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‘Transgender’ teen girl wins access to boy’s high school bathroom
lsn ^ | 12.4.2012 | Peter Baklinski

Posted on 12/04/2012 3:23:58 PM PST by Morgana

NEWCASTLE, Ontario, December 4, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A girl who identifies herself as a boy has been given permission to use the boy’s bathroom at her Ontario public high school.

Sixteen-year-old ‘James’ Spencer decided to change schools after she began dressing and acting like a boy. Officials at Clarke High School in Durham Region were at first reluctant to let the biological girl into the boy’s room, asking James to use a private washroom that required a key from the main office.

But James started a school-wide petition that eventually swayed the Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board to let her have her way.

“We decided it would be most appropriate ... and that’s the direction we’ve taken,” said Martin Twiss, the board’s superintendent of education to The Star.

The School’s dress code policy states that students are to dress “neatly, in good taste, and in a manner which is appropriate for the school, workplace or an out-of-school activity.”

Pro-family leaders warned earlier this year that McGuinty’s Equity and Inclusive Education (EIE) strategy would require school boards across the province to adopt policies that recognize special rights for self-identified homosexuals, transsexuals, and transgenders.

The EIE strategy, coupled with the passage of Bill 33 in June which add “gender identity” and “gender expression” as prohibited grounds for discrimination in the province, has “set the table for activism,” one critic told LifeSiteNews.

“Radical gay activists — inside and outside of the government — pushed to create a legal apparatus for their agenda,” said Jack Fonseca, project manager for Campaign Life Coalition to LifeSiteNews. “They have now began to push their ideas on children, prodding them to demand these crazy things as a ‘right’ with the backing of the newly created legal apparatus.”

Backers of Ontario’s Bill 33 boasted at the time that the bill would open the doors to “social change”.

But critics warned that the bill would result in social change that would threaten people’s safety by allowing men who dress and look like women to use public bathrooms, change rooms, and showers intended for women.

“This will represent a serious invasion of privacy and security for young girls and women. Imagine how it will put young girls and women at risk of being ‘peeped’ at or even assaulted by men who dress as women so that they can get closer to females.”

Last month a Washington state college decided it would not prevent a 45-year-old man who presents himself as a transgender “female” from lounging naked in a women’s locker room, in an area frequented by girls as young as six. Teenage girls on a high school swim team were using the facilities in September when they saw ‘Colleen’ Francis exposing male genitalia through the glass window in a sauna.

Former transsexual Walt Heyer told LifeSiteNews earlier this year that people who identify themselves as transgender suffer from a “diagnosable disorder” and that laws should not be enacted that encourage people in their disorders.

“It is so appalling to me, as a former trans person, that lawmakers today, who are motivated by sexual activists, are willing to legislate that society accept people who need psychiatric care,” said Heyer.

Heyer suggested that a more helpful alternative for people struggling with their sexual identity would be for lawmakers to “make available more accurate psychological treatment.”

Fonseca agrees with Heyer: “It is sickening to think of the harm caused directly to individuals who are encouraged to pretend they are the opposite sex. Schools are now cooperating in the psychological abuse of children.”

Fonseca worries that this kind of “social change” does not bode well for the future.

“If the state can make you profess against your conscience that a biological male is not really a man, what can’t the state compel you to do?”

Contact information: Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board 1994 Fisher Drive Peterborough, ON K9J 6X6

Toll Free: (877) 741-4577 Email: kpr_info@kprdsb.ca

Ontario Ministry of Education, Laurel Broten 14th Floor, Mowat Block 900 Bay Street Toronto ON M7A 1L2

Toll Free: 1-800-387-5514 Email: minister.edu@ontario.ca


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: arth; homeschool; homosexualagneda; transexual

1 posted on 12/04/2012 3:24:09 PM PST by Morgana
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To: metmom; wagglebee; little jeremiah

news of the day ping.


2 posted on 12/04/2012 3:25:01 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

“This will represent a serious invasion of privacy and security for young girls and women. Imagine how it will put young girls and women at risk of being ‘peeped’ at or even assaulted by men who dress as women so that they can get closer to females.”

