Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Horrible Showbiz Career Decisions (McLean Stevenson Effect)
Self | November 25, 2012 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 11/25/2012 7:06:22 AM PST by PJ-Comix

People in the entertainment business sometimes make horrible career decisions. This is what is known as the "McLean Stevenson Effect." Named after actor McLean Stevenson who played the part of Henry Blake in the hit TV series "M*A*S*H." Stevenson was unhappy with being part of an ensemble so after about 3 seasons left the show to become the lead in the "McLean Stevenson Show" which promptly flopped. His career never recovered.

Another victim of the McLean Stevenson effect was Shelly Long who was in the hit series "Cheers." She left after 5 seasons to become a movie actress but pretty much flopped in that endeavor.

Finally there was Jeff Conaway who starred in my own favorite TV series "Taxi." After 3 seasons he left the show with a one-way ticket to obscurity.

Who else made poor showbiz career decisions to become victims of the "McLean Stevenson Effect."


TOPICS: Humor; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: hollywood; mcleanstevenson
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-197 last
To: murron
Larry Linville? I always preferred him to preachy liberal Alan Alda, but most people didn't. He just wasn't likeable enough. He did marry five times, though, so maybe he put his energy into that.

Mike Farrell only seems to turn up in ads for the left-wing Nation magazine. A lot of people who "failed" as actors, though, go into producing and do alright. No need to worry about them.

151 posted on 11/25/2012 1:21:08 PM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle

You knew him?


152 posted on 11/25/2012 1:22:26 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine

Blake was the best charcter ever on TV IMO.


153 posted on 11/25/2012 1:23:30 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: murron

He left us too early.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Linville


154 posted on 11/25/2012 1:28:17 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: murron

When I was in college, I sometimes chauffeured visiting speakers in my (very old) car for a few days. Larry Linville was one of them. He was very nice and gracious, and showed a lively interest in my major, which was physics. He seemed like a very sharp guy and was also really quick-witted.


155 posted on 11/25/2012 1:55:13 PM PST by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: Jack Deth

David Krumholtz: Lost his gig as Morrow’s Brainiac brother, Charley and hasn’t done much of note since.


FWIW He’s got a new show called Partners on CBS.


156 posted on 11/25/2012 2:04:17 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: Road Glide

‘Then Came Bronson’ was great! Well produced and directed TV but it only lasted one season iirc, 1969-1970. Around 26/27(??) or so episodes were done and I have the full collection on DVD. (Now I’m gonna have to go find ‘em and watch a few, haven’t seen any of them for a while!)


157 posted on 11/25/2012 2:15:03 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: chaosagent

I thought “Partners” was already canceled?


158 posted on 11/25/2012 2:15:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 156 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Yeah, I didn’t realize Partners had already been canceled until my wife just told me.


159 posted on 11/25/2012 2:18:38 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: IronJack
How about Scott Baio’sHe did "Charles in Charge" for several years, and has a new series.
160 posted on 11/25/2012 2:23:08 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: US Navy Vet

And whatever happened to Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell from Prison Break? Neither was a very strong actor, but it’s amazing how you’re a star for three or four seasons of a show, then totally disappear into obscurity.


161 posted on 11/25/2012 2:51:59 PM PST by AmericanMermaid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine
Another big bust: Sherri Stringfield from ER, played Susan Lewis MD. Left after a couple of seasons, and the show ran for another 10 years. She'd be a zillionaire. Ironically George Clooney left ER, and DID make it big.

Suzanne Somers stupidly left 3s company, but she eventually became successful. Not for acting, though.

162 posted on 11/25/2012 3:29:12 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: boop

Suzanne Summers eventually did have another successful series with Patrick Duffy called Step by Step.


163 posted on 11/25/2012 3:40:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: All

Suzzane Somers had a VERY successful show (Step by step) with “Bobby” from Dallas. It ran for 7 seasons. That’s not exactly falling off the earth.


164 posted on 11/25/2012 3:56:01 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: jjotto
At least two TV series since Beauty, numerous TV series guest roles and movies, and an upcoming mini-series.

She was awesome as Chuck's mom on "Chuck". Just about a perfect casting for a show that played on a LOT of 70s-90s GenX sentimentality.

The real shame of that show is that they killed off Chuck's dad (played by Quantum Leaper/Enterpriser Scott Bakula) a season before she was written in, so the two never got to have a single scene (let alone a story arc) together.
165 posted on 11/25/2012 4:22:28 PM PST by tanknetter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
There is the situation where an act's second banana quits and subsequently proves that he was the real talent all along: The Dean Martin Effect

I can just picture Jerry Lewis watching the TOP TV show at the time, "The Dean Martin Show," in a dark room while simmering in his own jealous rage.

166 posted on 11/25/2012 4:56:46 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 107 | View Replies]

To: Georgia Girl 2

Wasn’t mcqueens series called wanted dead or alive?


