Posted on 01/18/2013 4:36:29 AM PST by ducttape45
Uh, you might want to check your math.....(try more like, ONE HUNDRED million).
1) Why do you consider gun violence special? Are you any less dead if you are stabbed to death, or beaten to death?
2) The problem of violence come from allowing violent people loose on the street. According to a 2006 Dept of Justice paper:
Too many violent criminals are on the street due to plea bargains. We need to focus on keeping violent criminals in jail.* Thirty-six percent of violent felons had an active criminal justice status at the time of their arrest. This included 18% on probation, 12% on release pending disposition of a prior case, and 7% on parole. * Seventy percent of violent felons had a prior arrest record, and 57% had at least one prior arrest for a felony. Sixty-seven percent of murderers and 73% of those convicted of robbery or assault had an arrest record. * A majority (56%) of violent felons had a prior conviction record. Thirty-eight percent had a prior felony conviction and 15% had a previous conviction for a violent felony.
It’s a category for original content, editorial or thoughtful, analytic type posts such as yours. On your main FR page, look at the topics up top and you’ll see FreeperED - click on it to see the kinds of posts there. I think this is more appropriate for what you wrote than General/Chat for instance.
Your post is “gone like the wind” already to relatives/friends in FL, TX, VA .... thanks so much for taking the time to put ‘fingers to keyboard’!
Reduce violent crime by reducing the victim mentality and increasing the number of father’s present in children’s lives.
Focusing on gun crime is pointless, as it is violent crime that matters. I a woman that is beaten, raped, and strangled with her stockings better off because she wasn’t shot? Tell her that violent crime in “gun free” countries makes the U.S. look like an Amish picnic.
Whether we’ve fallen away from God or not, gun violence, indeed crime in general, has generally been declining for 20 years. All the predictions that violent video games, violent movies, violent music, etc, was going to cause a surge in violence turned out to be bunk.
You’re answer is way too wordy. The long term answer is clean up the ghettos by reducing dependency - but that is a big fight about the social welfare state. The short term answer is to be very tough on crime. That means more effective policing the streets and locking people up for a very long time. The NY Times may struggle with this, but sensible American’s don’t - the crime rate goes down as we lock more criminals up.
Outlaw irresponsible and bad people.
In fact, there is no other solution.
The churches recognize that legitimate insanity exists, and for the most part, they agree that it is usually not demonic in character, but a malfunction of the brain or body.
This being said, the old definition of insanity was that a person, because of their mental illness, represents a threat of harm to themselves or others. As such, that they be institutionalized is a good thing for society at large, and a charitable thing for the mentally ill person.
However, because in past states confined people who were more inconvenient than representing a threat to themselves or others, eventually the courts decided that few but the entirely incapable should be confined in mental institutions. As such, the bulk of the criminally insane are confined in prisons, not mental institutions.
For this reason, there is a legitimate national reason to have several large federal reservation-medical facilities set aside specifically for the treatment of the mentally ill who are dangerous.
It would not be easy to be confined to such a reservation-medical facility, instead it would have to be after a chain of independent psychiatric evaluations.
First would be a private psychiatrist, family, or police referral which goes to the existing county psychiatric facility in use today. If, in their opinion, the person is a threat, then they are sent to the state institution for evaluation.
If, after an independent examination, the state mental institution determines that the findings are accurate, then a referral is made to the federal reservation. They perform a final initial independent diagnosis, and then different psychiatrists perform full follow up diagnoses each year thereafter.
Once admitted, unlike many state mental hospitals, which are used to “warehouse” the mentally ill; the federal reservation-medical center will active work to find a suitable treatment for them. If they find a drug, or a new drug is released to market, that seems to be effective, then for the first years’ use of that drug they act as a trustee.
This means that for some months the drug is administered under supervision, and then they are issued the drug for additional months, to determine if they are capable of continuing their medication on their own.
Release from the facility works in the reverse of admission, in that they must be certified at the federal, state and county level first. And any of these can veto their release.
Gun violence is not the problem...Liberal politicians are.
In 2011:
323 death attributed to Guns.
496 deaths attributed to Hammers.
650 deaths attributed to Knives.
12,000 deaths attributed to Drunk Drivers.
195,000 deaths attributed to Malpractice by Physicians.
???? Deaths caused by wars instigated by politicians ???
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Good work. They take the Creator out of the equation, then they say that two plus two is three and you are ignorant if you cannot see that.
Liberals crack me up: when I hear one say, "penalties for gun violence must be harsher", I respond "better start building more prisons".
The typical response? "Our prisons are overflowing now! Too many Americans are in jail now! We can't build more prisons!"
They may not be killed in body but their minds will be just as surely killed by the inculcation of the communist dogma, that is for sure.
One piece of info generally missing from all these “studies” about violence and guns is, most of the criminal gun violence is done by repeat offenders. Seems to me if there were a punishment certain for using a fire arm in the commission of a violent felony, and by certain I mean death, gun violence would go down. Yet we hear nothing about doing this from His Excellency.
Of course this would do little to mitigate the potential for some nut job doing what happened in Conn. However, one must weigh the benefits of proactive mental health testing verses privacy and freedom issues. Matt Towery has an article about this in the paper today with more info about why this is a bad idea.
So the upshot here is the creature in the whitehouse has decided to wreck the second amendment in a two pronged approach....ban most weapons in common usage today AND make it as hard as possible for anyone to acquire any firearms through an elaborate bureaucratic maze. His myopic approach is similar to that of his nuclear arms ideas: get rid of them and then we don’t have to worry about them. I wish he felt the same about illegal aliens.
Have not read your entire piece but I have a minor disagreement with your beginning. In my opinion, it did not start in the 60’s. The 60’s is a too convienent scapegoat. It basically started with the push of socialism - or if you want to call it progress politics - back in the 1800’s. Those with socialistic beliefs started infiltrating government - from grass roots on up to the Fed level - and started chipping away at our Constitution and belief system.
You want to see a Leftist really flip out? Show him some stats on how many violent felons are children of welfare moms. Make the point that we would have far less violence if welfare didn't enable underclass single women to have so many dysfunctional kids.
Stop the "War on Drugs(TM)"; Restore lunatic control to its pre-1970 state as Charles Krauthammer suggests; Outlaw and ban the demoKKKrat party.
The answer to all of our troubles is a 3 part concoction: Attentive father + Gospel of Jesus + Lots of investment of time.
I am so sorry that you got such a disrespectful and nasty response from your daughter. She has the Liberal Talking Points down pat, even quoting George Carlin as a “Moral Authority”. My heart goes out to you.
Please take comfort in the fact that there IS hope, as I was an extremely rebellious teen, a “flower child”, socialist, agnostic, angry, grievance-driven, trial to my loving parents.
They must have prayed for me, because now I am a Conservative, Tea-Party, Evangelical, Christian, FReeper who posts two daily prayer threads on FR.
And...I read your essay and agree with you.
“Take Heart, and Fear not. Let not your heart be troubled, for I have overcome the world”....Jesus.
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“323 death attributed to Guns”
I *think* that is ‘long guns’.
Between Chicago and Detroit they probably have more than
323 gun deaths (although I do no know that for fact).
You,of course are 100% correct and judging by some of the replies so is God.
“Many shall be purified,and made white,and tried;but the wicked shall do wickedly:and none of the wicked shall understand;but the wise shall understand” Daniel CH.12 v.10
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