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Congratulations to Jim Robinson for His Political Sagacity Overwhelmingly Accurate

Posted on 11/10/2012 3:00:14 PM PST by lbryce

The maelstrom of political controversy regarding Free Republic founder Jim Robinson and his attitude towards the then Republican presidential candidate front runner and odds-on favorite to win the nomination, as anointed by the msm as the weakest candidate in the Repuplican field, was one punctuated by severe criticism of Mr. Robinson for his uncompromising, vituperative take-no-prisoners stance towards the liberal bent, RINO candidate Mr. Romney,as unacceptable under any circumstances as Republican Party nominee in the 2012 presidential election.

While his intensely vociferous stance against Mr. Romney surprised, confused, alienated many, the political rationale for the utter blanket rejection of Mr. Romney as candidate was one that remained fundamentally true to the principles of Conservatism, in that Mr.Romney in his record of being a liberal-bent, RINO, had not earned the right to wear the crown as Repubican party nominee as champion, defender of party principles, when he espouses liberal policies that true Republican conservatives find particularly galling equally unacceptable.

In the end, months after the controversy had died down,the election of 2012 having ended, it comes as no surprise to have ended in the manner in which Mr. Robinson did all that he could and more, the sagacity and prescience in which he had already determined the outcome to the election is one in which should teach us all not to repeat the mistakes of the past and to heed those we have faith and admiration for in their reading of the political map and and its various minefields.


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To: lbryce

51 posted on 11/10/2012 4:03:59 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: lbryce

Jim was correct. But it was the R party primaries that selected Gov. Romney (and most people thought his choice of Sen. Ryan was a pretty good one, too). Some of the other R candidates got torpedoed almost overnight, rather than running the course and seeing which one was the most popular. So, that is an issue — how do we prevent such things from happening in future so that we are really permitted a choice of all R candidates? Second issue for the future: is Ronald Reagan’s “11th commandment” worth reviewing and, perhaps, resurrecting — at least in some measure or form, so that the R candidates do not form a circular firing squad and, basically, torpedo the eventual nominee from within the R party itself? (And how could any such policy be enforced if, say, one or two primary candidates were to violate it next time? If it can’t be enforced then maybe it is not worth a lot of time to debate?
Just asking. I regret I do not have answers...but I bet some people here DO....so have at it please....
Meanwhile, alas, let’s all see if we can somehow help USA survive the next 4 years .....


52 posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:28 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: lbryce

The committee is FedEx-ing it on Monday. Signature not required. LOL.


53 posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:49 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted... it's over.)
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To: livius
NO MORE OLD RETREADS!

That's exactly what Newt was. Hell, he isn't conservative either.

54 posted on 11/10/2012 4:10:26 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: KeyLargo
The RAT party is singing the same old song - the Latinos hate us & we hate them. How about we want those borders closed because terrorists from anywhere in the world can come to this country to accomplish their mission.

Latinos are not the only ones crossing that border. The terrorists are not going to sort out the Latinos from the rest of us!! We'll all die together.

55 posted on 11/10/2012 4:10:33 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: ari-freedom
Our field was even weaker than 2008.

Yup, conservatives didn't have a puppy in this fight.

56 posted on 11/10/2012 4:13:53 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: svxdave

I don’t understand why you would succumb to such hysteria or the belief of conspiracy that it was Jim Robinson who wrote the first post while the statement you made is the furtherest thing in the world. It is, I, lbryce who thought of the idea to congratulate Jim, and so i did. END OF STORY.


57 posted on 11/10/2012 4:14:54 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: prisoner6

Romney was simply the candidate that was chose by the Republican Party establishment.

I’m sure that Romeny is a fine man good father, good businessman, and good citizen, he was simply too vulnerable for the creation of RomenyCare and many of the very socialist things he did as governor of the People’s Republic of Massachusetts.

Rove, as an adviser to the Romeny campaign and master of moving the middle, had in fact swung many of the those in the middle to our side. Rove has always taken the stance that it is better to pander to the “undecideds” than to secure the base, thinking that the base has nowhere else to go.

Rove was able to move the middle in 2000 and 2004 and get Bush elected. Those of us on the right knew that Bush was a fine man, but had his shortcomings. Most notable was Michael Savage’s Compassionate Conservativeism. We accepted these and voted for him twice.

