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If push comes to shove, will Rush, other wealthy conservative, buy Obama approved health insurance?

Posted on 11/11/2012 7:41:36 PM PST by grumpygresh

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To: John S Mosby

On the national level very many people, should it ever come to that will simply NOT file both a.)1040 return or b.)the reporting form indicating insurance coverage, or will file but not the reporting form.”

Not a good idea not to fill out and file the 1040.

From what i can tell, the healthcare form gets filled out by the EMPLOYER.

Its possible they could put a box on the w-2 and mark it if the employee has health coverage.


51 posted on 11/11/2012 8:51:17 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: grumpygresh

bump

AFAIK Rush “self-insures”


52 posted on 11/11/2012 8:55:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: John S Mosby; C. Edmund Wright; mwl8787; oneprolifewoman; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”Have transcripts of Rush’s shows. He never said Romney would win, and he couldn’t stand McCain(so he didn't say he would win) .”

No ? Man freepers like you make this fun. Thanks!

Talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh says that Sen. John McCain will score a stunning upset over Sen. Barack Obama and win the presidency on Nov. 4
[Rush] Limbaugh Predicts McCain Victory (NewsMax ^ | October 31, 2008 | David A. Patten, FR thread link )

“The enthusiasm that got people out in 2010, I'm seeing at every Mitt Romney rally. Romney's drawing crowds of 20,000, 25,000, 30,000, 15,000. “The enthusiasm that we all saw in 2010 is there. The same issues that existed in 2010 exist today. There hasn't been anything that's gotten better.”
Rush: Everything But Polls Say Romney Landslide (Newmake Monday, 05 Nov 2012)

Ignore the polls saying Obama is winning Rush Limbaugh Says, Swing State Polls Are Bogus! (video posted 9/26/2012 )

Don't Doubt me’ LOL

53 posted on 11/11/2012 9:08:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
RE:”oh right, quote some London rag with 200 readers and ignore a show with an audience of 25 million. GEEZ, gimme a break”

Yes you are right.
Newsmax is a left wing rag who planted that story that McCain would win on Oct 31, 2008 days before the election knowing Mccain would lose just to make Rush look foolish after it happened. They were saying MCcain would win because they knew he would lose. ,

Dont you Rush groupies EVER get tired of waking up the day after election being told why everything Rush told you that was shown not true was really true?
Its all voters fault that Rush told you Mccain and Romney would win big.

54 posted on 11/11/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

Youre right jackass, let’s judge Rush by a newsmax email blast advertisement and a third person quote from a London reporter - let’s not judge Rush by his own words for six months leading up to election day.

The guy is on three hours a day, and said a lot of words - but no one, NO ONE, would say that over the course of the many months leading up to election day, that he was optimistic about McCain’s chances over all. No one....with a brain.


55 posted on 11/11/2012 9:29:23 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: sickoflibs

He clearly thought Romney would win - just like he clearly thought McCain would lose - based on the over all tenor of his comments.


56 posted on 11/11/2012 9:31:24 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Yes, Newsmax planted that story just before election day 2008 saying McCain would win just to make Rush look bad when he lost,

WOW, Rush must have planted a chip in your head to have to buy that.

57 posted on 11/11/2012 9:35:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; John S Mosby; mwl8787; oneprolifewoman; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
RE :”Youre right jackass, let’s judge Rush by a newsmax email blast advertisement and a third person quote from a London reporter - let’s not judge Rush by his own words for six months leading up to election day.”(claiming Rush never said McCain would win and Newsmax lied)

Jackass???, you are going to hurt my feelings if you keep this up LOL

Maybe this source is suspicious too:
We Could See a McCain Landslide( Rushlimbaugh.comAugust 12, 2008)

Man this is fun!

58 posted on 11/11/2012 9:42:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: warchild9

Rush Limbaugh has NEVER run for any public office; nor has he registered to be a pastor or an actor on tv. - He is an imperfect man and acknowledges it. Unlike the reprobate icon of adoration, Bill Clinton and his consort, Hillary.

I doubt you’ve ever even listened to just a few of Rush’s monologues; it would get you shamed by your liberal friends. ILLEGAL Viagara ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha bwa ha ha ha. Illegal Viagara bothers you, but illegal immigration doesn’t?


59 posted on 11/11/2012 9:55:14 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: Twinkie

Rush said, “My job is not to win elections, it’s to do the most entertaining radio program that I can.”


