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If push comes to shove, will Rush, other wealthy conservative, buy Obama approved health insurance?

Posted on 11/11/2012 7:41:36 PM PST by grumpygresh

Almost four years ago Rush had chest pains during a vacation in Hawaii. He received the best possible care, and all turned out well. He revealed that he does not have health insurance and pays out of pocket, negotiating the best rate. Will Rush take this opportunity to be the civil rights leader of the 21st century and engage in civil disobedience? Will he tell Pharaoh Obama to let his people go!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: healthinsurance; obamacare; rush; vanity
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It is apparent that we will not find leadership from the Republicans at the national level.
1 posted on 11/11/2012 7:41:42 PM PST by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh

IBTZ


2 posted on 11/11/2012 7:44:54 PM PST by fhayek
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To: grumpygresh

I don’t think you understand how Obamacare works. You aren’t going to go to jail if you don’t pay for insurance. You do have to pay a fine, but for someone like Rush, it’s pocket change. I don’t know what you want him to do? set himself on fire as a political statement like a Buddhist monk?


3 posted on 11/11/2012 7:46:24 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: grumpygresh

Interesting question. Will he refuse to pay the penalty ascribed by the mandate? And do it as a firewall for all the rest of us. How can they go after us if they don’t go after him?


4 posted on 11/11/2012 7:47:02 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: grumpygresh

As far as I understand, and like Ms. Pelosi, I have not “read the bill,”

if you don’t buy insurance, you pay a fine?


5 posted on 11/11/2012 7:49:03 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: ottbmare

I will NEVER pay the fine.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 7:49:06 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: grumpygresh

He will probably just pay the non-compliance penalty...oh, I mean the thing Roberts called a legitimate tax.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 7:49:11 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: grumpygresh

Most people will continue to receive employer provided insurance.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 7:50:30 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Uh, no, they won’t. And that’s off the subject of what Rush will do anyway.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 7:52:15 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: grumpygresh

Mr. Limbaugh makes North of $300 million dollars a year. Why in the wide, wide world of sports would he buy medical insurance? He could start a small hospital with the change on his bedroom dresser...


10 posted on 11/11/2012 7:54:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: grumpygresh

Rush still has to explain why he was arrested on his way into the Dominican Republic with illegal Viagra.

That was definitely paid for out-of-pocket.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 7:54:04 PM PST by warchild9
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To: fhayek

He might refuse to pay the mandate penalty on the basis of a religious/philosophical exemption (as allowed for Amish, Islam) and litigate the case in the courts. This would inspire others to do the same as well as clogging up the court system.
He does not have to light himself on fire, and I am not a troll for making this suggestion.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 7:56:54 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: grumpygresh

The insurance for the wealthy is so good that they have to pay a tax on it.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: MrChips

I understand a few states have already passed laws that prohibit the scumbag feds from requiring that state’s citizens to buy health insurance. Maybe Rush could set up shop in one of those states.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 7:58:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MrChips
I will NEVER pay the fine.

LOL, I won't either. I don't have any money to pay a fine. I don't have any money to pay for health insurance. And I don't have any money to pay for health care out of my own pocket. I'm not in a good place, am I? But if I get seriously ill--and that's always a possibility with me--they could attach my house, which is all I have left. Maybe they could put a lien on my dog. ;-)

15 posted on 11/11/2012 7:59:35 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: warchild9

With the fraud, graft, corruption in this administration causing the downfall of this great country, and you’re worried about an age-old story about Rush Limbaugh?

No freakin’ wonder we lost the election...


16 posted on 11/11/2012 7:59:59 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: grumpygresh

Not likely.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 8:00:40 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FrankR

The adulation of that reprobate embarasses us all.

Not all of us craves external validation.

/look it up


18 posted on 11/11/2012 8:03:41 PM PST by warchild9
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To: grumpygresh

Even I won’t buy it. I’ll get the coverage I need and if that ain’t good enough take ot outta one of my checks...