167 posted on 11/25/2012 5:14:37 PM PST by morphing libertarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: Ransomed

I still like to watch the old westerns, but as I got older and read accurate historical portrayals of the real west, it took a lot of fun out of the shows. Like there was no fast draw gunfighters. And the sixguns of the day were wildly inaccurate, and nobody shot from the hip. And little or no quicksand. Every long-running western seemed to have one episode where the hero got stuck in quicksand.


168 posted on 11/25/2012 6:24:10 PM PST by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: Lx

This is why I love FR. I thought I was the only one who had seen this (let alone have it at home). It is very twisted, but extremely funny!! It is morer like an avant-garde film school project, similar in some way to German Expressionism...

Soundtrack by Danny Elfman and the mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo


169 posted on 11/25/2012 6:53:50 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

Pernell Roberts had a decent run on “Trapper John, MD”, based on an older current day version of Wayne Rogers character.


170 posted on 11/25/2012 7:43:16 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: IronJack

Not the same thing. Hat was a spinoff. And they went back.

And then he had Charles in Charge.


171 posted on 11/25/2012 7:44:51 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: driftless2

The movie western is truly part of mythology now. As far as being disapointed, well I reckon I still dig them even though it isn’t always realistic. Could be there were plenty of ancient Greeks who knew better as well, I imagine. If they have a good story I can look past a lot.

Freegards


172 posted on 11/25/2012 7:54:46 PM PST by Ransomed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 168 | View Replies]

To: Vinnie

Jason Alexander played a truly frightening character on “Criminal Minds”. I didn’t even recognize him.

I’ve also seen him listed as a director.

He’s doing just fine.

.


173 posted on 11/25/2012 8:33:33 PM PST by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

Matt LeBlanc(Joey) just won a Golden Globe for a BBC show he is in.

.


174 posted on 11/25/2012 8:43:30 PM PST by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: bt_dooftlook

The first time I saw it, almost thirty years ago, I was under the influence of some heavy hallucinogens. The next day, I made my friend play it again because I couldn’t believe what I had seen. It was just as weird the second time straight.

Great movie. Richard Elfman said he wanted to do a movie because it took a semi full of equipment to produce the Mystic Nights of the Oingo Boingo road show.

I’ve seen Oingo Boing three times with Danny at the helm and they are some seriously great musicians and their music is awesome as well.


175 posted on 11/25/2012 8:45:48 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: bt_dooftlook

I forgot, I have a copy as well. I loaned it to a friend and his wife wouldn’t let him watch it all.

One of the funniest scenes is when the big guy that doesn’t talk beats the ape character and when he’s done, it looks like he’s pounding ground beef.

The chick that says something like 10,000 years... was also in Wizards.


176 posted on 11/25/2012 8:49:22 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle
Is there another actor who was a side character on a series, then became a Name Lead in a decade running live sitcom, then was syndicated and on 3 times a day, tried out multiple other lead series, and finally found one with a character so vastly different you can’t believe it’s the same guy??

Yep.
Jerry Seinfeld's dentist, Tim Whatley comes to mind. From a sitcom dentist, to a sitcom dad to... Walter White, meth cook extraordinaire?

177 posted on 11/25/2012 9:11:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: ExNewsExSpook

Nobody but NOBODY has parlayed a TV career into crazy money like William Shatner. Last I saw his net worth was $650 million, including at least $600 million from his Priceline.com stock.


178 posted on 11/25/2012 9:16:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: Vinnie
Speaking of actors that went nowhere..'Kramer' from Seinfeld, Michael Richards. and 'George', Jason Alexander.

With the syndication money rolling in forever they don't need to work. Jason Alexander, though, still does alright. He was pretty good in 'Shallow Hal' and a guest role on 'Criminal Minds'.

179 posted on 11/25/2012 9:20:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: Jack Deth
Sasha Alexander: Thought NCIS was all about her. Left after three seasons.

I read that she couldn't stand the very long hours and thought the cast was overworked. Mark Harmon complained about the situation, too. Apparently the producer, Donald Bellisario, is a perfectionist who demands perfection from his actors and everybody else. In order to keep Harmon on the show, Bellisario finally agreed to turn the day-to-day reins over to somebody else.

By the way - trivia note: Donald Bellisario served in the Marines with Lee Harvey Oswald.

180 posted on 11/25/2012 9:28:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

He was probably tired of Sci-Fi after doing the epic Zardoz - LOL


181 posted on 11/25/2012 9:34:40 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: Beowulf9

That’s Clay Morrow, former President of SAMCRO, on the right.


