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Michael Savage: Don't trust feds on flu shot
World Net Daily ^ | 1-14-13 | Michael Savage

Posted on 01/14/2013 7:09:47 PM PST by dynachrome

Asking listeners to put aside his political orientation for a moment, talk-radio host Michael Savage questioned the federal government’s recommendation that citizens get a flu shot.

“Did Harry Reid take a flu shot? Did Barack Obama take a flu shot? Did Barack Obama’s lovely family take a flu shot? Did Joe Biden take a flu shot?” Savage asked.

“Which of the mandarins took the flu shot?”

He explained that he was talking specifically about vaccines and was not advocating the avoidance of all pharmaceuticals.

Known for his many books on herbal medicines, Savage acknowledged he has benefited from “an awful lot of life-saving regular medicines.”

“The Flu vaccine?” he asked. “No, I wouldn’t take it.”

Savage noted “not everything your government tells you is true.”

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To: DManA

Liberals do hate common sense, and I always am ready to duck when a liberal opens their mouth.


51 posted on 01/14/2013 9:10:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Again I don’t quite understand you. Did you mean vaccines CAUSE disease?


52 posted on 01/14/2013 9:11:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Rusty0604

D3 is the only form that your body can use effectively.

All other forms are just bowel fillers.


53 posted on 01/14/2013 9:12:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

YES!

Vaccines are well proven to cause disease.


54 posted on 01/14/2013 9:13:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Common Sense means stop thinking and apply the conventions of your particular group.


55 posted on 01/14/2013 9:14:29 PM PST by DManA
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To: happyhomemaker

“We don’t do vaccines”

Polio?


56 posted on 01/14/2013 9:14:43 PM PST by Pelham (Betrayal, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are an irresponsible nut case.


57 posted on 01/14/2013 9:15:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

No, common sense is to observe the evidence, and act accordingly.


58 posted on 01/14/2013 9:16:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

Very intellectual response.


59 posted on 01/14/2013 9:17:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sioux-san

“this is bald-faced tyranny. I am forced to have this shot or lose my job”

The first instance that I know of this sort of thing is when General Washington forced his men to take a smallpox vaccination during the Revolutionary War. He had seen what smallpox could do to an army.


60 posted on 01/14/2013 9:18:01 PM PST by Pelham (Betrayal, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: Pelham

No. They think Polio was a myth. They are so stupid it’s not even worth engaging with them.


61 posted on 01/14/2013 9:18:26 PM PST by DManA
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To: editor-surveyor

Let me try this. Shut up idiot.


62 posted on 01/14/2013 9:19:58 PM PST by DManA
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To: Pelham

The polio epidemic of the 1950s was directly caused by Cutter Labratory’s Salk vaccine.

The vector perfectly tracked the administration of the vaccine, temporally, and geographically.


63 posted on 01/14/2013 9:20:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA
Wow! truly eloquent!

You must have captained the debating team.

64 posted on 01/14/2013 9:22:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

This from a guy who thinks polio was a myth.


65 posted on 01/14/2013 9:24:27 PM PST by DManA
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To: Pelham; Sioux-san

>> “The first instance that I know of this sort of thing is when General Washington forced his men to take a smallpox vaccination during the Revolutionary War. He had seen what smallpox could do to an army.” <<

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Is this your idea of humor?


66 posted on 01/14/2013 9:25:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

You think polio is a myth?

No, it is a demonic toy of the pharma jerks.


67 posted on 01/14/2013 9:26:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

Good night Einstein.


68 posted on 01/14/2013 9:28:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Very cogent response. Obviously you are a very deep thinker. Did common sense teach you this?

No, it is a demonic toy of the pharma jerks.

69 posted on 01/14/2013 9:30:48 PM PST by DManA
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To: dynachrome; All

I would not take it

When I hear so-called “experts” claim that the shot does not make you sick....I say BS....you get sick from it. And, you can make others sick from your shot, too

The vaccine is dead flu virus....whether the virus is alive or dead, the body will produce antibodies to fight the infection...thus it can make you sick...and make others around you sick...since you will be spreading the dead virus around.

Also, the flu shot is only good for a few of the various strains of flu....you can still get the flu from another variation of the flu.


70 posted on 01/14/2013 9:45:58 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: dynachrome

According to medical folks around here - the tri-vaccicne (three different flu strains) missed the target for the most common strain.


