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Need Advice on Purchase of Automatic Weapon

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:12 PM PST by Tail Gunner John

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To: FreedomForce

Yow, that looks like some fun w/12ga!


51 posted on 11/09/2012 6:05:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

You don’t find it strange that the OP started a thread with a vague undefined term, no further elucidation on it and hasn’t replied once? I’m sure your superior brilliance will enlighten us all about that. ROFTLOL


52 posted on 11/09/2012 6:12:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Since you are starting out, I recommend a Ruger 10/22, available for under $250:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_59_79/products_id/70280/Ruger+1022+Standard+22LR%2C+Blued%2C+Hardwood+1022RB

Then buy a lot of 22 ammo:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/337297/cci-ar-tactical-rimfire-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-plated-round-nose-box-of-375

1000 rounds costs about $60. I’d suggest buying 5,000 rounds for a start. That puts your total cost at around $550.

When you run out of ammo, you will A) be a decent shot, but not great, and B) be ready to spend a bit more for a higher power gun. But the 22 is the basis for good shooting, because it is the only way to shoot enough cheap enough to get good at shooting.

And if I was a bad guy, I would NOT want to face 10 rounds of 22 ammo fired in about 5 seconds. And with very little practice, you could aim for the face...


53 posted on 11/09/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

You should have bought a semi-auto AR-15 about 6 months ago...prices will be jacked up from now until they ban them.I paid too much ($1100.00)in 2008 and I still have it and glad I did...Because right now I couldn’t afford it. You need to jump through a lot of hoops to get the license for full auto. So buy semi and convert if you feel the need when the SHTF. By then the law won’t matter.


54 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:29 PM PST by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: RobinOfKingston; Tail Gunner John
Thanks for the good reply and helping the guy out with his terminology and with his question.

For a first rifle of any caliber, a Ruger 10/22 is hard to beat, and it's a "semiauto". Probably fits the $1000 budget for rifle, scope, case, cleaning kit, tools, eye and ear protection, and gun club membership, (at least here in my hometown), and some money left over for maybe a couple, or maybe several, 500 round bricks of ammo.

55 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:47 PM PST by OKSooner ("I will bless those who bless thee, and I will curse those who curse thee.")
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To: Tail Gunner John

Obviously you mean a semi-auto.


56 posted on 11/09/2012 6:21:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: mylife

Tried my buddy’s recently...I was surprised how well it works.


57 posted on 11/09/2012 6:22:46 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (My carry permit was issued in 1791.)
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To: Errant

I can still disassemble and reassemble an M-60 blindfolded. It’s been over 20 years.


58 posted on 11/09/2012 6:25:58 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Mr Rogers

I plan on getting a sig mosquito tomorrow. I’m gonna have fun with this one.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/mosquito.aspx


59 posted on 11/09/2012 6:26:13 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: SirLurkedalot

It Rocks!


60 posted on 11/09/2012 6:55:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Errant

As they said in the Texas War of Independence, “Come and Get It...”


61 posted on 11/09/2012 6:59:10 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: makersmk2013

The 1000 rds for 349$ is 223 stuff, not 308. 1000 rds of 308 runs ya 5-700$. So choose wisely grasshopper!


62 posted on 11/09/2012 7:00:19 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: King Moonracer; Salamander
"I need a small thermo nuclear weapon. Any advice?"

You should properly address that question to Dinsdale Piranha. (Just keep an eye out for Spiney Norman!)


63 posted on 11/09/2012 7:11:00 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Well, that one went right over my head.

[can’t brain today...I’ve got the dumb]


64 posted on 11/09/2012 7:17:17 PM PST by Salamander (Welcome To Thunderdome.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

I haven’t priced an AR-15 in recent days but I’d be surprised that you can find one in stock under $1000 right now.


65 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:08 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: Tail Gunner John

I haven’t priced an AR-15 in recent days but I’d be surprised that you can find one in stock under $1000 right now.


66 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:25 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: Salamander; King Moonracer

If you haven’t seen them, they are well worth the few minutes to watch.

The reference to the nuclear weapon is in there - somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg2KlicnOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=evj24bXakqg&feature=endscreen


67 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:48 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

You’re asking for gun advice on Free Republic? What the hell kind of tail gunner are you, anyway?


68 posted on 11/09/2012 7:28:47 PM PST by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: Salamander

The reference is in the second video at 3:14.