Exactly. How are you going to restrict what kind of pervert uses the wrong bathroom?


3 posted on 12/04/2012 3:28:35 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Morgana

Wins. Such an odd use of that word.


4 posted on 12/04/2012 3:31:55 PM PST by DManA
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Another day, another reason to homeschool.

the only way I see this kind of insanity stopping is with a total collapse of society where people are so busy trying to simply survive that they don't have time for this kind of nonsense.

5 posted on 12/04/2012 3:32:06 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana
I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

Now where is my free money and grant for exploration.

In fact I want a special parking spot at every Walmart.

It's all about me, just deal with it and you won't get sued.

/s

6 posted on 12/04/2012 3:32:26 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Another day, another reason to homeschool.

the only way I see this kind of insanity stopping is with a total collapse of society where people are so busy trying to simply survive that they don't have time for this kind of nonsense.

7 posted on 12/04/2012 3:33:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana

If she still has standard equipment and if the boys showers are still the open area, multi-nozzle things, they are going to have to re-designate the class wood shop ;)


8 posted on 12/04/2012 3:33:09 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: Morgana
There I was, in France, at a very nice restaurant, standing at a urinal and noticing a woman entering to use a toilet. Upon seeing that, I looked back at the "Men" door that I entered ... and discovered that the "Women" door provided entry to the same room.

True story

9 posted on 12/04/2012 3:34:01 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Morgana

Why are we supposed to accomodate a mental illness instead of trying to cure it?

The first step in curing it is to announce: THAT IS NOT REALITY


10 posted on 12/04/2012 3:34:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

but it only takes one anonymous objection to stop a little girl from using the word GOD

the world is literally insane


11 posted on 12/04/2012 3:37:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

Yeah, I need to use the women’s shower at the college because I think I am a woman.


12 posted on 12/04/2012 3:37:57 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

Me too. It isn't fair I can't use the same showers as the girl's college gymnastics team. /s

13 posted on 12/04/2012 3:38:17 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: OldNavyVet

You gotta expect pervert heavy countries to have unisex bathrooms, even in schools


14 posted on 12/04/2012 3:39:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NonValueAdded

You can bet none of the boys voted against, even if “it” thinks its a boy.

Even in Canada the boys will just naturally be dogs. Won’t take long and “it” will be back in the girl’s Powder room.


15 posted on 12/04/2012 3:39:56 PM PST by X-spurt (Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
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To: Morgana

In the locker room, I don’t care what ‘gender’ you are, but biologically if you have the parts for a certain sex, then that’s what you are, and only then are you allowed in there.

Ideally it should be whether you have the Y chromosone or not, but at least you should anatomically appear to be what you say you are. By no measure should we allow the pervs to put their junk out there to the opposite sex to deal with, especially children.

And on that note, allowing this is one step closer to public, legally protected pedophelia.


16 posted on 12/04/2012 3:41:27 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

exactly what they want

pervs run this country, there is no doubt


17 posted on 12/04/2012 3:44:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

Now I’m confused. If she thinks like a boy, dresses like a boy, why the hell would “it” want to use the boys bathroom. I would think “it” would WANT to use the girls bathroom! Duh?


18 posted on 12/04/2012 3:51:58 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: 23 Everest

Good point.


19 posted on 12/04/2012 4:00:12 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: OldNavyVet

Happened to me in 1965. We were on a tour bus nearing the foot of Mt. Fuji. My buddy and went to what we thought was the men’s. We were answering nature’s call when a group of women walked right past us, on their way to the ladies section.


20 posted on 12/04/2012 4:03:02 PM PST by Ax ("Bring the Pikes Together for the Risin' o' the Moon.")
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To: GeronL

Some people just want to cause trouble as if there is not enough aggravation in the world all ready.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 4:13:18 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

Yep! Same here! I am a butch lesbian trapped in a man's body who dresses like a man and likes to drink beer and listen to hard rock and I DEMAND to use the female locker room. --particularly after cheerleader practice!

