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Posted on 11/11/2012 12:44:27 PM PST by Renfield
SAN FRANCISCO — Ötzi the Iceman, an astonishingly well-preserved Neolithic mummy found in the Italian Alps in 1991, was a native of Central Europe, not a first-generation émigré from Sardinia, new research shows. And genetically, he looked a lot like other Stone Age farmers throughout Europe.
he new findings, reported Thursday (Nov. 8) here at the American Society of Human Genetics conference, support the theory that farmers, and not just the technology of farming, spread during prehistoric times from the Middle East all the way to Finland.
"The idea is that the spread of farming and agriculture, right now we have good evidence that it was also associated with a movement of people and not only technology," said study co-author Martin Sikora, a geneticist at Stanford University....
(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...
I hope he didn’t refer to her as “Mummy Dearest”....
I hope he didn’t refer to her as “Mummy Dearest”....
Think of the striking differences in each groups views of property. Plus, the productive density of agriculture would give additional calories to farmers who could always supplement by trapping and hunting.
Too much leisure is a net cultural/societal negative.
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Dead ringer.
willie nelson !!
who knew?
Big issue is density. Agriculture can support, in most locations, a population 10x, 100x or more that of hunting/gathering. Look at the populations of major American Indian tribes in 1700 and the absolutely immense territories they, sort of, controlled.
In the long run, this means the farmers will win.
Just finished Guns, Germs and Steel. An interesting book, though Mr. Diamond had an obvious “anti-white” axe to grind.
When he spoke of “white” expansion into Australia and the Americas, he use words with negative and judgmental connotations like “invasion” and “conquest.”
When he spoke of similar expansion by non-white groups, such as the Bantus into most of sub-Saharan Africa and the Austronesians into Indonesia, he use neutral, objective language such as “expansion” and “spread.”
It is likely the groups displaced had similar experiences.
Been there, read that.
Very interesting book. Written by someone interested in what actually happened in the Americas before whitey showed up, not just in the history of the oppression of the native Americans by the white man.
An awful lot of the PC “histories” of the Indians portray him not as fully human, but almost as a type of wildlife.
http://www.amazon.com/War-Before-Civilization-Peaceful-Savage/dp/0195119126
We frequent the same library, I think.
You’re right about density, but I think there is a strong social/psychology aspect as well. As a hunter/gatherer you’re transient. You have a short time horizon and as the game moves, so do you. Liberals have this worldview. Go with the flow. Something for nothing. Anything goes.
An agricultural society is the opposite. You have to have an effective social construct based on shared, proven beliefs. Hence marriage and family are so critical. You also practice the Law of the Harvest - you reap what you sow. This induces long term thinking and the close relationship between risk and reward, hard work and effort.
There are exceptions to both of the above, but overall hunter-gatherers have high leisure, tolerance of the unconventional social norm and female oriented labor burdens. Just like the modern liberal worldview.
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Thanks Renfield. Glad you've been taking care of this week. |
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Thanks Renfield. Glad you've been taking care of this week. |
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Slick Willy is hoping they find his daughter.
Reminds me of my Uncle Tommy.
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