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Vanity | Dec. 15, 2012 | Piytar

Posted on 12/16/2012 7:54:34 PM PST by piytar

Tried to send the following to the NRA:

Lifetime member here.

Simple question: why aren't you running short late night ads on TV that make simple irrefutable points? Example: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns." (Source: Lott interview). Just that text in white on a black background for 15 seconds, maybe with a zoom/fade effect.

Those ads would be cheap and much more effective than the echo chamber eflorts you spend far too much money on.

Regards, (Me)

PS I have literally dozens of these types of quotes, all fact based. I am sure you do, too.

But their website doesn't speak iPhone (d'oh), is just broke, or I'm technically inept tonight. Thoughts? Maybe some other Freepers could do it? Or a lot of Freepers?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; guncontrol; nra; secondamendment
See above. Thoughts?
1 posted on 12/16/2012 7:54:38 PM PST by piytar
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To: piytar

The MSM would charge the NRA so much that the organization would be broke very shortly.
That of course, is assuming that the MSM would even consider running a commercial from the NRA.

NRA Endowment member here.


2 posted on 12/16/2012 7:58:40 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: piytar

I sent them $35 bucks last night to renew my membership. We need to build up the war chest. We also need to unify the NRA and the GOA for this battle. Two forces- two generals-one agenda.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 7:59:02 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: piytar
Mass-Shooting Facts
4 posted on 12/16/2012 8:00:11 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: RC one

I think that there is just too much bad blood between the groups to cooperate on this. However, I might be wrong. I don’t know too much about what the GOA does these days.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: piytar

I imagine Barry’s toadies in his “media” are already out there rounding up body doubles to regurgitate to them, “I’m a Republican who vote for Bush, TWICE, and have a son who is a sniper in Iraq but I’m cancelling my NRA membership right now.” You know it’s coming. Get ready. I let my membership lapse. I guess I better get a little skin back in the game and renew it. It’s about to get ugly.


6 posted on 12/16/2012 8:01:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: txnativegop

A common enemy like this ought to be sufficient to set aside any differences between overwhelmingly like minded men and women.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 8:06:53 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: txnativegop

So run it through a front company?


8 posted on 12/16/2012 8:08:34 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: RC one

You must not forget how bitter the split was between the two groups.

There was some VERY VERY SERIOUS personal animosity between the different individuals involved.

I do think they should coordinate their efforts, but even that is probably too much.

Pride can be a dangerous thing.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 8:10:08 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: piytar

Possibly, but once it becomes known that the NRA has done that, it opens the door to charges of dishonesty about intentions.
Foolish I know, but liberals are not the brightest bulbs in the pack on the best of days.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 8:12:41 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: RC one

I’m also an NRA member.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 8:22:04 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella; txnativegop
I'm about to become a GAO member too for $20.00. Money well spent.
12 posted on 12/16/2012 8:28:36 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: piytar

Because the NRA is a gun control organization. That’s why.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 8:29:13 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: piytar

It would be a good idea, IMO, to strongly point out that tens of millions of gun owners are law abiding citizens that don’t run around with their “Assault Weapons” murdering people, and that the actions of a few demented individuals is no excuse to attempt to ban “Assault Weapons”.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 8:30:58 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: RC one
I sent them $35 bucks last night to renew my membership. We need to build up the war chest.

I started a new membership Friday night.
15 posted on 12/16/2012 8:35:00 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: RandallFlagg

Good for you brother. I imagine they’re raking in so much money right now, they’re having trouble counting it. I hope so. They’re gonna need it.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 8:37:19 PM PST by RC one (FU liberals.)
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To: piytar

Ok, there’s a reality here you should consider. The NRA is nothing more than lip service when gets down to the brass tax of really defending gun owners. Yes, they donate money, but far too often they donate to dems who are not truly pro 2nd Amendment. They give money to Dems who want magazine limits, bans on semi-autos, etc.