Bush was the right man for 2001 and when the attacks came in September, showed his metal.

However, it was a mistake to go into Afghanistan. We should have paid the Russians to clear out Afghanistan with a complete gloves off do what needs to be done approach with whatever tactical support necessary to complete the mission and bring us bin Laden, Mullah Omar, Zawahiri, etc. heads on a pikes.

Once that was completed we needed to enlist the Russians again to clean up their own Islamic problems before we went into Iraq. Between the Russians in Afghanistan and the US in Iraq together we could have crushed Iran like a walnut.

Back to the topic at hand, Romeny is a fine man, just not the right man at this time. He was far to patrician in his approach to the campaign. He didn’t want to get down and dirty, and he needed to be like Gingrich in a bloody knuckles street brawl with the gangbanger campaign of the DemocRATS.

That was his true weakness. His niceness. And there is no doubt in my mind that Mitt Romney is probably the nicest man you could ever meet. We all know the saying.... nice guys finish last.

And so it goes, we have let the Patricians decide the candidate, and then proceed by Marquis of Queensbury boxing rules in a street rumble.

Limbaugh let himself get sucked in by a political activist who literally was targeting him for destruction. The ensuing mess was the whole point of Ms. Fluke’s comments....it’s not that she was kvetching about the availability of Birth Control Pills or even the price. The target was Limbaugh. He was targeted and played by his own passions for propriety. They tried to economically assassinate him and almost succeeded.

So the question is...when will we play the game the way the democRATS play it? Because if we don’t we are DOOMED. And it may already be too late.


58 posted on 11/10/2012 4:19:18 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: TBall
I live in the DC area and find it strange that the number of Obama bumper stickers has seemingly gone up five fold since the election.

You ain't kidding! I noticed that too!

59 posted on 11/10/2012 4:20:55 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ari-freedom

I agree, it was a very weak field and having said that - all politicians are flawed. We won’t get 100% of what we want in a candidate. However, I also remember George Soros saying there was no difference between Obama and Romney. From this chart and stances, that seems to be true. I guess we thought we could hold his feet to the fire if elected. I’m not sure that would have worked, because he would have been untouchable by most of us -just like zero is.

I wanted Sarah Palin, but she wisely chose not to run. They totally destroyed her. Yet, I believe those missing 3 million were Palin supporters. I keep thinking of what I heard during the 2008 election that the Romney camp was behind the smears on her. I don’t know if that’s true, but, I wouldn’t doubt it. They wanted to clear the playing field for their RINO.

It makes me sick that Mitt could destroy our candidates during the primary, yet, wouldn’t lay a glove on zero. Just like McCain did.

Oh well, we are stuck with this mess for another 4 years. One consolation is that zero can’t run again, so that will level the field between 2 new candidates who will start out on equal footing during the primaries in 2016. That’s providing, of course, that we have another election.


60 posted on 11/10/2012 4:21:40 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Jim Robinson

I think also that most don’t believe the House is as important as the Senate and WH. This reflects once again to the fact that voters are truly dumbed down in our society.


61 posted on 11/10/2012 4:23:51 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: lbryce

So after Mitt was chosen all republicans should have chosen Obama?

Is that you Rachael Maddow?


62 posted on 11/10/2012 4:25:12 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: TBall

Maybe this was part of the DEMS strategy. Make it look like obama’s support was way down and then hit us with a whammy on election day. Heck, they may have even told supporters to stay home from the campaign rallies to make us think he was losing support. I don’t put anything past these crooks.


63 posted on 11/10/2012 4:26:19 PM PST by Catsrus
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64 posted on 11/10/2012 4:33:20 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: KeyLargo

That’s a perfectly fair question.

If I don’t answer tonight please ping me, and I wil answer first thing.


65 posted on 11/10/2012 4:35:28 PM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Catsrus

I was thinking the same thing, but more likely the stickers have been encouraged since the election. Giving them out at bars, events, ect...


66 posted on 11/10/2012 4:39:03 PM PST by TBall
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I just can't understand from where you are able to conjure up such utterly fallacious observations of my comments. The fact is, try to remain focused on my points. It was Jim Robinson who made a distinct request to please not to consider Romney as nominee, As founder of FR I've congratulated him for the accuracy if his decision

How does praising Jim Robinson make any insight intellectual observation by others less important. Please, I would love to hear your answer, as if you could ever conjure up one that makes even the slightest sense.