(Eventually, someone is going to play this card.)

22 posted on 12/04/2012 4:16:01 PM PST by Drew68
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To: GeronL
It's more than a mental illness, it's a curse.

Their reasoning has vacated their skulls. Only Yeshua can put it back for them.

23 posted on 12/04/2012 4:21:31 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Meanwhile instead of treatment society now encourages their mental illness


24 posted on 12/04/2012 4:24:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana
“If the state can make you profess against your conscience that a biological male is not really a man, what can’t the state compel you to do?”

Wow. From a Canadian.

Scary stuff.

25 posted on 12/04/2012 4:29:21 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: GeronL

Pagan is as pagan does.


26 posted on 12/04/2012 4:46:15 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Finny
“If the state can make you profess against your conscience that a biological male is not really a man, what can’t the state compel you to do?”

Wow. From a Canadian. Scary stuff.

Wow. Scary indeed.

27 posted on 12/04/2012 5:14:42 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: metmom

“. . the only way I see this kind of insanity stopping is with a total collapse of society where people are so busy just trying to simply survive they don’t have time for this kind of nonsense.”

Good observation. People once had to stay busy producing food or money to buy food; so had little time for foolishness after they’d satisfied their hunger; now the food stamps solve that “problem”. Of course, they’re settling for mighty skimpy eating.


28 posted on 12/04/2012 5:26:14 PM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: Morgana

When this girls is physically and sexually assaulted, she has no one to blame but herself.


29 posted on 12/04/2012 6:29:37 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: chae

No.

The person who does the assault is still a criminal thug better off out of society. I don’t blame the victim for the crime itself, I do blame the victim sometimes when they literally ask and beg for it.


30 posted on 12/04/2012 6:40:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; Tax-chick; little jeremiah

I suspect that enablers of these fantasy identity perversions are compensating for horrific mental or physical abuse suffered by these confused (destroyed) individuals.

They are conspicuously disinterested in uncovering the reasons for the sexual mis-identity, and instead embrace the dysfunction. Seems more like severe denial... let the poor kid live a miserable lie than root out the cause.

I was reading one transgender kid story a few months back and the background (mentioned in the context of “normal” family upbringing) was that the poor girl watched (in terror, no doubt) for years as her older sister was forced by the parents to wear girlie-girl dresses/outfits. Screaming, crying, the mother on an all-out power trip, the works.

It wasn’t hard to figure out that the younger one’s coping mechanism was to escape the dress code horror by insisting she was a boy so as not to be forceably dolled up in stupid ruffles. (I think there was a brother. He was left alone. Peace for boys; terror for girls.)

Instead of the parents admitting how *they* traumatized their children (esp. the younger one) with the clothing bullying (it sure appeared to be extreme and relentless, not just a matter of wanting a kid to dress for a special occasion), they embraced the damaged mental state they inflicted upon their own daughter. Oh yeah, great parents... so strong in standing in her defense. Absolutely sickening.

Behind every transgender and/or homosexual there is a high probablity of abuse. The perps are covering for themselves by attempting to normalize the damage they cause.


31 posted on 12/04/2012 7:33:40 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

I’ll ping this out tomorrow. I remember not too long ago reading about a boy who “identified” with being a girl. Surprise, surprise - his grandmother always called him a girl and dressed him in girl’s clothing. I remember some studies a few years back and about 80% of homosexuals admitted to being molested by an older homosexual as children or teenagers. Homosexuals are made, not born.


32 posted on 12/04/2012 8:51:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

The one example with the Mommy Dearest parent was particularly disturbing, because the mother was casually describing having these abuse-level power battles with the girls, as if it were perfectly normal, and that the younger one didn’t want to dress like a girl but like a boy instead. Well hellllo... the poor child was desperate to avoid ABUSE the only way she could figure, by insisting that she was a boy.

