Posted on 01/11/2013 4:44:07 AM PST by voicereason
Dr. Onaka’s Letters of Verification were used by Arizona Secretary of State Bennett and Kansas Secretary of State Kobach to approve Obama for those states’ ballots not to disqualify him from the ballot.
We’ll all have to continue waiting to see what Federal Judge Wingate in Mississippi does with the third Onaka Letter of Verification.
Trying to parse attorneys’ words leads nowhere. The matter (and the letter) is in the hands of the judge. He will either grant or deny the Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings.
Just to clearify things.
Dr.Taitz submitted a copy of the LFBC in her First Amended Complaint in Missippi (page 69 of 157). Like several of her exhibits the LFBC copy was faded. Attorney’s for the MDEC included in their Memorandum Brief of Authorities in Support of Motion For Judgement on the Pleadings, a copy of the LFBC. In Footnote 10, they noted,
“10. See FAC at page 12 ¶ 1 and page 36 ¶ b. Although Plaintiffs do attach a couple copies of the LFBC to their FAC, it – Like many of Plaintiffs exhibits – is barely legible. While Plaintiffs reference the COLB in their Complaint (at page 36 ¶ b), the MDEC was unable to find a copy of that document contained in Plaintiffs voluminous and disorganized exhibits. Therefore, the MDEC has attached to its Motion a legible a copy of the LFBC (Motion Exhibit 1) and COLB (Motion Exhibit 2).”
Dr. Taitz then filed a motion for sanctions claiming that the MDEC attorneys had “uttering forged documents and attempting to incriminate this court and making Honorable Judge Wingate and Honorable Magistrate Anderson complicit in aiding and abetting forgery by seeking a judicial notice of forged documents.”
MDEC attorneys filed a response to her motion that they had not asked the court to take judical notice of the LFBC but only of the statements made by Health Director Fukino. Later they filed a motion to supplement that response and included the Dr. Onaka verification.
....I don’t even know what to say.....
surely you kid me....you just did say what you wanted to, as usual
Bennett said he would put Obama’s name on the ballot as long as he received ANYTHING from Arizona. He received a verification that Obama has a non-valid HI BC and did exactly as he had said he would do. The request for a letter of verification was nothing more than a desperate attempt to get the Arizona Tea Party off his back, and he basically acknowledged that before Onaka sent him a word.
Unfortunately for him, though Onaka provided a fig leaf for Bennett in the eyes of the ignorant masses, what he actually did was expose Bennett’s nakedness for the willing world to see, because Bennett put Obama on the ballot even though Bennett had received proof that Obama had perjured himself to get on the AZ ballot. Bennett had a legal excuse to put Obama on the ballot as long as Hawaii kept quiet, but Onaka’s verification took away Bennett’s only excuse: ignorance. Bennett cannot claim ignorance. He was informed by an attorney of exactly what Onaka’s verification said and what it meant.
Wingate is going to do the same thing all the corrupt judges have done - just as I have predicted all along, before the decisions were rendered. That’s because we don’t have the rule of law any more, and Soros has made threats to all of these guys.
We will soon be reaching the point where these judges, justices, Pres. Bush, VP Cheney, Biden, Hillary, Bill, Boehner, etc will realize that Soros is going to fire his economic gun to destroy America even after his hostage leaders have done everything to appease him - just because that was his whole intention all along. He told both Obama and Hillary that ahead of time. Obama agreed with Soros’ plan, because he is a foreigner who hates America. In the words of Jesus, he is a hireling who cares nothing for the sheep so he runs when the wolf appears.
Actually he is hired by the wolf, but it is made easy to do because he is a foreigner. In fact, if we ever had the rule of law he would argue that it is not treason because he’s not an American. This is why he wants captured enemies to be tried in civilian American court: he knows he is one and doesn’t want the Marines to have a chance to “interrogate” him after all he’s done to them. He’d rather have the corrupt bleeps he’s threatened try him if the truth is ever allowed to come out.
In the Day of Justice what I’ve said will stand while those of you on the wrong side weep and gnash your teeth. You can have your temporary laughter today; enjoy it while you’ve got it because it’s not going to last.
No, what I really wanted to say was ...
Orly Taitz is an incompetent lunatic attention whore.
Butter, I pray the day will soon come when all of your efforts and the efforts of others involved in exposing the fraud in the Oval Office will be rewarded.
I know you are prepared for the arrows coming from the front, but it is the arrows from behind which are the most hurtful.
Dismiss them,for only those in the arena obtain the glory because they risk something, unlike the spectator who safely seated, can make discouraging comments.
God bless you and keep you.
