

PS - That was 2001 prices. They’ll be well-upwards of $13-15k, if you can even find one, in this day and time.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 5:52:37 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: FreedomForce

Hawhoo!


48 posted on 11/09/2012 5:54:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RobinOfKingston; Tail Gunner John

No, if he doesn’t have enough firearms experience to even get the get the terminology right, he needs to take a class on how to operate a firearm safely before someone gets hurt.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 5:56:52 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: vicdoc

I bet it works better on an AK 74 than an Ak 47, but I think the short stock on the AK makes it difficult to use proficiently.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 6:01:27 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FreedomForce

Yow, that looks like some fun w/12ga!


51 posted on 11/09/2012 6:05:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

You don’t find it strange that the OP started a thread with a vague undefined term, no further elucidation on it and hasn’t replied once? I’m sure your superior brilliance will enlighten us all about that. ROFTLOL


52 posted on 11/09/2012 6:12:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Since you are starting out, I recommend a Ruger 10/22, available for under $250:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_59_79/products_id/70280/Ruger+1022+Standard+22LR%2C+Blued%2C+Hardwood+1022RB

Then buy a lot of 22 ammo:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/337297/cci-ar-tactical-rimfire-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-plated-round-nose-box-of-375

1000 rounds costs about $60. I’d suggest buying 5,000 rounds for a start. That puts your total cost at around $550.

When you run out of ammo, you will A) be a decent shot, but not great, and B) be ready to spend a bit more for a higher power gun. But the 22 is the basis for good shooting, because it is the only way to shoot enough cheap enough to get good at shooting.

And if I was a bad guy, I would NOT want to face 10 rounds of 22 ammo fired in about 5 seconds. And with very little practice, you could aim for the face...


53 posted on 11/09/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

You should have bought a semi-auto AR-15 about 6 months ago...prices will be jacked up from now until they ban them.I paid too much ($1100.00)in 2008 and I still have it and glad I did...Because right now I couldn’t afford it. You need to jump through a lot of hoops to get the license for full auto. So buy semi and convert if you feel the need when the SHTF. By then the law won’t matter.


54 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:29 PM PST by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: RobinOfKingston; Tail Gunner John
Thanks for the good reply and helping the guy out with his terminology and with his question.

For a first rifle of any caliber, a Ruger 10/22 is hard to beat, and it's a "semiauto". Probably fits the $1000 budget for rifle, scope, case, cleaning kit, tools, eye and ear protection, and gun club membership, (at least here in my hometown), and some money left over for maybe a couple, or maybe several, 500 round bricks of ammo.

55 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:47 PM PST by OKSooner ("I will bless those who bless thee, and I will curse those who curse thee.")
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To: Tail Gunner John

Obviously you mean a semi-auto.


56 posted on 11/09/2012 6:21:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: mylife

Tried my buddy’s recently...I was surprised how well it works.


57 posted on 11/09/2012 6:22:46 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (My carry permit was issued in 1791.)
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To: Errant

I can still disassemble and reassemble an M-60 blindfolded. It’s been over 20 years.


58 posted on 11/09/2012 6:25:58 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Mr Rogers

I plan on getting a sig mosquito tomorrow. I’m gonna have fun with this one.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/mosquito.aspx


59 posted on 11/09/2012 6:26:13 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: SirLurkedalot

It Rocks!


60 posted on 11/09/2012 6:55:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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