That one may have been “only” a destructive power trip (with no sexual issues per se), but who knows if the parent was punishing the girls for being girls. Too often these cases reveal parents who raise a child as the sex of the child they wanted, instead of the one they got.

Are these sorts of pathologies new, or was it that in the past, wacko parents like that were spotted by caring relatives and the children pulled out of those environments, and/or crazy mothers were dispatched to the loony bins.


33 posted on 12/04/2012 9:26:56 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

Coping mechanism for traumatising parents, you might be onto something

We’ll have to call it False Identity Behavior (FIB) for making it sound palatable.

We as a society should not be reinforcing this False Identity, we should be trying to bring them into a Real World Association (RWA). Sounds technicial and official and I just made it up, Psychiatrists are ALL quacks.


34 posted on 12/04/2012 10:03:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ezekiel; Morgana

These people with Fantasy Indentity Behaviors (FIB) are suffering from a lack of association with the real world, there has got to be some therapy to fix. Real World Association (RWA) links that were broken by Cognitive Traumatic Stress (CTS) such as you described need to be realigned.

Attempting to change reality to fit their Fantasy Identity Altered Environment (FIAE) is a recipe for disaster. Okay, I will admit that some of these past therapists meant well because they wanted to make it possible for the patient to associate with the real world even in an altered way but this is not working well at all. For anyone.

You cannot change reality to suit their disorder because it is simply impossible to have a different reality for everyone.

We must find a way to change the Fantasy Indentity to one that has some alignment with reality. You do not do this by accomodating the illness instead of the patient. Reinforcing the idea that their Fantasy Indentity is the real one just drives them farther away from getting the help they truly need.


35 posted on 12/04/2012 10:21:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: little jeremiah

Let us play psychiatrist. It’s easy, those crazy quacks do it everyday. The people running this country do not live in reality. They believe you can spend more than you make into eternity without negative consequences. It’s not just them, but “leftists” and other utopians (libertarians, monarchists, anarchists, “transgenders” etc) that live in a fantasy world.

It might be mommy or daddy’s fault. Maybe they really wanted a girl and they had you instead (or whatever) so they put all their hopes and dreams on you, forcing you to comply at least outwardly while on the inside you coped by creating your own world. “I’m a girl”, “I’m a boy”, “I’m a cat”, “I’m superman”.

Imagine mommy and daddy and psychonuts and “counselors” who said Yes, honey, you really are a cat. They go to court to have the school allow you to attend as a cat, to change the dress code so you can wear a collar with a little bell. They tell the world that you really are a cat because you wanted to be a cat. The demand laws be passed for Cat Identity types to be declared “normal”...

Your environment (mom, dad, school, pyschoworkers, therapists and politic activists) has conditioned a weak, defenseless you to be taken and molded into a person who demands the world tell him he really is a cat, that reality be denied just to make you feel normal. You need this because you have been conditioned to not be normal.

These people with Fantasy Indentity Behaviors (FIB) are suffering from a lack of association with the real world, there has got to be some therapy to fix. Real World Association (RWA) links that were broken by Cognitive Traumatic Stress (CTS) such as you described need to be realigned.

Attempting to change reality to fit their Fantasy Identity Altered Environment (FIAE) is a recipe for disaster. Okay, I will admit that some of these past therapists meant well because they wanted to make it possible for the patient to associate with the real world even in an altered way but this is not working well at all. For anyone.

You cannot change reality to suit their disorder because it is simply impossible to have a different reality for everyone.

We must find a way to change the Fantasy Indentity to one that has some alignment with reality. You do not do this by accomodating the illness instead of the patient. Reinforcing the idea that their Fantasy Indentity is the real one just drives them farther away from getting the help they truly need.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 10:32:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Imagine mommy and daddy and psychonuts and “counselors” who said Yes, honey, you really are a cat. They go to court to have the school allow you to attend as a cat, to change the dress code so you can wear a collar with a little bell. They tell the world that you really are a cat because you wanted to be a cat. The demand laws be passed for Cat Identity types to be declared “normal”...