Nobody said anyone was under an obligation to submit any particular copy. The point, which apologists don’t seem to want to admit, is that it should have been EASIER and much more legally compelling to get one of the TWO alleged hard copies of Obama’s alleged LFBCs than to request a vague letter of verification from an agency that previously had shown little willingness to cooperate. If these lawyers were actually defending Obama, then they shouldn’t need to obtain third-party evidence on solely on behalf of the MDEC, as was specifically requested. As for what evidence the plaintiffs use, they obviously did NOT have any easy access to one of the two alleged hard copies that the defendants’ lawyers should have had.
Interesting. So they only presented their own printouts/photocopies because of legibility?? It should have been a lot easier and much more legible just to submit ANY of the alleged hard copies of the LFBC and COLB that Obama (or more likely his campaign) already possesses.
MDEC attorneys filed a response to her motion that they had not asked the court to take judical notice of the LFBC but only of the statements made by Health Director Fukino. Later they filed a motion to supplement that response and included the Dr. Onaka verification.
That's a lot more effort than should have been required to simply get one of the two alleged hard copies of the LFBC that Barry already has. Weird.
Bennett said he decided to approve Obama for the ballot without actually reading the letter of verification. Kobach did NOT use his letter of verification to approve Obama.
“That’s a lot more effort.”
Not really. The defense attorneys know that there is not a court in the US that would not readily accept the white house pdf as proof of birth in Hawaii. I suspect the letter of verification was requested to show how frivolous the claims of fogery are and it will be used when they seek sanctions and legal fees. They have already sent Dr. Taitz notice that they intend to do just that.
By the way you Prog... we are going to win, with you or without you.....thank God for patriots like Orly.
Concur and prayers for Butterdesillion....
“Bennett cannot claim ignorance. He was informed by an attorney of exactly what Onaka’s verification said and what it meant.”
Neither can any of the 50 states’ Attorney Generals or 50 states’ Secretaries of State, all of whom received the exact same letter from Larry Klayman. And all of them ignored the letter.
That leaves several possiblities, 1) they deliberately chose to break the law and become accessories or 2) they disagreed with the legal position stated in the letter.
Did any of them even respond to Mr. Klayman?
I spoke to the legal counsel for my own SOS, and he said it was none of Nebraska’s business what Onaka verified to other states, and that Nebraska law doesn’t require the certification from the DNC to be LAWFUL (non-fraudulent and non-perjurious) so even if the signers were sitting in jail for fraud and perjury, Obama’s name would still be on the ballot.
First he said that the body of the letter wasn’t addressed specifically to John Gale (implying that he didn’t have to read it) so I asked if he had read it. Yes, he had read it. Then he tried to say that Bennett had never even asked for male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama to be verified. I had to show him the “in addition to the items to be verified in the attached form...” statement. Then he went into the reasons it doesn’t matter if fraud and perjury were committed, and that NE doesn’t have to care what Onaka revealed to anybody else...
He was not able to refute the legal reasoning. He eventually tried to say that there might be a birthday card from somebody that would prove he was born in Hawaii. I said that it would have to be LEGALLY DETERMINED. No lawyer or average citizen can look at a birthday card and legally determine somebody’s birth facts from that. There are procedures that have to be followed in order to make legal determinations, and that’s when evidence like birthday cards would come in. But Obama has not allowed that procedure to happen. Without doing so, he has no LEGALLY DETERMINED birth facts.
The guy acted like he didn’t know the difference between somebody CERTIFYING that a legal fact is true, and somebody off the street pretending they are judge and jury, over and against Hawaii statutes.
Some SOS’s responded to my personal letter that I sent, totally ignoring the substance of what I had sent - as if they didn’t even read the letter. Sickening.
Thank you. Very perceptive, and the communist and Islamist methods of infiltration are alive and well - ESPECIALLY in places considered credible, which is the whole point.
At this point anybody who is arguing against efforts to expose Obama’s crimes and ineligibility is for the other team, IMHO. There’s not an election to win so “embarrassment” doesn’t ring true for a reason. At this point we’ve got nothing to lose, so taking the time to argue against this rather than just ignoring those threads is a sign of allegiance to the enemy. IMHO.
Please explain away the frivolous claims of forgery shown here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2977726/posts?page=11#11
With patriots like Orly Taitz, who the hell needs terrorists like Bill Ayers?
Today’s lesson is brought to you by the letters ‘P’ and ‘L.’
This is a patriot:
Kentucky Sheriff to Feds: ‘You Are Never Going to Pull Guns Out of Jackson County’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2977876/posts
This is a lunatic:
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
You’re welcome.
This is still more effort than simply presenting one of the two allegedly certified documents already obtained by the co-defendant — the actual document should be irrefutable proof if it was actually submitted to the court (providing it’s valid). A letter of verification that doesn’t legally verifiy any birth facts doesn’t show the claims of fogery to be frivolous.
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