71 posted on 01/14/2013 9:52:53 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Two years ago I got the flu shot. The next day I had intense pain in the same shoulder where the shot was admiintered. Over the next week the pain mostly went away, but the muscles in the shoulder and that arm, began to atrophy. A trip to the MDs revealed that I had Brachial Plexis Neuritis. Within two weeks the muscles in that arm were useless and I could not even pick up a gallon of milk with that arm. A search of flu shot and brachial neuritis on the internet, found thousands of people who had the same reaction that I did. Three months of physical therapy got my arm and shoulders muscles to near where they were before the shot, and eventually the muscles came all the way back.
I no longer get flu shots.
Search flu shot and brachial neuritis these days, and amongst the first dozen results are Law firms that will sue the flu manufacturer if you get brachial neuritis from the shot. Some claim success in such lawsuits.
Most people pretty much fully recover from the disease. Others have to live with weakness in the arm for many years or forever.
72 posted on 01/14/2013 10:10:00 PM PST by BansheeBill
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To: 9422WMR

My mother got the flu shot this year and she’s been very sick for over a week now. She told me she has never been so sick for so long in her life. I didn’t get the flu shot and I came down with the flu two days ago. The symptoms haven’t been too bad and I’m starting to feel better going into the third day. I guess it comes down to the individuals personal preference.


73 posted on 01/14/2013 11:48:37 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t know all the techno crat details, but D3 is the one that is more easily absorbed and utilized.


74 posted on 01/14/2013 11:51:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: upchuck

I was reading a book on which foods are good to help against various chronic conditions like hypertension. I was looking at having to take additional meds.

So I started eating foods that are known to help reduce the chances of hypertension, stroke, and heart disease. Was able to get BP back to better numbers than for 20 years.

The book also noted the results of vit d3 and colds, flu various other diseases, so I started the supplements. I believe a lot of our health problems are related to poor nutrition.

I have reduced the amount of processed foods in my diet too. Whatever I eat, I try to make sure it has some redeeming value. Like wine and chocolate - a small treat, that is pure indulgence but still is supposed to have a benefit. LOL.


75 posted on 01/15/2013 12:00:58 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Longbow1969

I am glad you have never had a problem, but I would advise against getting a flu shot. The vaccines are generally given intra-muscularly and do not promote the proper type of immune response. Plus, they frequently do not immunize against the strain du jour.


76 posted on 01/15/2013 1:46:16 AM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Patriot Babe

Hubby and i got the shots in October. We got SOOO ill before Christmas, and it lingers still to a lesser extent. I believer there are different strains and whether or not you get the correct shot is just a crap shoot.

In pior years, we took the shots and escaped the flu.


77 posted on 01/15/2013 2:39:54 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Patriot Babe

Hubby and i got the shots in October. We got SOOO ill before Christmas, and it lingers still to a lesser extent. I believer there are different strains, and whether or not you get the correct shot is just a crap shoot.

In pior years, we took the shots and escaped the flu.


78 posted on 01/15/2013 2:40:20 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: DManA

I don’t think that a flu shot’s gonna hurt you but I heard the strain that’s killing people wasn’t one that is covered by this year’s vaccine.....I heard the same thing from a Dr. on a local radio program who ended his interview with”But you should still get your vaccine”. WTF? If it’s not effective, why? As far as it’s not going to hurt you, did you know MORE people died from the Swine Flu vaccine than from the Swine Flu about six years ago?


79 posted on 01/15/2013 3:01:27 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: upchuck

By the way, you have a GREAT tag line! Best I’ve seen.....


80 posted on 01/15/2013 3:52:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thanks.


81 posted on 01/15/2013 4:03:04 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: texgal

Would you kindly elaborate on “The Onion Thing”?

Thanks


82 posted on 01/15/2013 4:06:58 AM PST by phil_t
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To: dynachrome

I decided to gamble. Everytime I get the flu shot, I feel sick for a few days. So get the shot and KNOW I will be sick, or not and take a chance I will get it.

Hope I made the right decision...


83 posted on 01/15/2013 4:09:00 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: happyhomemaker

Are you talking about vaccines in general, or just flu vaccine? Because I could swear I don’t see many kids with polio these days.


84 posted on 01/15/2013 4:13:11 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DManA

I don’t think that a flu shot’s gonna hurt you but I heard the strain that’s killing people wasn’t one that is covered by this year’s vaccine.

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As it seems to be every year that the flu is rampant. That’s my issue with THIS vaccine. It’s a GUESS as to what you are being immunized against.


85 posted on 01/15/2013 4:14:42 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Or it could be that they waited until their natural fertility time period was up. Women want to wait until they are almost in menopause to try to have babies, what a shock that it is harder to pregnant!


86 posted on 01/15/2013 4:19:43 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, because small pox and polio are running rampant!