60 posted on 11/11/2012 9:56:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: sickoflibs

In each case the reference to “what Rush said” left out the full show content with his usual on balance type of comments. He said Romney was a “nice man” and then said nothing would work if we don’t vote. Levin said the same thing.

In each election, Rush has said the polls are not predictive or definitive, in fact in this election saying the polls are virtually useless because they do not access a true statistical sample— of real people. He’d castigate polle even as he would lamely cheer on yet another put up candidate for the team. Boortz on the otherhand is giving up on RINOland, and selfrighteously going to register Libertarian— a truly pointless exercise.

” Freepers like you”? Speak for yourself— you’ve no idea who I am, what business I own or anything else.

Would say what is more puzzling is why Rush will not pursue the voter fraud issue— which was present in 08 and this one along with illegal money of a sort that is mostly likely foreign sourced. With all of Romney’s money— why didn’t he? Answer: just like McCain he didn’t want it enough to go after obama. What was needed is a scrapper.


61 posted on 11/11/2012 10:08:55 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
RE :”In each election, Rush has said the polls are not predictive or definitive, in fact in this election saying the polls are virtually useless because they do not access a true statistical sample— of real people”

He clearly said to ignore all the polls that showed that Romney was losing because they were not true, because Romney was going to beat Obama

Talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh says that Sen. John McCain will score a stunning upset over Sen. Barack Obama and win the presidency on Nov. 4
[Rush] Limbaugh Predicts McCain Victory (NewsMax ^ | October 31, 2008 | David A. Patten, FR thread link )

“The enthusiasm that got people out in 2010, I'm seeing at every Mitt Romney rally. Romney's drawing crowds of 20,000, 25,000, 30,000, 15,000. “The enthusiasm that we all saw in 2010 is there. The same issues that existed in 2010 exist today. There hasn't been anything that's gotten better.”
Rush: Everything But Polls Say Romney Landslide (Newmake Monday, 05 Nov 2012)

Ignore the polls saying Obama is winning Rush Limbaugh Says, Swing State Polls Are Bogus! (video posted 9/26/2012 )

Don't Doubt me’ LOL

62 posted on 11/11/2012 10:24:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

Lol, Rush “The Confidence Man” selling the same old same old. Good job finding this.


63 posted on 11/11/2012 10:29:29 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: sickoflibs

Rush is an entertainer, and I (who listen infrequently) usually find him entertaining.

Other than that, I don’t care about him or worry over what he does, and he represents nothing to me other than diversion.

I can’t speak for the rest of his audience, but neither can anyone else.


64 posted on 11/11/2012 11:37:32 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: PGR88

I actually heard one of his shows years back and he said he pays cash for all his medical stuff. Don’t know about now but I doubt he will comply with odumbocare.


65 posted on 11/11/2012 11:39:56 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: sickoflibs; C. Edmund Wright; John S Mosby
From rushlimbaugh.com 11/05/2012 Everything -- Except the Polls -- Points to a Romney Landslide
66 posted on 11/11/2012 11:47:56 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ottbmare

And what if the feds go after the doctors that treat those paying cash? Big fines, lawsuits, etc.?


67 posted on 11/12/2012 1:09:01 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: INVAR

They can arrest me. I will never pay the fine. FUBO.


68 posted on 11/12/2012 2:05:34 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA

Limbaugh can’t be taken seriously any longer. He was once an important figure. A long time ago.


69 posted on 11/12/2012 2:37:24 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I for one was not disputing that Rush thought Mitt would win this year- but the tenor of his program during the 08 season was much different. It was one of trying to drag Yosemite Sam across the finish line - against long long odds.


70 posted on 11/12/2012 2:53:41 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: sickoflibs

AUGUST? That’s not even the campaign season? What kind of small picture, bureaucratic left brained type B smarm are you? He says a lot of things from time to time, but there’s such a thing as the whole body of work. You are so small minded you don’t get that.

And I said, you ignorant obuse ass, that right after the Palin nomination he did have a period of optimism. But you’re just delusional if you think, on the whole, during all of the 08 season, that he was optimisitc. He was not.

He’s on the air three hours a day and says a lot of things, but taken on the whole, analyzed by any adult with an IQ above double digits, his feelings of McCain’s chances were decidedly negative.

Let me type slower so you can perhaps follow along: on the whole, taking his whole body of work for the 08 campaign, he was not optimisitc about McCain. Certainly not at all like he was this year. Again, just in case your microbial brain cannot wrap itself around the concept, you might be able to comb his archives for a statement here or there to the contrary, but no one on the planet who listens regularly during that time would come to the conclusion that the overall tenor of the program is that McCain was going to win.