182 posted on 11/25/2012 9:38:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | View Replies]

To: Georgia Girl 2
Of course look at all the success stories, Steve McQueen (The Bounty Hunter), James Garner (Maverick), Sally Field (The Flying Nun), Burt Reynolds (Riverboat and Gunsmoke0, Clint Eastwood (Rawhide), Pierce Brosnan (Remington Steele), Richard Boone (Have Gun Will Travel)

Bruce Willis (Moonlighting)

183 posted on 11/25/2012 9:39:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: Lancey Howard

Yep.
Jerry Seinfeld’s dentist, Tim Whatley comes to mind. From a sitcom dentist, to a sitcom dad to... Walter White, meth cook extraordinaire?


Wow, you are right!! Amazing! He is definitely the winner. Especially since he won best actor Emmys for most of the seasons! I’m no anti-dentite. Huge fan.


184 posted on 11/26/2012 7:17:59 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | View Replies]

To: Vision

He lived next door. His widow may still live next to my parents if she is still Irving.


185 posted on 11/26/2012 7:20:01 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies]

To: rbg81

David Hyde pierce is an amazing actor. The two of them were brilliant in their “brother” idiosyncrasies. All casting on that show was great.

And Niles, Martin, and Bulldog were all played by gay actors. It would be funny if the guy who played Gil, the restaurant critic, were straight. (Nope.)


186 posted on 11/26/2012 7:24:53 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: morphing libertarian

I think you are right.


187 posted on 11/26/2012 8:51:06 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix

***** “Ken Wahl of “Wiseguy.” ******

He was said to be the sexiest guy on the Planet... that was then... and now I’m 220lbs, Bald approaching 60 and currently I am twice as Sexy (and half his current weight)...

just thought I’d tweak the EX Wife.

But I really liked Wiseguy it was a good show

TT


188 posted on 11/26/2012 12:38:01 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix
Pernell Roberts left Bonanza over creative differences when the show was still going strong.

After doing a lot of regional theater he managed to sneak back onto television years later with Trapper John, MD, so I guess it worked out for him after all.

189 posted on 11/26/2012 4:31:09 PM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OldMissileer

Yup. She would’ve been absolutely killing it if she had been remotely decent to work with. She’s insanely jealous of anybody that has a bigger role than her and goes psycho at the idea of anybody telling her what to do. The A-list was hers to lose, she did, and she deserved it in spades.


190 posted on 11/27/2012 6:42:37 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: OldMissileer

Yup. She would’ve been absolutely killing it if she had been remotely decent to work with. She’s insanely jealous of anybody that has a bigger role than her and goes psycho at the idea of anybody telling her what to do. The A-list was hers to lose, she did, and she deserved it in spades.


191 posted on 11/27/2012 6:43:07 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

I did, but I was like 10. I liked the Rockford Files a lot more.


192 posted on 11/27/2012 6:47:07 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Fast Moving Angel

It sure did. I went from being a fun comedy to a full-of-crap socially-conscious sermon on pacifism every week.

The funny thing about M*A*S*H is how the leading actors inserted their egos into the show. When Alan Alda was the big dog, it was always about him being super-doctor, the guy who gets more women than Errol Flynn, and drinking everybody under the table. When Mike Farrel took control, it became a boatload of liberal anti-war tripe. The last 4 seasons were unwatchable. Liberals think they’re so hip and interesting. The last 4 seasons of M*A*S*H sure shows what a buzzkill they are.


193 posted on 11/27/2012 7:04:07 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: PJ-Comix
Finally there was Jeff Conaway who starred in my own favorite TV series "Taxi." After 3 seasons he left the show with a one-way ticket to obscurity.

if by obscurity you mean 'dead by massive drug use' then, yes, he lives in obscurity

194 posted on 11/27/2012 7:11:06 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: x

The Frank Burns character was manufactured to be the conservative caricature to be knocked down constantly. They made him a horrid character that nobody could like (except Margaret Houlihan, and she dumped him eventually), then stuck every conservative label on him they could as a way to constantly trash conservatism. Examples:

1. He was religious but was constantly lying, cheating, and stealing to portray religious people as liars, thieves, and hypocrites that screw around on their spouses.

2. He was always condescending to foreigners’ faces, cursed them behind their backs, and advocated the US getting out of the UN, thereby propagating the stereotype that you’re racist and horrible if you don’t want the United Nations running the world.

3. Frank would often talk bitterly about how other governments would run their countries into the ground while America built the best standard of living in the world. What he said was absolutely true but having it come out of a terrible person like Frank Burns was a way to denigrate conservative America.

4. Burns married into money, had two cars, and a big house. Because we “know” that anybody with money is a sniveling little weasel that didn’t earn it, they screwed somebody for it. (But somehow rich liberals are as good as gold and are magically exempt from this stereotype.)

There’s gotta be a ton more examples.


195 posted on 11/27/2012 7:57:59 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | View Replies]

To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Very well said!!!


196 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:54 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 193 | View Replies]

To: A_perfect_lady

I think Phillip Michael Thomas and Terence Trent D’Arby must have had the same agent. j/k


197 posted on 06/16/2013 12:38:09 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-197 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson