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What to do with free roaming cats?
11/25/2012 | Me

Posted on 11/25/2012 3:17:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco

There is a house cat that is being allowed to roam free. What do I do?


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To: Windflier
Outdoor cats are more likely to contract disease, get injured or killed. Also, contrary to popular belief, not all cats are hunters. Unless the cat’s mother teaches it to hunt, it won’t hunt. If it should catch something, it would be accidental, and chances are the cat won’t know what to do with it.
51 posted on 11/25/2012 3:55:31 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: null and void

This is the most sensible post on here. LOL


52 posted on 11/25/2012 3:56:56 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: mdittmar
Liquid Fence

Works rather well for keeping hungry Bambi's from eating my wife's roses. However, the resident stray felines still use the rose bed as a well tilled litter box so I can't say that Liquid Fence is the answer...

We live on a farm, people seem to drive out here in the boonies and dump their unwanted cats.. Of course, there are rodents for them to catch, but you can always tell when they show up that some of them have been pets. They are the ones that don't hide from humans, they beg instead..

53 posted on 11/25/2012 3:57:04 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I had a tom cat actually try to get through my screen (damaged it) until he realized I had a dog inside too!


54 posted on 11/25/2012 3:58:14 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Hot Tabasco

Tim Morgon, played in Newport Beach Calif. in the early 1960s, at a coffehouse named “The Prison of Socrates.”.

“The Cat Came Back” was one of his signature songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5tB9PxgkHY

He was quite good, but never made the really big time like other Orange County locals including Righteous Brothers, Steve Martin, Jackson Browne, etc.


55 posted on 11/25/2012 3:58:54 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Hot Tabasco

Canvas bag. Cinder lock. Pond.


56 posted on 11/25/2012 3:59:20 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

http://www.amazon.com/Havahart-5265-Detector-Sprinkler-Repellent/dp/B000BO71NY
Just in time for Cyber Monday


57 posted on 11/25/2012 3:59:52 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: NoCmpromiz

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Big_Cat_1200_and_1250/1280


58 posted on 11/25/2012 4:00:51 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Chickensoup

Chickensoup: thanks for the common sense. In my area, housecats roam the street night and day. Only the most neurotic people need to call the police, the humane society or buy traps. And with a wandering cat (feral or not), you will not see a mouse or rat.


59 posted on 11/25/2012 4:01:20 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Hot Tabasco

No, I don’t think you are out of line.

I suspect, though, that you will not trap it too quickly; cats are too wily.

Suggest you put the food near or on the cage first. Let it get used to being near the cage over the course of several nights before actually putting the food inside.


60 posted on 11/25/2012 4:01:35 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Windflier
should not be allowed outdoors in urban neighborhoods.

Why?

Because the streets in urban neighborhoods are littered with dead cats that have been killed by vehicles.........

When it comes to avoiding traffic, cats are just as dumb as squirrels..........

61 posted on 11/25/2012 4:02:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: null and void

ROFLMAO!!!!


62 posted on 11/25/2012 4:02:14 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Salamander

It seemed the proportionate response...


63 posted on 11/25/2012 4:03:51 PM PST by null and void (The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The complex can prohibit all they want to but if it’s not an ordinance violation by the city not much can be done.


64 posted on 11/25/2012 4:04:00 PM PST by Dusty Road
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To: NoCmpromiz

Different products for different critters available.


65 posted on 11/25/2012 4:07:55 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: miss marmelstein
“What kind of person are you? In my day, house cats walked the streets free of molestation! They add character and charm to the neighborhood and teach young kids how to interact with animals.”

***

For the record, I am owned by a cat. A cat or two has lived in my house since I bought it in 1989. My first cat came from a shelter. The rest were strays people left to fend for themselves. My second cat was skin and bones when I found her. I brought her in, fed her, and cared for her till she passed a few years ago. If I hadn't taken her in, she would have starved to death.

This isn't the 1950s when I was growing up and people were responsible for their pets. Today, people don't take care of their children, let alone their pets.

The kindest thing a person can do for a stray is to take it in. If the stray can't be kept, take it to a shelter where someone can adopt it and give it a good home.

66 posted on 11/25/2012 4:09:15 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: miss marmelstein
“What kind of person are you? In my day, house cats walked the streets free of molestation! They add character and charm to the neighborhood and teach young kids how to interact with animals.”

***

For the record, I am owned by a cat. A cat or two has lived in my house since I bought it in 1989. My first cat came from a shelter. The rest were strays people left to fend for themselves. My second cat was skin and bones when I found her. I brought her in, fed her, and cared for her till she passed a few years ago. If I hadn't taken her in, she would have starved to death.

This isn't the 1950s when I was growing up and people were responsible for their pets. Today, people don't take care of their children, let alone their pets.

The kindest thing a person can do for a stray is to take it in. If the stray can't be kept, take it to a shelter where someone can adopt it and give it a good home.

67 posted on 11/25/2012 4:10:09 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: miss marmelstein

They also kill songbirds and should be shot on sight. Quoth my birdloving Father -in - law. Personally, I would spray the patio the visitor hangs out on with Tabasco. As soon as it grooms itself, it will vacate the area.


68 posted on 11/25/2012 4:12:45 PM PST by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: cripplecreek
I caught my neighbor’s cat a few weeks back

Two years ago I caught a neighbor's cat. the first time I let it go and the second time I put in a pet carrier then walked down to her house to tell her I had it. She had been warned numerous times by the condo association but she firmly believed that just because she let her cats onto her front porch, they weren't going anywhere.

Well, I made her come down to pick it up and I never saw the cat again. What really pissed me off was the fact that this was a really friendly cat walking around in a subdivision with loads of traffic.........

69 posted on 11/25/2012 4:13:29 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I have one suggestion that WILL work because I’ve used it!

You will have to move your cat for a week or so. Borrow someone else’s yappy dog and let it defend your premises.

The cat will find some where else to hang out.


70 posted on 11/25/2012 4:19:12 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Your post is the most sensible one on here. My neighbors had a beautiful, soft, friendly gray kitten and turned it out in all kinds of weather. Recently, we got the after affects of Hurricane Sandy, and it turned rainy and very cold. This poor little kitten came to my door, hungry and shivering. I brought her in and here she’ll stay. They have been looking for her, but she isn’t in any hurry to go back with them. She’s quite happy here and well fed.

These neighbors have heathen kids who seem to love animals, but don’t have a clue how to take care of them. Did I mention that they also left her litter box outside in all kinds of weather and expected her to use it like that?


71 posted on 11/25/2012 4:19:50 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Hot Tabasco

I commented on what I think is the futility of using Liquid Fence to discourage Tabby from visiting, but before I totally evaporate into the woodwork, here’s another thought that probably would work although I have never used it with cats in mind.

Spray the bottom of your door and a portion of the deck floor with plain cheap ammonia. Cats have sensitive noses and that should discourage the furry critter. It keeps the local bear(s) (and racoons) from rooting in our garbage cans so that just might work. You would need to do it each day for a while until Kitty gets the message. Need cheap spray bottle from Home Depot, Lowes, Wallyworld and some generic ammonia (non sudsing). I use it full strength to keep Bruin away. I spray the outside of the cans, and spray each bag I toss in. Worst that happened is that rain washed off enough on the outside that Bruin knocked over the can. Managed to grab a bag and try to run off with it, got less than three feet and dropped his/her booty like a hot potato and ran..

If nothing else, if you have any friends in bear country, let them know about this (also keeps stray dogs away from stuff too..)


72 posted on 11/25/2012 4:21:17 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Get yourself a spray bottle and squirt the kitty with water. Just the sight of the water bottle totally has my indoor cat trained ;)

I care for a feral cat that lives in our neighborhood. When he first came around, there were a couple other cats too and it was clear they were not ferals but I was unsure if they might be strays. I took the Trap/Neuter/Release (TNR) class and got the trap. With TNR you trap the cat and drop it off for neutering and shots then you return it where it was. This is the most effective way to reduce feral/stray cat colonies.

Step 1 of TNR is to notify all your neighbors for several blocks that you are going to trap cats. Lo and behold, the 2 I thought might be strays were actually pets that lived on the street behind us. After that I only rarely saw those cats and one began sporting a bright orange collar. I suggest you try the “note on the collar”, if the owners are at all responsible they will curtail the roaming. Most likely they won’t though. In that case that I suggest water.

I don’t know why some people think it’s ok to allow their cats to roam and annoy all their neighbors, but in my experience is that there is no reasoning with them. The most common explanation I hear is that their cats would go crazy if they couldn’t go outside. The 2 cats I’ve owned were used, previous indoor/outdoor cats and both adapted to being indoor only very quickly and gratefully. A roaming cat is exposed to all measure of bugs and disease from other cats and wildlife, can eat dead, spoiled or poisoned things, are at risk for being attacked by other animals or people and being run over by cars.

My feral is very large and he went right into the TNR trap which was baited with tuna. However, he’s very large and the door didn’t get closed all the way and he was able to escape. He didn’t come around for about a week after that and would never go near the trap again. He is still intact and 4 years later getting fed twice a day when I feed my pets. The local bird and squirrel (yes, I have seen him dining on squirrel twice) population thanks me for it.

I used to allow him to rub against my legs (this after about a year of trust building) but he has bitten me on 3 occasions so I don’t allow contact anymore.


73 posted on 11/25/2012 4:21:58 PM PST by VA Red
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To: BenLurkin; Farmer Dean; Tabasco

Why not let the cat out to chase it off?

We had a similar problem a few years ago. A cat was showing up at night, and our male indoor cat would go crazy. The straw for me was our cat’s marking the basement window where he was seeing the other cat.

I thought I had cleaned all of the “marker” urine and treated it with enzyme formula, but apparently I did not get all of it. Next thing was that our kitty, who apparently could smell that urine in the basement, elected to urinate into the heating duct in the living room that was above the previously violated window.

I kept smelling it and then going back to the basement to clean some more. It took about 2 weeks before I realized what had happened. The smell was sometimes stronger and sometimes weaker, so he must have been using the heating vent multiple times.

So it took me a long time, but I cleaned and treated the dang vent. Well, the next time that cat showed up, we let our cat out to chase him off. Worked like a charm.


74 posted on 11/25/2012 4:22:04 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I wouldn’t say a thing to the owners. Just know that this troublemaking cat needs a free getaway vacation. Just trap the cat, take it on a nice long ride into countryside or the mountains, take a hike a little ways from road, and let the kitty go. Coyotes or another locally observant predator will have a nice and tasty meal!


75 posted on 11/25/2012 4:23:21 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Why not have it for dinner?
My cat is fat, so now I'll dine
And eat up all this cat of mine.
B. Kliban

76 posted on 11/25/2012 4:24:37 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

There is another option. You can put mothballs on your deck where the cat likes to hang out. Supposedly, cats are put off by the smell. I have never tried this, but I read about it somewhere.


77 posted on 11/25/2012 4:24:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Hot Tabasco

***why are you considering dropping one off ten miles from its home,***

My momma used to sing this song when I was young.

http://www.kididdles.com/lyrics/c020.html

Old Mister Johnson had troubles of his own
He had a yellow cat which wouldn’t leave its home;
He tried and he tried to give the cat away,
He gave it to a man goin’ far, far away.

But the cat came back the very next day,
The cat came back, we thought he was a goner
But the cat came back; it just couldn’t stay away.
Away, away, yea, yea, yea

The man around the corner swore he’d kill the cat on sight,
He loaded up his shotgun with nails and dynamite;
He waited and he waited for the cat to come around,
Ninety seven pieces of the man is all they found.

But the cat came back the very next day,
The cat came back, we thought he was a goner
But the cat came back; it just couldn’t stay away.
Away, away, yea, yea, yea

He gave it to a little boy with a dollar note,
Told him for to take it up the river in a boat;
They tied a rope around its neck, it must have weighed a pound
Now they drag the river for a little boy that’s drowned.