71 posted on 11/12/2012 2:59:36 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: sickoflibs

You don’t understand what Newsmax is or how they operate iwth their email blasts. They are always taking little bits and pieces of headlines as teasers ALWAYS. WHY? Because they get paid PER CLICK by their advertisers when people OPEN their email blasts. YES, paid per click to OPEN.

Now, to get peiple to open, they have to tease with COUNTER INTUIVITE and dramatic statements to pique interest.

I AM IN THIS INDUSTRY. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS.. You are NOT and you DO NOT.
DONT DOUBT ME>>>>>LOL LOL LOL


72 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:03 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: warchild9

That’s a lie. Rush called it a bad lie several years ago when a lib caller mentioned it.


73 posted on 11/12/2012 3:11:21 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I for one was not disputing that Rush thought Mitt would win this year- but the tenor of his program during the 08 season was much different. It was one of trying to drag Yosemite Sam across the finish line - against long long odds.

I looked at some 2008 transcripts, and I found some evidence supporting your assertion that Limbaugh was not really for McCain, but instead was against Obama. In the same way, I voted in 2012 not really for Romney, but rather against Obama.

I have agreed with Limbaugh on some issues, but sometimes I think he is simply wrong. I don't take him that seriously, but he can be entertaining.

So just think of my ping to you as FYI.

74 posted on 11/12/2012 3:29:22 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: grumpygresh
He might refuse to pay the mandate penalty on the basis of a religious/philosophical exemption (as allowed for Amish, Islam) and litigate the case in the courts. This would inspire others to do the same as well as clogging up the court system.

Those who want catastrophic coverage and DON'T want a fine or risk jailtime can consider Christian Healthcare Minsitries:

Christian Healthcare MInistries:

Is Christian Healthcare Ministries included in the U.S. health care legislation?

Anyone who is a member of a health cost sharing ministry is exempted from penalty under the national health care bill signed into law on March 23, 2010. Christian Healthcare Ministries meets each of the qualifications set forth for health cost sharing ministries in the U.S. health care legislation.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruling on June 28, 2012, does not alter CHM members' ability to meet each other's health care costs. The ministry will continue to provide affordable, quality health cost sharing support.

75 posted on 11/12/2012 3:37:26 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: grumpygresh

Be. Interesting to see what would happen if tens of millions just said NO. We’re not spending thousand of dollars /yr on health insurance.


76 posted on 11/12/2012 3:40:26 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: grumpygresh

BTW. Rush....and all those guys probably are already in with these guys...

https://www.brokerfish.com/


77 posted on 11/12/2012 3:42:32 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

10-4...no problem.

As an aside, going back and looking at a transcript here or a transcript there is illustrative to a point, but does not give you the over all tenor of the show over a period of weeks or months. Rush thought for weeks that Mitt would win, and perhaps comfortably. That is the overall impression of his show, if you listened, and heard the nuance and the context. You could go back and cherry pick archives to both support that and dispute that - taken out of context and without nuance.

In 08, he was hopeful but not optimistic about McCain. Oh, there were moments here and there, but overall, he was down on McCain as a candidate. To anyone who listens, this is not in dispute.

Also, Newsmax is in the business of selling emal blast advertising. They are always twisting and tweaking words of famous people to get people to click on their emails. To quote one of their little blurbs as if it were “news” is to totally misunderstand what they are all about


78 posted on 11/12/2012 3:46:58 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: ottbmare

Ding Ding Ding,You win the Lottery,the Government is going to Pay for Yours,Dont worry,its only the working People collecting any salary who cant afford to pay for health Care who will be fined to Pay for theirs and yours.


79 posted on 11/12/2012 4:56:14 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: C. Edmund Wright; SaxxonWoods; LongWayHome; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; John S Mosby; Impy; ...
RE :"What kind of small picture, bureaucratic left brained type B smarm are you?.....
And I said, you ignorant obuse ass, ...
...by any adult with an IQ above double digits...
Again, just in case your microbial brain ...
"

Man, You Rush-bots sure get touchy when your Golden Calf gets exposed by his own words :)

Talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh says that Sen. John McCain will score a stunning upset over Sen. Barack Obama and win the presidency on Nov. 4
Rush Limbaugh Predicts McCain Victory (NewsMax ^ | October 31, 2008 | David A. Patten, FR thread link )

Maybe this source is suspicious too:
We Could See a McCain Landslide( Rushlimbaugh.com August 12, 2008)

Rush: “The enthusiasm that got people out in 2010, I'm seeing at every Mitt Romney rally. Romney's drawing crowds of 20,000, 25,000, 30,000, 15,000. “The enthusiasm that we all saw in 2010 is there. The same issues that existed in 2010 exist today. There hasn't been anything that's gotten better.”
Rush: Everything But Polls Say Romney Landslide (Newmax Monday, 05 Nov 2012)

Another suspicious source (found thanks to ddd):
Everything -- Except the Polls -- Points to a Romney Landslide(Rush Limbaugh.com 11/05/2012 )

Well we know one talk radio host who was pointing to that anyway. One who is usually wrong.

Ignore the polls saying Obama is winning Rush Limbaugh Says, Swing State Polls Are Bogus! (video posted 9/26/2012 )

Don't doubt me LOL

80 posted on 11/12/2012 5:13:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

This is not about Rush. This is about your obtuse ignorance.

And wow, you are ignorant. I could go back and pull out a thousand quotes from Rush’ archives disputing the ONE that you keep going back to. As for the London interview, WTF are you thinking?

But unlike you, I have a life, so I don’t have time to go back to the archives. You are pathetically stupid, thinking a London Telegraph interview defines the opinon of a man who is on the radio 15 hours a week every week.


81 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:25 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: sickoflibs

Just for the hell of it, here’s a few about how disgusted Rush was with McCain and his pathetic changes of beating Obama: in fact, hidden in this list, is an entire show segment where Rush quoted my work - see if you can find it???
DONT DOUBT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLx1000

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/10/08/mccain_won_t_fight_so_we_have_to_drag_him_over_the_finish_line
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/10/07/time_to_name_names_senator_mccain
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/10/01/why_the_blame_business_matters
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/02/media-fueling-relishing-mccain-limbaugh.html
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/01/coulter-wants-clinton-over-mccain/
http://voices.yahoo.com/i-disagree-rush-limbaugh-as-bad-as-he-john-1012345.html?cat=9
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/23/limbaugh-romneys-endorsement-of-mccain-is-suicidal/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/02/limbaugh-mccain/
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/10/10/say_it_to_his_face_senator_mccain


82 posted on 11/12/2012 6:17:45 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright; SaxxonWoods; LongWayHome; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; John S Mosby; Impy; ...
I am well aware of how down on MCcain that Rush was leading up to 2008 election. So his claiming Mccain would win big against O, as with Romney, just make him look even more silly afterward. in 2006 he made similar predictions.

Your worship of a flawed human being as an infallible god-like figures is what is causing your cult like behavior on this thread.

Only a programmed robot would make up the illogical defenses that you are and recede to have nothing but a bunch of completely meaningless personal insults.

I highlight them because it makes my case.

83 posted on 11/12/2012 6:32:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

Apparently there is much you are not aware of, including what this argument is about. It’s not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, and in case you’re still confused, it IS NOT ABOUT RUSH.

It’s about you and your silly notion that a couple of links defines a show that probably had 300 hours of campaign commentary. It’s about you and how you try and prop yourself up on the basis of that silly silly little notion. It’s also about the inside info I have and cannot divulge, but makes be totally aware of the show content.

It’s also about your absurd comparison about Rush’s attitude about McCain and Romney. They were totally different. Rush was far more pessimistic about McCain as a candidate and as a potential President. To compare the two is to demonstrate your reliance on a couple of links to feed your ignorance.


84 posted on 11/12/2012 8:22:53 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: ottbmare

I’m in the same position. I was hoping to be able to get a high deductable policy and just pay out of pocket for routine stuff but I guess that won’t be possible under Obamacare. I won’t be allowed to get a policy that works for ME.


85 posted on 11/12/2012 8:24:42 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: C. Edmund Wright
RE :”Apparently there is much you are not aware of, including what this argument is about. It’s not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, repeat not about Rush, and in case you’re still confused, it IS NOT ABOUT RUSH.”

of course not. You have made it about you and your cultist like behavior, one of those ‘brain dead robots’ that Rush used as a parody of the MSM in the distant past.

Your arguments are circular and irrational leaving you left with only meaningless personal insults that no one cares about, except apparently YOU!

86 posted on 11/12/2012 8:34:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Mr. Limbaugh makes North of $300 million dollars a year. Why in the wide, wide world of sports would he buy medical insurance? He could start a small hospital with the change on his bedroom dresser...

