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Posted on 01/08/2013 10:49:42 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans

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Wife and I are looking into buying a gun for the sole purpose of self defense/home safety. Neither of us has owned a gun nor know anything about guns. Silly question but do gun shops usually have ranges to rent/test guns? Also, any recommendations for guns for home safety? Thanks
1 posted on 01/08/2013 10:49:44 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Some gun shops also have ranges and will rent you different firearms to try out on the range. Call and ask, you will quickly be routed to a gun shop that will meet your needs.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:24 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Yes, One for you and one for her. And soon!


3 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:28 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

For home use only, get a Mossberg 500 shotgun. 2nd choice = a Ruger GP100 revolver.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 10:53:58 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Check one of my threads on purchasing a gun. I received great information.

This thread is going to get big, fast.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 10:54:18 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Want freedom? Think WWRRD? Then do it.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

For home safety: Keep the part of the gun where the bullet comes out pointed away from things/people you don’t want to shoot.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 10:54:23 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Depending on your state you may have several nearby ranges which have rental guns.

Since you are a newbie, I would recommend a revolver. They are much easier to shoot and care for than a semi auto.

.38 special is a good caliber to start with. Good luck!


7 posted on 01/08/2013 10:54:27 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

This thread’ll go 150 replies.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 10:55:00 AM PST by carriage_hill ("I meant to say maggot, but I have a lisp.")
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Check these guys out. Most gun shops LOVE to show Newbies the ropes: http://www.armsdealer.net/businesses/category/gun-shops/louisiana/new-orleans


9 posted on 01/08/2013 10:55:22 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

If you expect to get information about firearms on this forum then I’m afraid that you are out of luck. There is little interest in the subject at FreeRepublic.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 10:55:36 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Bass Pro Shop.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 10:55:36 AM PST by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Some will have test ranges, most will not. I’d recommend joining the local rod and gun club. Not everyone has the space that I do and can just set up a range on their own property.

Everyone will have different opinions on what is best. Most agree on a few things. 1. A Marlin model 60 .22 caliber rifle is a must have. 2. A good pump action 20 gauge shotgun is a must have. 3. Optionally a larger caliber scary “assault rifle” I consider a must but that’s me. I have a Saiga 7.62x39 but good luck finding anything like that now.

Anyone who tells you a hollow point .22 can’t do damage doesn’t know what they’re talking about. I personally plan on getting at least two more of them, one for son and one for wife. Tube feed. They always get under the ban radar, even Feinstein’s new bill.

Oh, and by the way, I gave all my guns away, uh, to my brother in law, yeah. That’s the ticket.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 10:55:55 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

And don't forget the yard sign.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 10:56:25 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
My wife and I were in the same position about two years ago. The gun shop recommended that, for first time gun owners, the easiest to learn was a revolver, so we bought a .38 Special.

Once you buy the gun, make sure you and your wife put in some practice time on a gun range. (A lesson or two wouldn't hurt, either.) A gun you haven't learned to use properly is more of a danger to you than a bad guy.

14 posted on 01/08/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Link ?


15 posted on 01/08/2013 10:56:47 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I don’t know the answers but you are sure as heck asking the correct questions. As a group, gun store owners are very knowledgable and will help you probe your needs. It’s not like shopping at Best Buy where the sales kids don’t know dick. Speaking of which, don’t go to Dick’s.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 10:59:18 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I lost all my guns and ammo in a horrible boating accident


17 posted on 01/08/2013 10:59:27 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Beginners should start with NRA Certified training

I would recommend training
from an NRA Certified Instructor in

Refuse to be a victim
NRA training for women
Basic pistol
Personal protection in the home
and the newly released
Personal protection outside the home

NRA Gun Safety Rules

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

NRA T/C CRSO

18 posted on 01/08/2013 11:00:57 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: al baby

19 posted on 01/08/2013 11:01:38 AM PST by TSgt (...voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

As a starter
Go to a reputable (indoor) gun range.