19 posted on 11/11/2012 8:05:30 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Persevero

Yes, you pay a fine...err...tax for not having health insurance.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 8:05:56 PM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I recall when he built the Palm Beach mansion he said he was self-insured. It wouldn’t surprise me to hear that extends to his medical insurance as well.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 8:07:04 PM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL


22 posted on 11/11/2012 8:07:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ottbmare

They can take my house, my bank account, my possessions, even my Katherine Hepburn movie collection! But, they come after my dogs, and I will shoot them!


23 posted on 11/11/2012 8:10:22 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: warchild9

That’s all you’ve got? A fabricated, aged story? Geez.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 8:11:00 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: MrChips

You’ll never pay the fine eh?

The IRS will empty your bank account, put a lien on your wages or other means to TAKE the ‘fine’ - same as they do delinquent tax payers.

Why do you people think they put the IRS in charge of ENFORCEMENT of the mandate?

It’s the Mark of this beast folks. No one gets health care unless they think and act in accord with the regime.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 8:12:10 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: fhayek

You are jumping the gun, it was a legitimate question and I don’t see any undertones of trolling.


26 posted on 11/11/2012 8:12:19 PM PST by SSDecontrol
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To: Vendome

We visited my VERY wealthy Florida Uncle back in 1977 on vacation the year before I went into the service. He owned a chain of banks and was buddy-buddy with Dick Nixon and Bebe Rebozo. My younger cousin literally had enough assorted bills and change on his dresser and bathroom sink area to buy a new car.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 8:13:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: grumpygresh; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy

Who??

The radio talk show host who said Romney will win in a landslide? And who said that McCain would win?

The fine per individual is only about $600 with no penalty if he avoids it successfully so I don’t see what you are getting at.

He can not buy the insurance at NO risk.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 8:14:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: grumpygresh

What are you talking about, Rush will pay cash. If you listen to him you would know!


29 posted on 11/11/2012 8:14:51 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: Arthurio

Not for long.


30 posted on 11/11/2012 8:15:00 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Sorry I did not read your complete post. You did make mention that he is cash and carry!


31 posted on 11/11/2012 8:17:32 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: INVAR

Let them take it all. I will die a free man.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 8:17:39 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

They don’t want this dog, believe me! ;-)


33 posted on 11/11/2012 8:18:17 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Of course he will pay cash for his healthcare. But will he comply by paying the fine or buying Obama approved insurance? If he does not comply, he will need to defend himself in court. He could act as a test case and others could follow. he would claim a religious/philosophical exemption like the Amish & Islam have under the aw. Maybe this would be better for Mark Levin.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 8:20:31 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Jane Long

It’s documented. I’ve seen the police reports, and am not dazzled by idolatry or cognitive dissonance.

/look it up


35 posted on 11/11/2012 8:21:37 PM PST by warchild9
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To: Rebelbase

Of course he’s self-insured. What insurance carrier would accept him, with all of his pre-existing medical conditions?: drug addition, intractable pain, cervical spine damage, cardiac problems, smoking, goodness knows what else. And even if they did, why should he pay? Why not just write a check for any procedure, if you have the money? That’s what everybody used to do. It’s only been in the last half-century or so, when medicine has been more complex and thus terribly expensive, that we’ve started to use insurance. But even if, God forbid, Rush needed a heart transplant, he could pay cash for it.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 8:23:45 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: sickoflibs

off subject, but he did not predict McCain would win. He always hated the McCain candidacy, with the exception of the Palin pick and a few days after that. So unless you’re talking about a little temporary exuberance over Palin, he did not say that...


37 posted on 11/11/2012 8:25:24 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: MrChips

They would love it if Rush didn’t pay the fine - they would love to throw him in jail and lose the key. Obama would make an example of Rush in a New York minute.


38 posted on 11/11/2012 8:27:08 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: ottbmare

Our care would be remarkably less expensive today if more people did what we did just a couple of decades ago, not 50 years ago. That is, major medical. You pay cash for all the small stuff, even the medium stuff, and insurance is cheap beause it only covers the catastrophe. You know, the heart “big one” or the cancer, etc.