I'd love for Rush and like minded deep pocket conservatives to start a Hospital,

* A Floating One.
* With the Czech Republic (or ?) other free market registration.
* Obamacare Sucks? No Problem, take a high-speed Hydrofoil to the mother ship to get your ills fixed.
* From the Bahama's or something to get to the Med-Ship, you know darn well Fedzilla would bust their balls leaving from FLA....

With all the Conservative Doctors retiring on 12/31/12, Rush and company would have their pick of the litter....

87 posted on 11/12/2012 8:43:55 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: sickoflibs

...and yet, you keep responding, and projecting..and yet, you are also the only one obsessed with Rush. Like I said, your irrational argument was that a link to London and one show segment was a rational argument for a three hour talk show’s over all take - which it is - and would be about any three hour talk show. That was my point, you were so obsessed with trashing Rush that you could not take the plank of obsession out of your own eye to see that I was merely talking in the general. My logic would hold for any daily occurrence that any numbskull was trying to generalize with two pathetic links.


88 posted on 11/12/2012 8:46:20 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You seem to think that you showing that Rush regularly contradicts himself is a defense of him, or that calling me names here is the same as you having an argument, good luck with those.


89 posted on 11/12/2012 8:59:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs
Of course you're right— you rest well with that construct. Imagine what kind of defeat Ron Paul would have had. Don't worry- the Germans can't get to their Federal Reserve gold anyway.

In a rational person (which Rush is) all the facts, one’s beliefs and dreams merge with party team playing at some point, such that instead of a circular firing squad (which tends to be the majority of threads among the many “experts” at FR)you encourage a unified positive action in your listeners.

Rush always knew this was about turnout of people motivated to stop what they do NOT believe in continuing, using the practical fact that first we must remove the maoist. Thus the statement about polls designed to deny turnout. He knew that frankly, a nation that has 99 weeks times 2 of unemployment benefits, 23% real unemployment, 75% increase in food stamps/tradeable EBT cards, whiny student loan “occupiers” with trust fund marxists amongst them, and massive illegal alien “voters” all supportive of the buffet of govt. largesse that is distributed to them from the democrat party machine could not be overcome by a “bridge building” nice guy RINO governor from Taxachussetts vs. the nation's first white guilt socialist sepia toned sort-of “black” islamic choom gang president friend of Farrakhan & Wright, Cloward-Piven Alinksyite whose goal is the total destruction of our Constitutional Republic. It wasn't enough to overcome the fraud and the moron numbers.

We could not defeat a digitally sophisticated fraudulent Santa Claus— and Rush was right. You have only to look at Allen West's situation with NO support from the RNC against provable criminal fraud. Because RINO ROVIAN Bushies cannot countenance true conservatives in their organization and they would “rather lose with Mitt” than lose their meal ticket. Reagan had to fight these same people. We got to where we are by these elitists: GHW Bush who gave us Clinton,Bush 2 and now this obamination. And through it all the march of islamofascist fellow travelers to the world marxists.

It will take much stronger, more clever people than just sitting spewing “sickof” smugness for one’s own entertainment to get our Republic back. When the very FIRST thing said after this fraudulent election is to remove the 2nd Amendment- specifically private ownership of firearms, our last line against tyranny, we have a clue. Because it indeed doesn't matter how many votes are truly gotten— it matters who counts them. Cold comfort now is in the ten range. Deo Vindice.

90 posted on 11/12/2012 9:14:58 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: grumpygresh

re: “Could you imagine if Rush(or some other prominent conservative) was actually thrown in jail for not paying the fine or buying insurance? This could be a cause célèbre that could ignite a firestorm.”

I would hope that you would be correct, but after this past week’s election I really don’t think anything would happen beyond people just verbally objecting to it.

The leftist media, the Democrats, and the 47% would rejoice and Rush would probably meet with some type of “accident” or “commit suicide” in prison.


91 posted on 11/12/2012 9:23:19 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: JCBreckenridge

They won’t have to arrest you for refusal to pay the fine.

They will simply confiscate what you have.

UNDERSTAND the animal we are now cornered by.

The IRS was chosen to be the enforcement mechanism for a REASON.

CONFISCATION.

You WILL pay the fine because they will simply liquidate and seize what you have.