But the cat came back the very next day,
The cat came back, we thought he was a goner
But the cat came back; it just couldn’t stay away.
Away, away, yea, yea, yea


78 posted on 11/25/2012 4:25:10 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

free roaming dogs?


79 posted on 11/25/2012 4:26:50 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: mdittmar
Different products for different critters

True, but liquid fence tends to be expensive. See post 72 for another idea (although never used against felines I do know it is effective against ursines, canines, and whatevertheheck a racoon is... ;-)

80 posted on 11/25/2012 4:27:30 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Get a “Have A Heart” trap, put cat food in it, and after you get the cat trapped, bring the cat to a local no-kill cat shelter. :)=^..^=


81 posted on 11/25/2012 4:28:17 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ruesrose

In my area calling animal control is a certain death sentence for a cat. The cattery at the animal shelter is ALWAYS full and euthanazation is carried out pretty quickly if not immediately. There are numerous no kill groups in the area, however they are always full too.


82 posted on 11/25/2012 4:28:45 PM PST by VA Red
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To: Hot Tabasco

I hate that people think they can drop animals off in the “country”. Those feral cats take a toll on game and therefore if I see them while hunting I will shoot them, unless one of my kids is with me.

I don’t live in the “country” necessarily but close enough people think it is. I see feral cats around my house all the time, in fact I now have one that is a house cat. (I have 7 daughters so you know what that must be like.)


83 posted on 11/25/2012 4:29:27 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

84 posted on 11/25/2012 4:31:49 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

We have this in our townhouse community with dogs off leash and menacing other residents.

After you have spoken nicely to the pet’s owner once, then speak firmly next time. Or, you might remove the animal’s collar and tag, and only return if after 24 hours, with the stern objection to law-breaking.

If it happens a third time, take the animal by early morning light to another state, preferably at least 50 miles away, to a no-kill shelter. Most of the lazy stupid pet owners do not think to cross state lines when calling around to shelters looking for lost pets.

Be humane, but careful. Avoid cameras. Box the animal with airholes, or cage it under a blanket, with ventilation, food and water. Call ahead and say you have a stray and ask “What is the procedure for bringing it in? Do I have time to bring it in before my work shift? How long will it take?” If you are lucky, they will tell you whether they require ID or not, such as your license that can be traced.

Sheltering it far away will take the owner a really long time to find the animal, if ever, unless the pet has an ID implant. The unchipped pet has a chance to be adopted by a caring guardian. Even if the original careless owners do find it, the hassle to them will be worth your hassle and will probably stop their inconsiderate behavior.


85 posted on 11/25/2012 4:33:49 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Not only no, but HELL NO we will NOT moderate our stance."-- Jim Robinson)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yipes! I meant to address #74 to you and not your non-hot sister/brother.

Why not let the cat out to chase it off?

We had a similar problem a few years ago. A cat was showing up at night, and our male indoor cat would go crazy. The straw for me was our cat’s marking the basement window where he was seeing the other cat.

I thought I had cleaned all of the “marker” urine and treated it with enzyme formula, but apparently I did not get all of it. Next thing was that our kitty, who apparently could smell that urine in the basement, elected to urinate into the heating duct in the living room that was above the previously violated window.

I kept smelling it and then going back to the basement to clean some more. It took about 2 weeks before I realized what had happened. The smell was sometimes stronger and sometimes weaker, so he must have been using the heating vent multiple times.

So it took me a long time, but I cleaned and treated the dang vent. Well, the next time that cat showed up, we let our cat out to chase him off. Worked like a charm.


86 posted on 11/25/2012 4:36:18 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Catsrus

Of course, the children don’t know how to care for the kitten. The parents don’t know how and don’t care to learn how, so how can they teach the kids?

Bless your heart for taking the kitten in. I wouldn’t give her back to those people. She has a much better home with you.


87 posted on 11/25/2012 4:39:38 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Hot Tabasco

Do you know if the cat belongs to anyone? It could be a stray who’s decided to stay in your complex because someone (possibly a few someones) started feeding it.