Just change cat to "American", the collar and bell for one of those BO "Made in the USA" t-shirts and we are already there. The cats already vote with the same abandon as their happy dancing on a keyboard.

37 posted on 12/05/2012 3:23:09 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel; GeronL; little jeremiah

Very interesting discussion. I think that another element in the current proliferation of False Identity is that its cultural cachet is inviting more and more attention-seeking adults to project it on their children.

It is normal for young children, 2-6 years old, to be unclear about sex distinction and (social) gender markers. My Patrick didn’t have his hair cut until he was almost 3, and by then it had grown quite long; it was very curly, so the length was obvious only when it was being washed. For a while when he was 4 or 5, he would talk about things that happened “when I was a girl,” by which he meant before his hair was cut. My friend’s little boy, with three older sisters, would pretend he was a girl because he wanted to go to Girl Scouts meetings, where there was always a snack. (She made him a t-shirt that said “Troop 123’s Little Brother,” and gave him snacks!)

Sometimes boys who want to dress up will put on girls’ dress-up costumes or clothes, simply because they’re available. If you provide a ninja costume and a soldier outfit, the same boy will choose those. All these incidents can simply be left behind as the child grows and becomes more clear as to his/her biological sex and social gender, if parents treat them simply as something that comes up. “Oh, Frank, I see you want to dress up. Here, you can be an Italian assassin, like in Tom’s game, instead of a princess. Here’s your dagger!”

However, if the parents have been watching daytime tv and say, “Ooooooh, look! He’s TRANSGENDERED, just like that boy on Oprah!!!” they can program their son into a nutcase and cause him horrific problems for the rest of his life. Something that contributes to this is that our society has so narrowly defined the masculine gender, so that personalities or interests outside an extremely constricted range are treated as “feminine” in a boy. When I was a child in the 60s and 70s, there was a much wider range of acceptable appearance, behavior, and interests for the feminine gender, but nowadays, about all that’s socially acceptable for girls, even in infancy, is “sex object.” It’s not surprising that girls would want to break out of that ... and then run into adults saying, “Look she thinks she’s a boy ... she’s TRANSGENDERED, like that kid on ‘Regis and Kelly’!”


38 posted on 12/05/2012 6:27:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (Get another cat.)
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To: Tax-chick

exactly!


39 posted on 12/05/2012 2:14:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ezekiel

bump


40 posted on 12/05/2012 2:18:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tax-chick
For a while when he was 4 or 5, he would talk about things that happened “when I was a girl,” by which he meant before his hair was cut.

That's just it. A normal, rational adult/parent understands the limitations of a child's worldview and translates accordingly. The nutcases choose to take comments like that literally because they are unwilling to apply the slightest amount of sense/logic.

It's one of the most heinous and destructive examples of people who elect to be "children by choice" in order to avoid the basic responsibilities and accountability required in the adult world of reality.

No wonder people will beg for Obamacare even though the reality is that Obamacare is a death march. The simpletons cling to their childish healthcare-for-all fantasy because intellect and wisdom is something they willingly exchanged for the promise of free carousel rides, popsicles and lollipops.

They embrace and celebrate their reality-challenged offspring because after all, the poor kids were purposely molded into the image of the parents.

For all the work Cher has had done on herself to look "beautiful", the rot of her character is made manifest in the abomination known as "Chaz". Poor thing.

41 posted on 12/05/2012 5:59:03 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: GeronL
Imagine mommy and daddy and psychonuts and “counselors” who said Yes, honey, you really are a cat.

IMHO, your post is right on the mark. Many small children identify as something they're not - one of mine believed he was a dinosaur for the longest time. We were worried because he bit his brother once. Other children identify as cats or dogs. Imagine playing along to the point where you tell everyone to treat the child like a cat or dog, thus reinforcing that behavior.

42 posted on 12/06/2012 8:56:27 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Thank you, you are exactly right


43 posted on 12/06/2012 12:33:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

I guess the urinal is soon to become a relic of the past.


44 posted on 12/06/2012 12:37:54 PM PST by Cementjungle
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