67 posted on 11/10/2012 4:40:15 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce

So true, I remember all those people quiting because during the primary we wouldn’t allow attacks on other canidates and Romney Propaganda.

I still don’t think the GOP have learned their lesson, I think the GOP might have finally jumped their last shark.

Unfortunitly we need these weak kneed republicans to hold the line in the house to ensure that freedom holds in this country.

I say to you fellow freepers, what is more important. Your paper currency and the theft of others labor for your benefit or the freedom to live your life without threat, coercion, or limitations on your liberty??


68 posted on 11/10/2012 4:42:15 PM PST by dila813
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To: newzjunkey

You’re wrong imo but we wont ever know if any of the other candidates for the gop would have won because of the RINOS constantly picking our candidates with their open primaries.The gop is not the party of conservatives.Screw the gop.


69 posted on 11/10/2012 4:44:05 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson

[ Paraphrasing Ann Coulter, “electable” gave us Dole, McCain and Romney. Voting for the “unelectable crazy conservative” gave us Reagan! ]

RIGHT............................

CRAZY = Doing the same thing over and over again expecting something to change..


70 posted on 11/10/2012 4:47:29 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Okay. I’ve been outed. Jim Robinson and I are brother-in-laws. And my job is to place some incredibly laudatory articles about Jim to make him look as good as possible. You are corcect.


71 posted on 11/10/2012 4:49:59 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: LADY J

My suggestion in my Blog for how Conservatives should go forward.

Two Good Things, and It’s a Stretch, About the Re-Election of President Obama
http://patfish.blogspot.com/2012/10/two-good-things-and-its-stretch-about.html

Below the Freep thread of the above, but includes commentary by other Freepers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2957530/posts


72 posted on 11/10/2012 4:51:47 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: lbryce; Jim Robinson
I just can't understand from where you are able to conjure up such utterly fallacious observations of my comments.

I an not the only one, see other comments on this thread.

The fact is, try to remain focused on my points. It was Jim Robinson who made a distinct request to please not to consider Romney as nominee, As founder of FR I've congratulated him for the accuracy if his decision

I, as many others on this site had no say so what so ever as to who the nominee would be. I detested and still detest Romney. I don't need any one to tell me what is or isn't the right choice as apparently you do.

What you evidently lack is the under standing that there are great minds her that don't need his imprimatur either, your thesis is an affront to those people.

How does praising Jim Robinson make any insight intellectual observation by others less important.

See above.

If you cannot step back and realize in reality what just happened in this election then there is no need for further conversation.

Your insinuation that Jim is the sole arbiter of Conservative opinion is at least an insult to independent thought and suggest lemming type mentality of the left.

Sorry if you don't see it or disagree.

I respect Jim's opinions and mostly agree with his approach to political matters, how ever he is not my "guiding light"

73 posted on 11/10/2012 4:55:25 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Newt was probably the only real conservative, and he wasn’t a retread and had never run for President before.

Actually, the only retread was Romney. The GOP always gives it to somebody whose turn it is, and Romney had been running for the last eight years so they figured it was his turn.


74 posted on 11/10/2012 4:58:13 PM PST by livius
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To: newzjunkey

Close, but no cigar! Romney would not have been MY choice, either. But he LOST, because you can’t beat Santa Claus. They voted for free stuff, including contraceptives, and for the right to murder their unborn babies....oh yeah, and obama phones.


75 posted on 11/10/2012 5:06:08 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: livius
Newt was probably the only real conservative

I don't know what your definition of conservative is, but mine doesn't include philanderer, fence-sitter and bloviating gasbag.

76 posted on 11/10/2012 5:06:46 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s a shocker!

You have been around the block a few times. :)

You were right to resist Romneyknowing he would turn the election over to Obama.

You were right to give in to the GOPers and stop resisting for the only (very slim) hope of removing Obama.


77 posted on 11/10/2012 5:07:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: lbryce; onyx; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; Jim Robinson
Break Out your best Anti-Romney graphics one last time guys.

We Knew the Truth the whole time!


78 posted on 11/10/2012 5:08:58 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: conservative98

You must not like Sarah very much, to suggest shoving HER into the hell this cabal will have cobbled together by then. The third sentence of Reply 15 sez it well.

Quote: “The fraud will be 10x worse next time, IMO.”