69 posted on 11/09/2012 7:30:00 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi
Dinsdale
70 posted on 11/09/2012 7:30:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I wouldn't own a full auto in a caliber smaller than .20mm. Waste, in my opinion. Besides, I'm poor now, and don't run in those circles with guys that spend $5000US for a weekend of shooting anymore. ;)

Same here except maybe for a Thompson or Uzi in urban environs. Seems to be a great tool for keeping heads down. WWII GIs and Israeli commandos can't be all wrong. ;)

71 posted on 11/09/2012 7:30:48 PM PST by Errant
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To: Mr Fuji

Many ARs on the online sites are “Out of Stock” already.

Same with AKs.


72 posted on 11/09/2012 7:33:16 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: richardtavor
"Come and Get It...”

You reminded me of a message left for the Union troops on a Steamboat sunk cross-ways in the Red above Alexandria, "Y'all all invited to the big dance in Shreveport..."

73 posted on 11/09/2012 7:35:28 PM PST by Errant
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To: SargeK

And I have trouble letting the dog out at night without tripping. ;)


74 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:47 PM PST by Errant
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To: eyedigress

I was looking at one of those. But I didn’t have any guns small enough to carry in the summer, so I spent my money on a S&W 649. Very similar to the Model 60 I used to own before my oldest daughter took it, but with a shrouded hammer.

Enjoy the gun. I’ll bet it will be fun!


75 posted on 11/09/2012 7:39:05 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Errant
I'm happy enough with Clem and rifle support in close quarters.

I would own a Thomson, if I was wealthy again, with the Cutts compensator, for historical reference. I wouldn't actually use it. Cleaning would be a stone cold... problem.

Clem and aimed fire work well enough for me and mine.

/johnny

76 posted on 11/09/2012 7:48:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2111USMC

I guess it’s like 2008 all over again, except this time Obamao will push “gun control” legislation in his next term. He may have to wait until 2014 but it will come.

I was thinking about purchasing a couple of handguns and a long gun earlier this year but really didn’t want to pony up the money. Times are tougher and the money is tough for us to come by.

I bought a S&W AR-15 in 2008 that I can’t hit anything with, no matter how much range time I put in, using the iron sights. I might sell it while the prices are higher to fund my handgun purchases.


77 posted on 11/09/2012 7:54:17 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: jwalsh07

LOL! Hey, he’s looking for a new gig. He knows what he did was lucrative, why not try it again?


78 posted on 11/09/2012 8:01:33 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm pretty sure the Thompsons during the 30’s are what started the rukus with fully automatics.

I believe a semi-auto Thompson is still in production. Cheaper ones have aluminum receivers; steel costs over $1k.

Not likely that I'll pick one up. Have been looking into a mechtech upper for a Clock in .45 caliber though. My son has one for the Clock 9mm and turned it into a sweet shooting little carbine.

79 posted on 11/09/2012 8:19:15 PM PST by Errant
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To: Mr Rogers

They have a threaded model for 40 bucks more. A silencer isn’t cheap.


80 posted on 11/09/2012 11:46:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Tail Gunner John

Semi-auto (what you probably meant) not as reliable as bolt action, but many decent ones if you shop around. Many pawn shops have a decent gun section. Might find a deal at a gun show. Expect to pay upwards of $350 for something that’s just decent (unless it’s a .22 LR) and ammo is getting expensive for most weapons that actually pack a punch. I would suggest a .22 rifle with scope (or two as they are really versatile), a 12 or 16 gauge shotgun with alternating buckshot/slug configuration for the home, and a few decent handguns. Fill an ammo box and have enough ammo to “overflow into a couple drawers/spare mags, etc.


81 posted on 11/10/2012 4:51:35 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Tail Gunner John

For home defense if your on the cheap like a lot of people now check out the Hi Point carbines in 9,40, 0r 45 cal. I said I would never own one because the pistols are heavy and ugly but they are some of the most dependable guns I have ever fired. The carbines are fantastic! I have tried to make mine jam loaded the clips Hollow point- round nose- flat nosed stagger in the clips and never a jam in 1000s of rounds!

Out to 75 yards deadly accurate any more the heavy short bullets start to be off but would still get the job done if you made a hit.


82 posted on 11/10/2012 5:20:13 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Mr Fuji

Maybe you should try putting some glass on it.

Either a mid-power scope or a red dot perhaps.


83 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:43 AM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: King Moonracer

I recommend the “Davy Crockett” system & a shovel .
The shovel will come in handy since the blast radius is roughly equal to the maximum range of the launcher.


84 posted on 11/12/2012 2:01:40 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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