92 posted on 11/12/2012 9:26:53 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: John S Mosby
RE :’It will take much stronger, more clever people than just sitting spewing “sickof” smugness for one’s own entertainment to get our Republic back”

First it will take a reality check and understanding the real situation rather than wishful fantasy. Making believe your ‘party’ is winning when they are losing, worse yet convincing lots of others of a fantasy, is like putting blindfolds on so your army marches in the wrong direction.

How can Rush think Republicans are so far ahead of dems leading up to (each) election day, then the day after preach that our country is screwed because he was so wrong, yet again?

My point here is leading Republicans off a cliff is not doing anything positive.

Rush was not always like this.

93 posted on 11/12/2012 9:39:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: John S Mosby

Even this silly vanity, the author thinks that what Rush does with his personal health insurance means something to the rest of the country. He is just a another flawed human being, one with a large audience.


94 posted on 11/12/2012 9:43:28 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

The country is not like it was either, regardless of the core values which must not be abandoned. Like saying “amnesty” and the plain foolishness of the RINO leadership in supplying the answers from the democrat apparatchiks.

Current leadership is doomed to remain minority— like Bob Michel the textbook case of a “useful idiot”. Rush saw this coming each time, and each time (when you look at the total delivered message over time)and at a cut point each time, had to modulate with RINOs he cannot stand. Look what the dems are saying to our stupid leadership— and they are stupid enough to repeat it and take on the meme. They are IDIOTS, and high priced at that. And in the case of the “numbers”— are they real numbers or fabricated. If 11 million people didn’t vote that did last time- no model could have predicted that...and NO poll if they were fraudulent to begin with or real and un-reachable. None of this would matter if we had an informed electorate— not one informed by govt. schools and teacher’s union falsehoods in curriculum of our history and govt, and the acceptance of a Statist system.

There is a lot to be done to keep from being an irrelevant party. The candidate was wrong again despite many great qualities , but the opponent is even more anti-country/Constitution than we have ever known, with the goal of power at any cost and the complete ignorance of our Constitution—a dictator. It has to be continual consistent direct opposition, with positive productive alternatives that speak to true human nature— not wanting to be slaves to the all caring government. States Rights, defeat obamacare (and stop calling it that, by the way). Take back the Senate, repealing 17th Amendment-bring the control of 1/2 of one branch of our govt. back down to local control. And by this, more direct input into approval of foreign policy, treaties, and Supreme Court. Otherwise we are headed to irrelevance and totalitarian new world order (Bush I).


95 posted on 11/12/2012 10:03:32 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”Current leadership is doomed to remain minority— like Bob Michel the textbook case of a “useful idiot”. Rush saw this coming each time, and each time (when you look at the total delivered message over time)and at a cut point each time, had to modulate with RINOs he cannot stand. Look what the dems are saying to our stupid leadership— and they are stupid enough to repeat it and take on the meme”

I agree and disagree with you. the current R congressional leadership has no idea how to lead and failed. They should have been replaced after 2008.

But Rush is a different problem. I don't know what his motives really are but he gives the worst advice.

Take the debt limit fight last year. Rush was saying that voters want the government shut down, in spite of what happened in 1995. So some Republican fools in congress started saying in public “Yes, shut it down” making sure their side would lose a standoff.

By the time they realized as in 1995 that most voters dont want a shutdown, and instead that the way to win was to paint Obama as shutting it down, it was too late.

Once again after making those wrong moves and playing into Dems hands again, little was left but to surrender again.

Nope, Rush is a compass who always points in the wrong direction.

Lastly, Republican power losses help his $$$$ business. The hopeless seek those who say what they want to hear.

96 posted on 11/12/2012 10:27:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

You’re hopeless. You really shouldn’t be allowed by your husband out in adult company.


97 posted on 11/12/2012 10:45:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
RE :”You’re hopeless. You really shouldn’t be allowed by your husband out in adult company”

I like you, you are entertaining :)

98 posted on 11/12/2012 12:26:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: ballplayer
You win the Lottery,the Government is going to Pay for Yours,Dont worry,its only the working People collecting any salary who cant afford to pay for health Care who will be fined to Pay for theirs and yours.

Wrong. Neither my state's high-risk pool insurance program nor Medicaid will cover me. I simply have to do without medical care. Don't you worry, I won't be taking a dime from your earnings. I've always been one of the contributors, not a taker, so your resentments are unfounded.

99 posted on 11/12/2012 1:43:05 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

Sorry, no resentment was meant,I was just joking.


100 posted on 11/12/2012 1:51:35 PM PST by ballplayer
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