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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:16 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
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Get yourself a well made AK-47. Not terribly expensive. Rock solid reliable. Inexpensive ammo. Now many would say they are not accurate. I suggest the AK-47 shoots straighter than most people can. I doubt you could get the great optics that can be obtained for the AR platform but I am not certain about that as I have not searched for any.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 5:26:21 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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For this money, the closest thing you can do is get a “SlideFire” stock, which is a controlled way of doing the bump fire techniques, and having had one I know it works. Here is my brother shooting a semi-automatic AK74 with the Slidefire stock:
http://youtu.be/eXU3-H0jaSA


41 posted on 11/09/2012 5:42:38 PM PST by vicdoc
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I can start with LOL.

You need to research this a little better. Class III license will eat up 2/3rds of your budget, then your DROS.

Then go to Gunbroker.com and see what you can get for around $2,500 that’s reliable.

You’re also going to need a tool kit to maintain your weapon.

There’s a bunch of other things you need to consider and a couple hundred rounds to practice will cost $.25 cents per round to $1.50 or more depending on what arm you eventually settle on.

Good luck....


42 posted on 11/09/2012 5:43:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Class III AR-15 full-auto, suppressed, will cost $5-7,000 easy, if you can find a good one. I have several, plus Class III AR-10s and won’t part with any.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 5:48:59 PM PST by Carriage Hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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Since you are starting out, I recommend a Ruger 10/22, available for under $250:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_59_79/products_id/70280/Ruger+1022+Standard+22LR%2C+Blued%2C+Hardwood+1022RB

Then buy a lot of 22 ammo:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/337297/cci-ar-tactical-rimfire-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-plated-round-nose-box-of-375

1000 rounds costs about $60. I’d suggest buying 5,000 rounds for a start. That puts your total cost at around $550.

When you run out of ammo, you will A) be a decent shot, but not great, and B) be ready to spend a bit more for a higher power gun. But the 22 is the basis for good shooting, because it is the only way to shoot enough cheap enough to get good at shooting.

And if I was a bad guy, I would NOT want to face 10 rounds of 22 ammo fired in about 5 seconds. And with very little practice, you could aim for the face...


53 posted on 11/09/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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You should have bought a semi-auto AR-15 about 6 months ago...prices will be jacked up from now until they ban them.I paid too much ($1100.00)in 2008 and I still have it and glad I did...Because right now I couldn’t afford it. You need to jump through a lot of hoops to get the license for full auto. So buy semi and convert if you feel the need when the SHTF. By then the law won’t matter.


54 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:29 PM PST by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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Obviously you mean a semi-auto.


56 posted on 11/09/2012 6:21:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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I haven’t priced an AR-15 in recent days but I’d be surprised that you can find one in stock under $1000 right now.


65 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:08 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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I haven’t priced an AR-15 in recent days but I’d be surprised that you can find one in stock under $1000 right now.


66 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:25 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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You’re asking for gun advice on Free Republic? What the hell kind of tail gunner are you, anyway?


68 posted on 11/09/2012 7:28:47 PM PST by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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Semi-auto (what you probably meant) not as reliable as bolt action, but many decent ones if you shop around. Many pawn shops have a decent gun section. Might find a deal at a gun show. Expect to pay upwards of $350 for something that’s just decent (unless it’s a .22 LR) and ammo is getting expensive for most weapons that actually pack a punch. I would suggest a .22 rifle with scope (or two as they are really versatile), a 12 or 16 gauge shotgun with alternating buckshot/slug configuration for the home, and a few decent handguns. Fill an ammo box and have enough ammo to “overflow into a couple drawers/spare mags, etc.


81 posted on 11/10/2012 4:51:35 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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For home defense if your on the cheap like a lot of people now check out the Hi Point carbines in 9,40, 0r 45 cal. I said I would never own one because the pistols are heavy and ugly but they are some of the most dependable guns I have ever fired. The carbines are fantastic! I have tried to make mine jam loaded the clips Hollow point- round nose- flat nosed stagger in the clips and never a jam in 1000s of rounds!

Out to 75 yards deadly accurate any more the heavy short bullets start to be off but would still get the job done if you made a hit.


82 posted on 11/10/2012 5:20:13 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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