87 posted on 01/15/2013 4:21:46 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DManA

Just talked to a guy the other day (in his late 70’s) who suffered his whole life to polio issues from his childhood. People act like it’s fake, pretend... are you kidding me?

I don’t do flu vaccines because it’s a gamble to WHICH flu is coming up. But polio? Small pox? Measles, etc... come on, anyone can see it’s reduced the infection rate!


88 posted on 01/15/2013 4:25:49 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: dynachrome

Never had one, never will. Former boss got one for the first time in 2012 because he wife pushed him to have one, he got violently sick and now he’s got shingles. He has vowed to never get another one.


89 posted on 01/15/2013 4:58:42 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: dynachrome
Savage is a knuckle head. He enhances his chances of catching the flu and passing it on to sick kids or immune deficient adults. He might as well run around shooting a gun!
90 posted on 01/15/2013 4:59:53 AM PST by Average Al
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To: 9422WMR

What are the statistics on the numbers of those getting the flu compared with those who have had the flu shot? - This current “epidemic”; is it made up of mostly those not having the flu shot?


91 posted on 01/15/2013 5:39:24 AM PST by Twinkie (The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein. Ps. 24:1)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, it’s history and you should try learning some. It might broaden your ability to put current controversies in perspective.


92 posted on 01/15/2013 7:26:34 AM PST by Pelham (Betrayal, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“The polio epidemic of the 1950s was directly caused by Cutter Labratory’s Salk vaccine.”

Evidently you are too young to have known people who contracted polio before there was a vaccine. That could be cured by studying the history of the disease. But then I see that you are a conspiracy crank, and that confers its own immunity to facts.


93 posted on 01/15/2013 7:29:47 AM PST by Pelham (Betrayal, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: editor-surveyor

??? Not sure why you are asking me that. I watched the John Adams mini-series on HBO, and I will never forget the scene of the doctor bringing an infected young man house to house to administer live small pox ooze into Abigail Adams’ children. One of them got a severe case, but survived. Smallpox was a horrible killer. If you are asking me did George Washington do the right thing, yes. Your point?


94 posted on 01/15/2013 8:16:09 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Pelham

Then and now, if you are in the military, they can make you take just about anything they want you to - risk v. benefit. High risk for death for the majority of people, that’s one thing. Very low risk for death for the majority, that’s another story. Death from flu is usually due to complications that lead to pneumonia. If you have a high-risk patient, everyone should put a mask on regardless of whether they had a flu shot. A simple cold can take such patients down.


95 posted on 01/15/2013 8:25:23 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

>> “ I watched the John Adams mini-series on HBO” <<

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A realtime docu-drama I’m sure!


96 posted on 01/15/2013 8:56:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

your cryptic responses are too obtuse for my obviously inferior brain


97 posted on 01/15/2013 9:14:33 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: savagesusie
Bravo! (:

Let's not forget the LIVE cancer viruses they are using in some of these vaccines also.

I regret putting these toxins in my children's bodies when they were mere infants. It was 15 and 11 years ago and hopefully before they've really amped up their eugenics programs.

Disclaimer: I think vaccines are wonderful things, in the hands of the right people.

98 posted on 01/15/2013 9:19:14 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Twinkie

It’s a pandemic
Of epic proportions.
It’s a pandemic
of epic proportions.
It’s a pandemic
of epic proportions.
It’s coming your way!
Bird flu, swine flu, glue flu (ok I made that one up)
Every year the flu is gonna get ya!
What a bunch of whining babies. The media sings the song and the sheeple follow. Buy this, buy that. Don’t do that or do, the swine flu is coming for you!


99 posted on 01/15/2013 12:11:13 PM PST by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I did a study on Mercury poisoning—what is interesting is the fact that the proportion of male v. female-—is exactly the same as in the “Autism” epidemic. Hormones in boys makes damage more aggressive in boy’s brains, even in infancy.

BTW, I have known “autistic” kids——and “shy” kids. It is a lie to think we have “better” ways of diagnosis. Teachers from the 70’s who lasted into the 90’s -—would NEVER have confused “shy” for “autism”. It is a government “Lie” which states there is “better” diagnosis. No. Our children are unhealthy-—yes, part from “birth control pills” and the poison in our water. All this—with the toxins GMO foods like soy-—— add to this inability of the body to eliminate all the toxins. Overload.....is what we have.

Autistic kids have damaged brains— by toxins. Shyness is normal—caused by learned behavior-—they did studies with monkeys. Shy mothers raised shy monkeys, it is learned behavior—even when healthy. Autism is never normal—it is neurological damage by toxins.


100 posted on 01/15/2013 1:25:19 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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