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Please Pray For My Mom... and Advice-- Is this the Obama Death Panel in action? (Sad update #118)
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Posted on 01/06/2013 12:00:02 AM PST by MacMattico

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Please read MacMattico's account of his mother's situation. May God protect her!

81 posted on 01/06/2013 10:02:56 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Please read MacMattico's account of his mother's situation. May God protect her!

82 posted on 01/06/2013 10:03:30 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MacMattico

If she is at Crouse or Upstate, get her out of there. Take her to St. Joe’s!


83 posted on 01/06/2013 10:06:56 AM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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If she is at Crouse or Upstate, get her out of there. Take her to St. Joe’s!

Gerish seems to know the hospitals. Take her to St Joe's. The Catholic Hospital!

We're all still praying. All things good come from Him.

84 posted on 01/06/2013 11:00:29 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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Prayers sent for Mac and his mother.

May God comfort you.


85 posted on 01/06/2013 11:09:21 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Gerish; MacMattico

I like your tagline.

I was at Crouse recently and received quite different care and quite a different attitude.

However, I am still reasonably young and we’ve got good insurance through mr. mm’s job.

Nevertheless, that is disturbing as those are THE hospitals to go to.

I would also like to know which hospital it is, although I fully understand not wanting to divulge personal information that could possibly compromise a person’s screen name.


86 posted on 01/06/2013 11:13:54 AM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Prayer’s up for you. I really don’t have any advice to add, but thew rest here seemed to have provided a lot of good advice. All I can say is it seems to me the doctors and the rest are walking a fine line that is easy to cross into the world of murder and manslaughter and I see Bronco Bamacare and Mengelecare doing the same thing. Yes, we all pass on, it is life, but it is up to God to decide not doctors or bureaucrats.


87 posted on 01/06/2013 11:24:35 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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try to get her wishes for a Living Will

I don't know about NY, but in many States hydration is considered medical care, thus bypassing the purpose of a Living Will. According to the National Right to Life Committee, the laws of all but twelve states may allow doctors and hospitals to disregard advance directives when they call for treatment, food, or fluids. If your mom is able to express her wishes and sign anything, you need a WILL TO LIVE. You can download one, legal for your State RIGHT HERE.

This Death Panel thingy has been going on for a little while now. Last year, one of my husband's Sunday school class members died of cancer. He was a veteran in his 70s. They found a few spots in his lungs, treated them with radiation and everything was fine. A year later they found another spot. The doctor said "it was not safe to give him any more radiation" and sent him home to die.

88 posted on 01/06/2013 11:58:13 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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Amen.

A Catholic hospital would be excellent.


89 posted on 01/06/2013 12:11:03 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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I am praying that GOD’s will be done here for your mom and your family and the cause of life.

Take notes after converstations like you are a court reporter in case you end up suing the doc for murdering your mom so you might be able to help others. Have witnesses if you can.

The death panel’s mentality has yet been tested in court.

Do contact Terry’s brother and see what they say. Do replace the doc if you can. Do consult other docs to see if withholding nutrition makes sense in treating her...rather than killing her.

No matter what, your mom is in the hands of Jesus, so don’t panic. You, too are in the hands of Jesus and He will guide you. You are like a pioneer in this new realm of liberalism’s authortarianism within the culture of death. Don’t be afraid about “hurting the doc’s feelings.” Challenge him. Get in his face. Get bottom line statments and record them.


90 posted on 01/06/2013 12:17:55 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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Praying....praying....praying...


91 posted on 01/06/2013 12:57:50 PM PST by yellowdoghunter
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To: metmom

Crouse is in trouble financially. If you are not dying, you will probably receive excellent care there, but personally, I wouldn’t step foot in a hospital that does abortions i.e. it tells you alot about how they view life in general, and it is not a Catholic hospital! St. Joseph’s would never deny compassion or simply hydration for that matter. They are very dedicated to compassionate care.


92 posted on 01/06/2013 1:08:51 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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Back again today and praying for you and mom again. This time weeping. Brings back so much pain about my mom's treatment. I'm 61 now,... what has happened to our country? I just can't believe where we are. When I was growing up, doctors loved their patients. Today they love the government subsidy. It's just too much for everyone to be a medical expert and a legal expert to have to advocate for a loved one. Why isn't the doctor and advocate? I just can't believe the evil that has been released in this country.

For me, this has become simple. God said all men are evil. There is none good, no not one. The heart is evil, who can know it? Well, we took God out of the country years ago. We now depend on these people and their morals. Where did their morals come from with no God allowed? We are paying the price now. The seeds have been sown and now we are reaping that crop. Why are we so surprised that the towers fell, the economy collapsed, and Obama was re elected? When you give evil men power over you, why are we surprised when they seek to kill you. America is finished, we just haven't died yet. IMO, gun control will be the last nail in the coffin. We will officially be slaves to men led by Satan.

The doctors and nurses may seem perfectly kind to your face, but I assure you, they are having meetings daily to see who will literally die tomorrow. I don't want to go into it right now, but my wife literally saw and heard these discussions about her brother. He was gravely ill with no insurance. They spoke daily about moving him out where he would not be allowed to come back. We fought for a year against the hospital and he lasted a year. But they fought TPN the whole way because it was $800 a bag. He couldn't even swallow his own spit without throwing it back up. He had a suction on his stomach, but his nurses gave him pills to swallow. His meds went to his stomach and were sucked into his suction jar immediately. We showed the meds in the jar to his nurse and she just walked off. More than once we heard Dr Red Duke say he wanted him "outta here". He finally died after a year of neglect and active assault on his health. He was 45. It's about the money.

93 posted on 01/06/2013 1:24:28 PM PST by chuckles
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**Our family Priest has says she has a right to hydration and nutrition**

Absolutely. Can you get her into another facility?


94 posted on 01/06/2013 1:35:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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95 posted on 01/06/2013 1:38:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The sleepiness could be due to the diabetes. Can you give her non-sugar pudding, etc.?


96 posted on 01/06/2013 1:40:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Find out if they are giving her morphine. If they are, ask that her pain be handled with vicodin.

Get her off the morphine. They will keep increasing it, until she dies.


97 posted on 01/06/2013 1:42:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Prayers and please also get legal advice!


98 posted on 01/06/2013 1:50:17 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MacMattico

I read at wiki that there are 3 Catholic hospitals in the Syracuse diocese, one (St Joseph’s) in Syracuse itself tho one google entry didn’t speak well of that hospital’s ER. You might ask your priest if a transfer to a RC hospital where she’d receive better care would be feasible. Or a nursing home run by the diocese, or even one he’d recommend.


99 posted on 01/06/2013 1:54:10 PM PST by EDINVA
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Bumping your information for Mac

Good to know that the hospital that Mac’s mom is in does abortions. They don’t care about life. Get her to the Catholic hospital! ASAP

Prayers for your help.


100 posted on 01/06/2013 1:59:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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