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"Do not turn off your computer" [Grammar Vanity]
1-12-2013 | re_nortex

Posted on 01/12/2013 3:39:35 PM PST by re_nortex

I typically spend 94.37% of my computing time in the Solaris or Linux environments but today was one of those occasions when I ventured outside my comfort zone, launching into Windows 8 for a brief while. A series of updates were available and upon the recommended reboot, I was greeted with this message:

Windows Update: Do not turn off your computer.

Of course, the Unix platforms have never been noted for the precision of their error and informational messages (the notorious "not a typewriter" as a catchall for an invalid ioctl). Yet the syntax of the Microsoft message struck me as a bit odd, almost a bit like Pittsburghese. I would think a more apt phrasing would be Do not turn your computer off as a cautionary message while the updates were being applied.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: grammar; microsoft
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To: re_nortex

I thank you again.


51 posted on 01/12/2013 5:23:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: re_nortex

It is a good thing I did not write the code.
The message might very well have been, “WTF are you doing you dumb ****! Don’t turn off the ****ing computer during a ****ing code update!!


52 posted on 01/12/2013 5:26:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, there are the prescribers and the describers. Describers wave the white flag from the start, prescribers defend the fort.

We lost on “pro-active”, I admit, but “its” != “it’s”, sorry!


53 posted on 01/12/2013 5:27:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: mylife
“WTF are you doing you dumb ****! Don’t turn off the ****ing computer during a ****ing code update!!

Mom? Is that you? I thought you were dead.

/johnny

54 posted on 01/12/2013 5:31:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Got an RS-232 breakout box?

I do.

55 posted on 01/12/2013 5:34:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper
☺ LOL

I know some coders that got in trouble for having colorful language in the debug code.

"Syscon **** the bed again"

We can't sell that in the final product!

56 posted on 01/12/2013 5:38:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cruising Speed
Because “turn” and “off” have to be together. “Turn your computer off” is incorrect. “Turn off your computer” is correct. Learn English.

Exactly so. Another pet peeve of mine:

To boldly go
When it should be:
To go boldly

57 posted on 01/12/2013 5:40:47 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: mylife
I still have one, too. I don't know the last computer I owned with a native RS-232 port on it. I've still got some gear for ham radio like the PK-232MBX that require one, so I finally found an RS-232 to USB converter that actually does work like a tty port.

/johnny

58 posted on 01/12/2013 5:41:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I work on some fancy stuff that the engineers forgot to put serial ports on so I can look at basic processes.
Oh, there are workarounds but wouldn’t it be nice to be able to monitor the boot process on all the processors without the overall OS coming up?


59 posted on 01/12/2013 5:47:10 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: re_nortex
    So Make It!
 

60 posted on 01/12/2013 5:49:27 PM PST by mikrofon (N-gauge)
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To: re_nortex

A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.


61 posted on 01/12/2013 5:51:10 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Teddy Roosevelt, perhaps one of the most manifestly religious presidents (at a convention Roosevelt cried out, “We stand at Armageddon and we battle for the Lord,” and also made a 90 minute speech after being shot in the chest and bleeding - and carried the bullet for the rest of his life), was also a writer and reformer in that regard. He ordered the Government Printing Office to use new simplified spellings of 300 words. But due to strong opposition he rescinded the order.


62 posted on 01/12/2013 5:51:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: mylife
Lots of the little SBCs seem to come with a serial port and monitor program.

If I'm bare metal on a system, I want that, and the ability to read and change the monitor program from the monitor program.

I've ported some stuff to the bitty little SBCs, and having an "Oh my!" port to examine memory can be a lifesaver.

Cooks can do that kind of stuff. ;)

/johnny

63 posted on 01/12/2013 5:53:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: norwaypinesavage

In other words, with a preposition is something you should never a sentence end?


64 posted on 01/12/2013 5:55:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: daniel1212
Teddy Roosevelt, --snip-- also made a 90 minute speech after being shot in the chest and bleeding

Can't shut a frigging politician up....