This was the one we had to win. Our next opportunity might come in approximately 75 years.....just like it did for the Romanians, the Poles, the Czechs, et al. You and I will never see it!


79 posted on 11/10/2012 5:18:18 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: KC_Lion

Pathetic.


80 posted on 11/10/2012 5:26:13 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Rove, as an adviser to the Romeny campaign and master of moving the middle, had in fact swung many of the those in the middle to our side. Rove has always taken the stance that it is better to pander to the “undecideds” than to secure the base, thinking that the base has nowhere else to go.

Apparently Chris Chrispie's bear hug "swung many in the middle" to the wrong side, which really shows how unreliable and propaganda prone the middle and undecided are.

They are idiots, they are easily spooked and they are easily fooled. They can't be won over in the current propaganda filled environment.

Better to appeal to the base and appeal to the millions of conservative (a.k.a common sense)voters who sit elections out because they are turned off by the long line of moderates, and doofuses that we nominate.

81 posted on 11/10/2012 5:30:14 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: lbryce

Right - Jim Robinson and several million others refused to vote for Romney.
And we now have Mr. Obama. Aren’t you all pleased?


82 posted on 11/10/2012 5:31:55 PM PST by LLoyd George (more speculation games - cosmology style)
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To: lbryce

what’s the point of your post?
your happy we got stuck with obama because of huge vote fraud, and 2ndly because some did not vote.
a true conservative will not win for many years to come. face it.


83 posted on 11/10/2012 5:32:09 PM PST by freeB
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To: freeB
a true conservative will not win for many years to come. face it.

Might be a bit quicker if you took those heavy chains of your shoulders.
84 posted on 11/10/2012 5:36:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: newzjunkey
The reason Romney lost was something I and others warned about on here repeatedly. He was a Republican John Kerry, a rich guy who seems out-of-touch and who doesn't have a compelling personal story for how he made his money. The quote below proves that.

Romney also was involved with hundreds of companies that went out of business, laid people off, outsourced jobs, etc. I and others pointed out how Romney was destroyed in his 1994 Senate race by ads of the people he laid off railing against him. I also pointed out how Carly Fiorina lost her Senate race in 2010 by being portrayed as an outsourcer. Voters of all stripes DESPISE that.

Romney fell short of McCain's votes by 1.5 million. Obama fell short of his own vote total by 8 million. Romney did not have enough appeal to swing voters. They didn't like Obama anymore, but Romney was unacceptable to them. Almost ALL of the other primary candidates would have beaten Obama, because none of them could have been portrayed as a "robber baron" in a year when liberals and Tea Party people alike are DEEPLY distrustful of the financial sector.

From the interviews with his campaign staff:

In exit polling, voters were asked about four metrics of leadership. Romney beat Obama on the questions of (a) which candidate has a positive vision for the country, (b) which candidate shares "my values," and (c) which candidate is a "strong leader." Despite batting .750, Romney got crushed by approximately 60 points on the question of which candidate "cares about people like me." This suggests that the Obama campaign's early "kill Romney" approach -- painting the former governor and CEO as an out-of-touch, uber-wealthy, outsourcing robber barron -- worked. It also suggests that personal connection and relatability are now more important factors in national elections than experience or accomplishment.

85 posted on 11/10/2012 5:38:54 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Come on, grow up. I say it as it is and make no apologies for what others refer to as brownnosing, as placed in the keywords, or some laughing icon that looks upon my comments as if Jim Roninson is going to do me any special favors, whatever they could possibly be. Laugh your ass off. If you don’t have the capacity to understand what I’ve express in the profound manner it was expressed then getting a laugh out of something that is of a more superficial level,I’m still all for it.


86 posted on 11/10/2012 5:38:54 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: KC_Lion
Hell ya....then rejoice in the misery you wrought! Party Time ! Feel better?
87 posted on 11/10/2012 5:43:03 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: freeB

I mean, it’s as simple as 1+1. Really how can you not grasp the simplest of statements. What sort of mental block do you have?

Trying reading it several times> Maybe it will penetrate.

My point is quite simple and easy to comprehend, if you have the capacity to understand. Jim Robinson warned us all that we should not be voting for Romney and he turned out to be absolutely right. If you fail to see the point then go back to the DU and try to get another question to ask.


88 posted on 11/10/2012 5:46:34 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: freeB
...a true conservative will not win for many years to come. face it.