A couple of years ago at a hunting show, they had an NRA booth. The rep there was a former staffer of a member who is NOT truly for gun rights. He was even bad mouthing semi-auto rifles while talking to people. I’ve worked the Hill because of my career. And I was just shocked to see him of all people working as a public rep of the NRA who was supposedly defending my rights.

I too tried to send a message through their contact system. It would not let me complete it. If LaPierre keeps up the window dressing, why should I renew. They recently were on the side of an issue that was going to sell us out on ammo issues.

For close to 3 days now, gun owners have been under attack. And not a single peep out of LaPierre and the NRA.

Oh, and a tip. Elected Officials care about getting re-elected. Which is why the NRA gives donations to the Hill. However, don’t underestimate the impact your voice has if you call your Congressman and tell them you back their next primary opponent or opponent if they give in and take away your gun ownership rights. And that includes having 30 round magazines and semi-autos.

And I said call. Do not fax. Call them. If you know people in other Congressional districts, tell them to call. Trust me, it works. You can also usually send an e-mail through their write the rep system. I know the NRA lobbys...but trust me, if the Congressional members do not get calls or letters, they’ll think that the NRA is blowing smoke and that they can vote for whatever and be fine.

I know most people say that well, they’ll vote that Congressman out if they vote that way. Guess what...it is too late then. Damage to your rights are already done.

If you want to give money to the NRA, hey, that’s your biz. I’m just telling you. You need to call your Congress member and Senator. Trust me, they all check in with their DC Staff and District Staff to see what the call numbers are on an issue...for or against.

Keep in mind, their DC Staff is nothing more than kids who were college interns, who went straight to staff. No real world experience. And their experience is in Washington...a liberal bubble. They are clueless to fly over country. Yet, many of the members listen to the DC staff for some crazy reason.

Again, and I don’t care if your member is a died in the wool conservative, if they don’t hear from you, don’t be surprised if they vote for some gun control.

Not tryng to be a bummer here. Just some reality from someone who had the “joy” of working that dreadful scene.


17 posted on 12/16/2012 8:57:14 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: piytar

Ok, there’s a reality here you should consider. The NRA is nothing more than lip service when gets down to the brass tax of really defending gun owners. Yes, they donate money, but far too often they donate to dems who are not truly pro 2nd Amendment. They give money to Dems who want magazine limits, bans on semi-autos, etc.

A couple of years ago at a hunting show, they had an NRA booth. The rep there was a former staffer of a member who is NOT truly for gun rights. He was even bad mouthing semi-auto rifles while talking to people. I’ve worked the Hill because of my career. And I was just shocked to see him of all people working as a public rep of the NRA who was supposedly defending my rights.

I too tried to send a message through their contact system. It would not let me complete it. If LaPierre keeps up the window dressing, why should I renew. They recently were on the side of an issue that was going to sell us out on ammo issues.

For close to 3 days now, gun owners have been under attack. And not a single peep out of LaPierre and the NRA.

Oh, and a tip. Elected Officials care about getting re-elected. Which is why the NRA gives donations to the Hill. However, don’t underestimate the impact your voice has if you call your Congressman and tell them you back their next primary opponent or opponent if they give in and take away your gun ownership rights. And that includes having 30 round magazines and semi-autos.

And I said call. Do not fax. Call them. If you know people in other Congressional districts, tell them to call. Trust me, it works. You can also usually send an e-mail through their write the rep system. I know the NRA lobbys...but trust me, if the Congressional members do not get calls or letters, they’ll think that the NRA is blowing smoke and that they can vote for whatever and be fine.

I know most people say that well, they’ll vote that Congressman out if they vote that way. Guess what...it is too late then. Damage to your rights are already done.

If you want to give money to the NRA, hey, that’s your biz. I’m just telling you. You need to call your Congress member and Senator. Trust me, they all check in with their DC Staff and District Staff to see what the call numbers are on an issue...for or against.

Keep in mind, their DC Staff is nothing more than kids who were college interns, who went straight to staff. No real world experience. And their experience is in Washington...a liberal bubble. They are clueless to fly over country. Yet, many of the members listen to the DC staff for some crazy reason.