/johnny

65 posted on 01/12/2013 5:55:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yeetch!

Beat me by two hours


66 posted on 01/12/2013 5:55:55 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: JRandomFreeper

BTW, I had one heck of a time finding a RS-232 to USB program that would work with windows 7 to run my Ten Tec RX320D, but I did finally find one and now it works like a hose.

I remember when UART was a big deal.
Back in the day, I helped develop a UART box that would let you command individual processors in a complex system when the main frames were offline.


67 posted on 01/12/2013 5:56:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: re_nortex
...should of...

Were you just joking when you wrote that?

68 posted on 01/12/2013 5:59:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Revolting cat!
Your name, and the subject of prepositions... leads to a story. Yeah, I know almost everything does.

3rd or 4th grade and we were working on parts of speech, and learning to identify prepositions... and the teacher said "A preposition is anywhere a cat can go". FLASH! There it was. Under, over, through, with, along, beside...

Made diagramming sentences ever so much easier.

/johnny

69 posted on 01/12/2013 6:00:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s best to check the eggs before you bake the cake.


70 posted on 01/12/2013 6:02:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I don't do windoze. I'm allergic. If I can get a device to show up in /dev and it sorta acts like a tty, I can manage. I've got source code I can steal and massage and call my own.

/johnny

71 posted on 01/12/2013 6:03:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife
That's why I miss EPROMS and paper tape programmers. Much more forgiving.

/johnny

72 posted on 01/12/2013 6:05:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye
...should of...

Were you just joking when you wrote that?

Absoutively. :-) Along with "I could care less", the widespread use of "should of" and "could of" are the little annoyances of which I shall no longer put...up...with. Pshaw!

73 posted on 01/12/2013 6:07:05 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: stormhill

Grammatically, there is nothing wrong with the sentence.


74 posted on 01/12/2013 6:30:11 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Yep. "Printer on fire" is still a valid error message for an unknown printer error.

Classic. Bad things happen when the magic smoke escapes!

75 posted on 01/12/2013 6:46:07 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: re_nortex

I had a feeling I was being sucked in with facetiousness. Tricksters abound! ;^)


76 posted on 01/12/2013 6:58:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: zeugma
lp0 on fire is old. You should google it to get the original story. I'd tell it but it's best if you get it from the source.

Read the source, Luke.

/johnny

77 posted on 01/12/2013 6:58:09 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye; re_nortex
Were you just joking when you wrote that?

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

/johnny

78 posted on 01/12/2013 7:00:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Did I buy a used truck from you once? heh


79 posted on 01/12/2013 7:03:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
All sales are final.

Nope. Never sold used vehicles. Much.

/johnny

80 posted on 01/12/2013 7:09:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cruising Speed

“Because “turn” and “off” have to be together. “Turn your computer off” is incorrect. “Turn off your computer” is correct. Learn English.”

No, they don’t. Either is acceptable. English has hugely flexible word order, and turn off is not, as someone seemed to think, an infinitive. It is a phrasal verb that with a non-pronoun object can be split or not split. With a pronoun object, it must be split i.e. turn it off, not turn off it.


81 posted on 01/12/2013 7:37:43 PM PST by MikeGranby
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To: daniel1212

Also, if you are one of those grammar experts, it is most correct (at least in America) to place a reference within the comma or period (Jn. 3:16) or after it? I usually do the latter.

I do as.

No wait, I mean Do as I...no, no...

As I do.

That’s better!


82 posted on 01/12/2013 8:45:35 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: re_nortex

Until Microsoft starts calling their glitches “undocumented features” I could care less about the grammar they use.


83 posted on 01/13/2013 7:07:22 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Enough already! :)


84 posted on 01/13/2013 7:32:22 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Cruising Speed
Because “turn” and “off” have to be together. “Turn your computer off” is incorrect.

Can I still do it tho?

85 posted on 01/13/2013 7:38:21 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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