It's apparent that faux conservatives such as McCain and Romney have lost the last two elections. How many times do you want to keep trying?

89 posted on 11/10/2012 5:46:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: freeB

I mean, it’s as simple as 1+1. Really how can you not grasp the simplest of statements. What sort of mental block do you have?

Trying reading it several times> Maybe it will penetrate.

My point is quite simple and easy to comprehend, if you have the capacity to understand. Jim Robinson warned us all that we should not be voting for Romney and he turned out to be absolutely right. If you fail to see the point then go back to the DU and try to get another question to ask.


90 posted on 11/10/2012 5:47:12 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: NoLibZone

No, because I’m no bovine look-alike with lesbian proclivities, speaking out of both ends of her mouth. Calling me Rachel Madddow is the kind of libelous statement that earns lawyers big, big bucks.


91 posted on 11/10/2012 5:57:54 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: NoLibZone

No, because I’m no bovine look-alike with lesbian proclivities, speaking out of both ends of her mouth. Calling me Rachel Madddow is the kind of libelous statement that earns lawyers big, big bucks.


92 posted on 11/10/2012 5:58:10 PM PST by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce

No question that Romney was the weakest candidate of the 9 who started out. Yet, he ran a good campaign and should have won. The Monday Morning Quartermasters are all so wise now, it is scary. The know-it-alls! Yet, I do recall that as many were predicting way back when that Romney, the Weakest would lose, others were predicting the same about Newt the Strongest and about everyone of those others. I suspect that Newt and those others would have lost this year as well. You can argue, but we’ll never know. Romney didn’t lose because he’s a RINO, he lost because of the division in the country, because of the class envy and resentment, guilt about some idiocy called “racism”, because of misinformation, because of ignorance of the voters voting against their own best interests.


93 posted on 11/10/2012 5:59:43 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ouderkirk

If you think Romney is a “nice” man unable to fight, there is a bridge in NY with your name on it. It’s a little storm weathered but I can get it for you real cheap.

Funny, all the early talk here was about it being a good thing Romney could go after conservatives because it was a sign that he was a real fighter. Now you think he’s too nice. LOL!

Here in Florida, one of the problems we had was that Romney tore Newt Gingrich to shreds. He told every lie he could throw, every nasty rumor he could dig up. But when it came down to running against Obama, who is a liberal like himself, he could not do it. People here could not believe it. His Obama is just a nice guy in over his head campaign did not play here. Conservatives could not imagine Obama as being a nice, cool guy while Newt Gingrich and any other conservative was portrayed as minion of Satan.

Romney is not nice. He acts nice to liberals. He attacks conservatives with the same vehemence as the liberals do. Don’t forget that when the GOP-e tries to force him on us again.


94 posted on 11/10/2012 6:05:30 PM PST by Waryone
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To: cripplecreek; freeB

What is your definition of a true conservative and which one do you believe could have won this last election? How?


95 posted on 11/10/2012 6:12:25 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

No, not all. This is not the only race ever covered with Jim weighing in on who to vote for. You’re point against me is ludicrous, nonsensical and and politically illiterate,I could very easily have voted for Obama, for the sake of illustration. But now, even though I didn’t follow Jim Robinson and I can still still congratulate him for making the right prediction while I may have been wrong. I don’t have to necessarily vote for Romney to congratulate Jim so the point you’re making against me is moot. I don’t necessarily follow Jim’s advice but even you can understand
that just because I am congratulating him doesn’t necessarily mean I eve voted for Romney or Obama. I’m simply making making a statement that he got it right. You’re probably stuck on that one.


96 posted on 11/10/2012 6:17:15 PM PST by lbryce (am)
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To: Waryone
Romney tore Newt Gingrich to shreds

Newt's "baggage" was all on him. He had a history just like Romney, but considerably sleazier.

97 posted on 11/10/2012 6:17:25 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: ari-freedom

—and I forgot to mention Florida-—


98 posted on 11/10/2012 6:22:53 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: lbryce
I could very easily have voted for Obama, for the sake of illustration.

Then I take back my kind words in my FR mail to you.

FO traitor.

99 posted on 11/10/2012 6:23:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: lbryce

Thanks for posting lbryce. I was trying to find the time to set down to compose such a congratulatory message as yours myself. I think ya done good.


100 posted on 11/10/2012 6:24:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch
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