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"Do not turn off your computer" [Grammar Vanity]
1-12-2013 | re_nortex

Posted on 01/12/2013 3:39:35 PM PST by re_nortex

I typically spend 94.37% of my computing time in the Solaris or Linux environments but today was one of those occasions when I ventured outside my comfort zone, launching into Windows 8 for a brief while. A series of updates were available and upon the recommended reboot, I was greeted with this message:

Windows Update: Do not turn off your computer.

Of course, the Unix platforms have never been noted for the precision of their error and informational messages (the notorious "not a typewriter" as a catchall for an invalid ioctl). Yet the syntax of the Microsoft message struck me as a bit odd, almost a bit like Pittsburghese. I would think a more apt phrasing would be Do not turn your computer off as a cautionary message while the updates were being applied.


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To: re_nortex

No, “do not turn off your computer” is correct.


41 posted on 01/12/2013 5:01:49 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: re_nortex; ShadowAce
Larry Ellison appreciates you using Solaris. ;)

I'm the same, Solaris and linux. Don't mess with Windows much anymore outside my son's lappys with Win7 and what work requires (which is server side only).

Pingin' another techie..

42 posted on 01/12/2013 5:06:01 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: moose07
I had no idea Welsh had a word for computer. But it's a flexible language, too.

/johnny

43 posted on 01/12/2013 5:14:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: re_nortex

So, the consensus appears to be that when you yell at your kids: “TURN IT OFF!”, you are abusing Queens English, because the correct yell is: “TURN OFF IT!” ?


44 posted on 01/12/2013 5:15:14 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: FredZarguna

Protocols do change with time. In the old KJV Bible, a sentence will often end in a semicolon and the next begins with a capital letter, which is something that I do not recall seeing now.

Also, if you are one of those grammar experts, it is most correct (at least in America) to place a reference within the comma or period (Jn. 3:16) or after it? I usually do the latter.

Thanks.


45 posted on 01/12/2013 5:16:05 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Michael Barnes
Larry Ellison appreciates you using Solaris. ;)

I use it with joy, Bill Joy that is. :-)

Actually I'll admit that I stray a bit from the pure Solaris approach since I do taint my system with the tools and utilities from OpenCSW. One of my colleagues is appalled that I use bash as my working shell instead of using the classic /bin/sh as mandated from the beginning of time (or at least the epoch) by Stephen Bourne.

46 posted on 01/12/2013 5:17:04 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Semi-computer geek, don’t think I’m going to bookmark this one :)


47 posted on 01/12/2013 5:20:29 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: daniel1212
Anerican English is about as fixed as a frog in a blender.

Our former president Andy Jackson is reputed to have said "It's a damn small mind that can only think of one way to spell a word".

/johnny

48 posted on 01/12/2013 5:20:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Revolting cat!
So, the consensus appears to be that when you yell at your kids: “TURN IT OFF!”, you are abusing Queens English, because the correct yell is: “TURN OFF IT!” ?

As I mentioned a few weeks back, you are one of the must-read posters here on FR. And I tend to ramble whereas you express things so aptly with an economy of words. And, thanks much for the ping to the other thread concerning grammar.

49 posted on 01/12/2013 5:22:03 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Grammar teachers never revolutionize the world.
Old sticks in the mud.


50 posted on 01/12/2013 5:23:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: re_nortex

I thank you again.


51 posted on 01/12/2013 5:23:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: re_nortex

It is a good thing I did not write the code.
The message might very well have been, “WTF are you doing you dumb ****! Don’t turn off the ****ing computer during a ****ing code update!!


52 posted on 01/12/2013 5:26:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, there are the prescribers and the describers. Describers wave the white flag from the start, prescribers defend the fort.

We lost on “pro-active”, I admit, but “its” != “it’s”, sorry!


53 posted on 01/12/2013 5:27:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: mylife
“WTF are you doing you dumb ****! Don’t turn off the ****ing computer during a ****ing code update!!

Mom? Is that you? I thought you were dead.

/johnny

54 posted on 01/12/2013 5:31:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Got an RS-232 breakout box?

I do.

55 posted on 01/12/2013 5:34:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper
☺ LOL

I know some coders that got in trouble for having colorful language in the debug code.

"Syscon **** the bed again"

We can't sell that in the final product!

56 posted on 01/12/2013 5:38:42 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cruising Speed
Because “turn” and “off” have to be together. “Turn your computer off” is incorrect. “Turn off your computer” is correct. Learn English.

Exactly so. Another pet peeve of mine:

To boldly go
When it should be:
To go boldly

57 posted on 01/12/2013 5:40:47 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: mylife
I still have one, too. I don't know the last computer I owned with a native RS-232 port on it. I've still got some gear for ham radio like the PK-232MBX that require one, so I finally found an RS-232 to USB converter that actually does work like a tty port.

/johnny

58 posted on 01/12/2013 5:41:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I work on some fancy stuff that the engineers forgot to put serial ports on so I can look at basic processes.
Oh, there are workarounds but wouldn’t it be nice to be able to monitor the boot process on all the processors without the overall OS coming up?


59 posted on 01/12/2013 5:47:10 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: re_nortex
    So Make It!
 

60 posted on 01/12/2013 5:49:27 PM PST by mikrofon (N-gauge)
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