Meanwhile, the “hit by a bus” example has always been breath takingly ignorant - if that happens, the bus’s auto insurance pays the medical.


39 posted on 11/11/2012 8:27:50 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: grumpygresh

On the national level very many people, should it ever come to that will simply NOT file both a.)1040 return or b.)the reporting form indicating insurance coverage, or will file but not the reporting form

A national boycott of an unconstitutional law will be organized, and is being organized, and one for which there is not enough police to prevent.

And, by the way an all cash/barter system basis, so they cannot be put out of business. There is no provision besides the fine, and the penalty for not paying the fine is not a “tax” violation.

This will all be made easier in each of the states which have decided not to take part in any insurance exchange, and therefore those citizens have no provision for participation.

If this went far enough, it could dramatically reduce medical costs for routine preventive care. The legal requirement for providing catastrophic or emergent care would still remain by law, as it is now.

The leadership will come from individuals exercising their rights in a very large test case. Sort of like people speeding on a federal highway— “come and get me”.


40 posted on 11/11/2012 8:34:02 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: grumpygresh

Private payers will probably be banned knowing Obama.


41 posted on 11/11/2012 8:34:49 PM PST by peggybac (Hope and Change has become Divide and Conquer)
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To: Lancey Howard

Florida just declared they will not have the exchanges, and there are 21 other states that have done the same, to my recollection.

Rush lives in FL. We simply won’t participate. Fine isn’t possible if the machinery isn’t there to follow the “mandate”.


42 posted on 11/11/2012 8:37:16 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kewel ....


43 posted on 11/11/2012 8:37:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, yo u won't live through it anyway)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I think Rush or maybe Mark Levin would litigate. Unless they have a probate violation, no one will go to jail. Could you imagine if Rush(or some other prominent conservative) was actually thrown in jail for not paying the fine or buying insurance? This could be a cause célèbre that could ignite a firestorm.


44 posted on 11/11/2012 8:41:10 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: peggybac

The Bahamas is not far for him.


45 posted on 11/11/2012 8:42:33 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: sickoflibs

Have transcripts of Rush’s shows. He never said Romney would win, and he couldn’t stand McCain. Whom are you talking about?

Fairly unimaginative postings here. Are there no freedom loving people on FR? We simply refuse, and yes, horror of horrors we don’t get medical care. Lot’s of people in the non corporate slave world go “naked” with insurance. It is how an awful lot of people have had to live for some time.
And a beautiful naional “tea party” revolt that could not be contained. Looking forward to it.


46 posted on 11/11/2012 8:43:09 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; mwl8787; oneprolifewoman; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :Rush did not predict McCain would win..

Freepers like you always make this fun, thanks :)

Talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh says that Sen. John McCain will score a stunning upset over Sen. Barack Obama and win the presidency on Nov. 4
[Rush] Limbaugh Predicts McCain Victory (NewsMax ^ | October 31, 2008 | David A. Patten, FR thread link )

‘Don't Doubt me’ LOL

For some reason when Rush said that Romney would beat O in a landslide I was skeptical ...

47 posted on 11/11/2012 8:44:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: John S Mosby

“A national boycott of an unconstitutional law will be organized, and is being organized, and one for which there is not enough police to prevent.”

Thank you John. This is the reason for my post. This is the way people need to think.


48 posted on 11/11/2012 8:47:22 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: sickoflibs

oh right, quote some London rag with 200 readers and ignore a show with an audience of 25 million. GEEZ, gimme a break

No one listening to Rush the entire 08 season is under any delusion that Rush thought McCain would win. No one. Screw one interview, that may or may not have been taken in context - I listened all of 08 and the only time Rush had any optimism was right after the Palin pick.


49 posted on 11/11/2012 8:48:34 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: ottbmare

You are correct - and also, Obamacare requires you have insurance, which I am sure Rush does.


50 posted on 11/11/2012 8:50:34 PM PST by PGR88
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