They usually have guns to rent so you can try different models/calibers before you buy. What you might like, your wife might not (and vice versa).They often offer shooting and gun handling courses. And I’m certain they will have an opinion on what you need or want the gun for (but remember - they are also sales people,,,)


20 posted on 01/08/2013 11:01:47 AM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

For home self defense I like a shotgun with a load that will not penetrate a typical wall in the home. there is less chance of getting someone in the next room. pump action is scary sounding to.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 11:03:16 AM PST by Lysander (vices are not crimes.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Lots of shops have ranges where you can rent weapons to try them out.

People seem to like shotguns for home defense. I don’t actually have a shotgun, though.

For an all-purpose handgun, get a 9mm — Glock, Walther, S&W, Heckler & Koch. My personal choice is the HK P30. A little expensive, but extremely reliable.

I like .45s a lot — particularly 1911s — but, since you’re getting one for the both of you, get a 9mm instead. The .45 is just not a womens’ caliber — too much bang for her small frame. My wife doesn’t like the .45 at all.

Good luck.

SnakeDoc


22 posted on 01/08/2013 11:03:33 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Come and take it.)
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To: TSgt

LOL


23 posted on 01/08/2013 11:04:12 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I have been shooting for 40 years. If you don't have military pistol experience, then I always suggest a 6 shot .38 special revolver for a first handgun. Very simple to learn with. Up until a few weeks ago you could find a very good used Smith&Wesson model 10 for between $250-$275. Ultra accurate and reliable.

Don't know if the chaos of the past few weeks have effected revolver prices as most experienced shooters are going the high capacity semi-auto pistol route.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 11:07:17 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------ The New Gold)
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To: al baby

Every gun I used to own got stolen too.


25 posted on 01/08/2013 11:07:21 AM PST by Lysander (vices are not crimes.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Some gun stores will have ranges but most do not. Get instruction first and then rent some different guns to see what feels comfortable. I think a long gun, especially for a new shooter, in a house is not the best idea in a house. They can be hard to swing in hallways and other confined areas. I would recommend a Glock G19 in 9 mm. The manual of arms for the Glocks, once a round is chambered, is the same as a revolver: Point gun at target and pull the trigger. I have had 6 Glocks and all of them, except one I bought used, have been completely reliable. The gun is also small enough to carry concealed if you go that route eventually. My daily carry is a Glock G23, .40 caliber version, in an in the waistband holster and it’s comfortable enough I can forget it’s there. Whatever you get practice with it all you can and get instruction.


26 posted on 01/08/2013 11:08:21 AM PST by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Two shotguns for close-up (in or near home) defense. One for you, one for her. Blast does damage to target, but is less likely to go through walls and harm your neighbors. Aim for center of mass. Go with 12 gauge, a common size.

Two hand guns for close-up tactical defense. One for you. One for her. Easier to conceal and carry if you have to be on the move. Go with 9 mm, a common size.

Make sure that both you and your wife practice with each firearm.

Do NOT get a concealed firearms permit. You do NOT want to inform your enemy that you have firepower.

Store the firearms in separate locations. Primary and backup. Split up your ammunition as well.

Buy as much ammo as you can afford. You can use it for barter is necessary.


27 posted on 01/08/2013 11:08:46 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: SnakeDoctor
The .45 is just not a womens’ caliber

My soon-to-be 16 year old daughter begs to differ. She knows her way around a 1911.

28 posted on 01/08/2013 11:10:11 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Thanks for asking this I find myself in the same situation.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 11:10:30 AM PST by funfan
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To: Perseverando
Here's my new yard sign.

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30 posted on 01/08/2013 11:12:13 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: TSgt

Every time I see this I giggle like a school girl.


31 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:02 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: aimhigh; stuck_in_new_orleans
For home use only, get a Mossberg 500 shotgun. 2nd choice = a Ruger GP100 revolver.

I agree with these choices, but with the caveat that you need to make sure your wife can handle them, too.