Again, and I don’t care if your member is a died in the wool conservative, if they don’t hear from you, don’t be surprised if they vote for some gun control.

Not tryng to be a bummer here. Just some reality from someone who had the “joy” of working that dreadful scene.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 8:57:29 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: piytar
Simple question: why aren't you running short late night ads on TV that make simple irrefutable points?

Simple Answer: That's not really the goal of the organization.
The NRA is not for the repeal of GCA or NFA, or really anything of lasting consequence. Look at how, in the last few cases, the NRA has pushed for very narrow interpretation of firearm-favorable judicial cases... even when the courts gave indication of being quite open/receptive to a more broad opinion. (In my more cynical moments I think the NRA would be for more restrictions on firearms if the 2nd Amendment were near-strictly followed... for the same reason that the department of welfare has no interest in eliminating/greatly-reducing dependents.)

19 posted on 12/16/2012 9:43:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lurker
Because the NRA is a gun control organization. That’s why.

Could you elaborate on that, perhaps with some links?

20 posted on 12/16/2012 10:20:47 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ArmyBratproud; piytar
Thanks, ArmyBratproud and piytar. They need to hear from us, as you know the bleeding heart "it's for the children" liberals are going to be pushing the lies of the gun-control sewer rats.

Call the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at

(202)224-3121

and ask for your Senator's and/or Representative's office.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 10:57:53 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: piytar
Here is another thing that should be made into a late night ad: http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=-ExC7fE1LaY

Gun banners have decided she should have been raped or killed (perp was strangling her when she made the fatal shot).

Our job: make them face the evil they empower.

BTW offended a moderately pretty leftidiot tonight when discussing this. Fell just fine with that...

22 posted on 12/16/2012 11:05:58 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Lurker

Sadly, you may be right...


23 posted on 12/16/2012 11:07:21 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

Why aren’t the republicans making htese points? They shoudl have immediately come out and said that there were already thousands of gun laws o nthe books, but that this CRIMINAL MASS MURDERER IGNORED thsoe laws, and that if security guards were allowed ot carry on campus, then that punk woudl have been shot dead before inflicting so much damage-

Where are the republicans calling for calm and callign for the left to stop their knee jerk reactiosn? All we hear abotu in the news is that guns shoudl be outlawed- banned- every day all day- where are the reports shwoing that havign armed security guards greatly reduces the risk of these types of incidents? The republicans are once again tuckign tail and allowing hte left ot win their unconstitutionally motivated war on America


24 posted on 12/16/2012 11:19:19 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ArmyBratproud

[[For close to 3 days now, gun owners have been under attack. And not a single peep out of LaPierre and the NRA]]

Nor a single peep out of hte republicans


25 posted on 12/16/2012 11:22:19 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Nope. GOP is hiding. A lot of good all the checks and shoe leather have done us. Soon it will be blood.


26 posted on 12/16/2012 11:51:01 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

>>>”when gets down to the brass tax of really defending gun owners”

LOL!

Brass TACKS.

(Too much thinking about “Fiscal Cliff” issues!)


27 posted on 12/17/2012 2:50:15 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: txnativegop

“You must not forget how bitter the split was between the two groups.”

We are facing a stark reality. In the very near future this administration is going to launch an all out offensive against us. I have no doubt that as I writw this there is group of leftist fanatics planning a policy and PR offensive. With that in mind we are going to need all hands on deck. NRA, GOA, and anyone else should forget the infighting until our common enemy is beaten.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 7:37:04 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: piytar

Something like this, perhaps?

http://youtu.be/rs_EJW2WOFA


29 posted on 12/17/2012 7:47:19 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: GoodDay

Yup, pretty much, but toned down a bit. The idea is to repeatedly expose late night viewers to the facts in a quiet manner. They’ll pick up on those facts without even realizing it...


30 posted on 12/17/2012 10:15:14 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I fully agree, but I am concerned that certain personalities within the groups will put their personal grievances ahead everything else.

I hope that doesn’t happen. You are correct, we definitely need all hands on deck for the coming assault.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 10:31:26 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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