A while back I had quite a few strays living in/passing through my back yard. I’m sure part of it was because I started putting out food to try and socialize a litter of kittens born to a stray in the yard (didn’t get the kittens, but we did get the mama; she’s a sweet kitty btw). I eventually bought a live trap. At first I left it propped open with food inside, and once the cats were used to finding food in it I started setting it. After the fourth capture I didn’t have nearly as many coming around; probably didn’t hurt that I stopped putting food out either.

Around here, animal care doesn’t come out to trap stray cats, and if you bring one in they usually neuter it and return it to the area where it was trapped. I haven’t seen any of them lately, but I did see at least a couple of the cats I trapped back in the yard.


88 posted on 11/25/2012 4:40:52 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: cyclotic
NOTE:It was a joke.

Oh, now you tell me...

89 posted on 11/25/2012 4:41:28 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Albion Wilde

If the cat has an PetID and keeps showing up at various humane society shelters out of state the owner may elect to keep it indoors all of time so it won’t wander away again.


90 posted on 11/25/2012 4:44:17 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

One day your cat is going to get out too. They always do. Leave the darn thing alone. Once it figures out that your cat’s not coming out to play it will find somewhere else to hang out.


91 posted on 11/25/2012 4:45:32 PM PST by babygene
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To: Bigg Red

Sorry, but allowing your pet to go chase a strange cat off is foolish. I would never ever allow my indoor cat or dog to have contact with the feral cat I feed. I have a German Shepherd and I would be distraught if the feral bit or scratched her. We have a high incidence of rabies in our area in the raccoon and fox populations. Also the local fox have an outbreak of scabies going on. My feral catches, beheads and eats squirrels. I would hate to see what he would do to one of my pampered, trusting pets.


92 posted on 11/25/2012 4:47:22 PM PST by VA Red
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To: omega4179

How Christian.

Borrow a trap from the nearest rescue or spay and release program. Once caught, take it to them and they’ll spay the kitteh and try to find a home for it.

Or do what I do. Grab the kitteh. Keep him isolated from you’re kitteh. Take him to the vet to see if he’s fixed or has a chip as well as healthy. If not, get both. Bring home kitteh and add to your collection.


93 posted on 11/25/2012 4:58:32 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Keep the canolies kitteh and leave the owner to live on the street. Keep in mind, it's the owner that's the moron here.
94 posted on 11/25/2012 5:00:53 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"There's only 72 units in my detached condo sub and we're surrounded by houses and other condos so putting out notices isn't sound advice........"

Fair enough, and I understand your frustration with the nighttime goings-on. But please don't just snatch the cat up and dump him somewhere. That would be cruel, and not the act of someone who has a heart for critters.

I don't know the best way to find the owners, but there has to be one. They're irresponsible and stupid, and they should be advised of that fact.

95 posted on 11/25/2012 5:05:17 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thank you, my FRiend


96 posted on 11/25/2012 5:05:40 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Lx

Someone smack me. Your not you’re.


97 posted on 11/25/2012 5:06:48 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Moving a cat away from its family and food source is cruel. In suburban areas, it’s normal for pet cats to roam freely outside. If this is colony of feral cats, that’s a different story. Trap them or call animal control to trap them, and take them to a shelter. If these are tame pet cats, leave them alone unless they are bothering you.


98 posted on 11/25/2012 5:08:34 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m not a cat lover but I have a soft spot for animals in general.

My next door neighbor had a Calico but would never let her in the house she fed and gave it water outside. When she left the area she couldn’t take it with her because it was feral and couldn’t get close enough to catch her.

I took over and fed her outside for more than 10 years but because she was an old cat, the other cats in the area would fight her for the food, she was just too old to fight anymore.

One day when I put food out for her, she ran inside and has stayed inside. It has been a long slow process as she started to transform back to domestic.

She now rolls around on the floor playing with her toys and acting like a kitten.


99 posted on 11/25/2012 5:08:34 PM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

In my opinion, it is unnatural and cruel to not permit cats to go outside. They have snakes and rats to kill. Unfortunately they may take out the low hanging fruit of the song birds, too.


100 posted on 11/25/2012 5:14:29 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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