That means the shotgun might be a 20 gauge instead of a 12 gauge, and the revolver might be a Ruger SP101 instead of a GP100.

The post about getting some good training is excellent advice, too.

32 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:07 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Almost every person you meet at a gun store will bend over backwards to help you get comfortable with using a gun safely.

Just go, tell them exactly what you told us (that you are newbies) and you will get all the help you ever wanted or needed.


33 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:24 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

There are ranges which will allow you to rent and fire a variety of guns. I would also recommend a class on basic firearms for both of you. Also consider, if you are not ready to shoot someone and kill if you have too don’t buy a gun.

As for a firearm, if it is solely for home defense and there are no children in the home I would recommend a S&W or Ruger .357 magnum revolver with a four inch barrel. Don’t let the term magnum scare you. You can fire P+ .38 spl. rounds from this gun and with it’s heavy weight it will take away most of the recoil from the .38 rounds.

If there are children and you want an semi-automatic pistol any 1911, Beretta 92, or Ruger P series. I didn’t mention a Glock simply because of its unique safety which might be an issue for a new shooter, but if you intend to train a bit go for it on a Glock.

You might also consider a potent man stopper for home defense as well the pump shotgun. I would suggest a limb saver accessory and a 18 to 24 inch barrel would be my suggestion. A Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 will do nicely.

Above all learn and practice the four rules of shooting and you will be fine.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 11:14:32 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Perseverando
Sharing your pic with friends & family.

The only thing better is to have your local newspaper print a list of armed homes so criminals know who isn't armed.

35 posted on 01/08/2013 11:16:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
If you can only have one gun, get a 12-guage pump shotgun with a smooth bore (i.e. not a slug gun). It is easily the most versatile firearm that anyone can own. The Mossberg 500 is cheap and robust. The Maverick 88 is cheaper and is just as robust. The Remington 870 is tried and true. There are other brands. Almost all of them are suitable for home defense. Select a self defence load, though. Don't use bird shot (#6 - #9).

If you must have a pistol, go with a standard size revolver (not a snub or "airweight" with a 4" barrel in .357 Magnum. The kick isn't bad in a standard frame gun and it hits much harder than .38 Special. Taurus and Ruger make inexpensive revolvers. Smith & Wesson makes expensive ones. They all work well. Fixed sights are preferable for home defence.

36 posted on 01/08/2013 11:20:37 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I personally recommend 9mm. Big enough for stopping power and still controllable for a woman.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 11:20:43 AM PST by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: aimhigh

I have a Mossberg, bolt action, 410 I got as a young lad in 1965. I will not be using it for hunting. I have been thinking about cutting the barrel and stock down, but since it is bolt action don’t know is this is a good idea.

What do the experts here think?


38 posted on 01/08/2013 11:23:03 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

A couple of good rules derived from my experience and others:

1. If it feels good in your hand it is a candidate.
I have never handled a revolver that did not fit my hand. The conical grip is designed to fit your hand as well as your wife’s hand. Semi auto fit to my hand is not good as most of the grips are too large.

2. Recoil is subjective and it is also affected by the position of your hand. .38 has pretty low recoil and is a good learning tool.

3. The gun you buy now will probably not be the gun with which you finish. Your needs will change as you progress in your skills.

4. Revolvers can use wax bullets (google it, very cheap ammo) semis can’t. They probably can but getting the wax out of a semi auto would be problematic to say the least.

5. Used revolvers may be a good deal for you. They are generally well maintained and will continue to shoot well.


39 posted on 01/08/2013 11:23:51 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Disambiguator

Never said they can’t use them. Most women just find the 9mm a lot easier to handle than a .45. That’s especially true for the uninitiated, like the wife of the guy asking the question.

SnakeDoc


40 posted on 01/08/2013 11:23:52 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Come and take it.)
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To: aimhigh

I’ll second that Mossberg 500 tactical suggestion. Just the sound of racking the weapon will make most criminals run.


