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To: montanajoe
I know most people in the United States simply can not grasp that simple fact. The ideology describing opposition to “foreign Wars” is Libertarianism and Liberalism. Conservatism puts the survival of the nation first recognizing if we lose the war after being attacked nothing else matters.

I'm pretty sure the Founders would look at our decade long wars overseas as the ill-conceived adventures they are.

There was a time when your reasoning made sense. People rallied year after year behind this fight-em-there-not-here banner. Those days are over. It's time to admit that we've been sold out. Bush seemed to mean well, but he failed. Obama never cared in the first place. 10 years and trillions of dollars and all we have to show for it is a soon to be nuclear Iran, Islamist governments spreading across the region and America withdrawing. Politically speaking, once we pull out of Afghanistan in 2014, within a year no sign will remain that we were ever there.

The average American has zero interest in anything more than kinder, gentler wars with ironclad ROEs. Glorified terrorist-hunting safaris, not wars. Our current model of warfare absolutely cannot stop Islamic militancy or Islamist political ascendancy. We can't change that fact, because the American people don't want real war. All we can do in this political climate is throw money and lives away in the name of 'doing something'.

Even that will soon prove to be politically unpalatable. Republican support for these pretend wars helped destroy the party and hand Obama both terms. So long as the GOP appears eager for more Iraqs and Afghanistans, it will remain out of power.

That's the hard truth. It's time to get clear eyed about it.

182 posted on 01/20/2013 10:33:46 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Steel Wolf; montanajoe

Agreed completely.


183 posted on 01/21/2013 6:43:22 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Steel Wolf
If our enemies will attack perpetually and we refuse to fight back because its “just to hard” then we lose. Actually this has been the strategy of every enemy since Korea they know the longer a war goes on with America the more assured of victory they are.

Americans and American companies are targets of Radical Islam through out the world. They are going to kill us and the nation will perish or we are going to kill them and the nation will survive. I can tell you for a fact that the countries of the world are picking sides and they are not picking the USA...

184 posted on 01/21/2013 7:04:24 AM PST by montanajoe
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