41 posted on 01/08/2013 11:24:41 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Mossberg 590 pump 12 ga with ghost ring sights for him. Buy #4 shot for home defense.

Colt Agent .38spc revolver for her.

42 posted on 01/08/2013 11:25:11 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Disambiguator

I was in Cabelas (Hamburg PA) on Sunday (The Lords Day) and there was not one (1) single box of 00 buckshot in 20 gauge on the shelves. Quite a bit of 00 buck in high brass 12 gauge though so I had to settle.

Right before Christmas in that same store there was a full pallet of PMC 223 (REM) at the checkouts for $6.49/box. Saturday not a single round of 223 or 5.56 of any manufacturer in the entire store. I would imagine (but I’m sure someone here knows exactly) that a pallet of 223 is what, half a million rounds or more?

They did have a reasonable supply of pistols available. Mrs fatboy almost puicked up a Baretta 9 mm to add to her collection.


43 posted on 01/08/2013 11:25:38 AM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I saw where somebody already suggested a pump shotgun. Stay away from pump shotguns. They are good defense weapons, but for somebody not experienced with guns, in the heat of stress, you'll likely forget to pump a second round. That kind of delay is very bad.

Actually, stay away from shotguns altogether. In the typical residence, in hallways, etc, there's just not enough room to maneuver. Plus, you typically would enter a room barrel first, which, given the length of a shotgun, would allow the bad guy to grab the barrel, wrest it out of your hands, etc.

There will also be semiauto weapons recommended. Again, stay away from these because for the novice/occasional shooter, the whole process of loading a magazine, pulling back the slide, safety/no safety, etc, can be kind of daunting for the novice/occasion shooter.

I also saw the Ruger GP100 revolver recommended. It's a 357 magnum and is an excellent choice. That revolver, or any quality revolver, is perfect for your circumstance. The average gunfight is over after about 3 shots, and the Ruger holds six. Once it's loaded, all you have to do is point and pull the trigger. No worrying about pumping the action, pulling back a slide, safety/no safety, etc.

Also, with a 357 magnum revolver you can practice with lesser expensive 38 special rounds, then load the gun with plus P 38s, or even 357 magnums, for home defense.

Good luck

44 posted on 01/08/2013 11:25:57 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Winchester Defender pump shotgun

FN Five Seven handgun - high capacity, low recoil, light, good penetration but not too much, highly accurate

S&W .357 revolver - can use high power mags, .38 specials, or .38 wad cutters for practice

45 posted on 01/08/2013 11:28:20 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: al baby
"I lost all my guns and ammo in a horrible boating accident"

You too? There's a lot of that going around...

46 posted on 01/08/2013 11:28:41 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

For home use nothing sounds like a pump shotgun.


47 posted on 01/08/2013 11:29:15 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: SnakeDoctor
Never said they can’t use them. Most women just find the 9mm a lot easier to handle than a .45. That’s especially true for the uninitiated, like the wife of the guy asking the question.

Maybe my daughter is wired differently. She has shot .45 ACP, 45LC, and now she wants to try .454 Casull.

Good thing I reload. :^)

48 posted on 01/08/2013 11:30:54 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: TheRhinelander

I am also totally new to guns although I have my permit now and am planning to buy my first for protection and spite. So here it goes, my 1st dumb question: revolvers, pistols, shotguns, handguns, rifle, what’s the difference between all these??


49 posted on 01/08/2013 11:31:50 AM PST by parisa
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To: SnakeDoctor
Tolerance for recoil is difficult to predict and isn't always related to build or sex. Some small women can shoot .45s all day, and some large men will complain about the recoil after just one mag.

A real deal-breaker for anyone are the sharply checkered grips common on older handguns. Even shooting a .380 can get tedious if the grips are biting. I mind shooting a checkered .38 far more than shooting a smooth .45. I guess you eventually get used to it, or get gloves.

50 posted on 01/08/2013 11:33:24 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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