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Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens” ["Litmus Test"]
1800GunTrader.com ^ | January 22, 2013 10:35 pm | Not Listed (CITES Jim Garrow)

Posted on 01/24/2013 1:05:36 AM PST by TXnMA

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2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.

Garrow was nominated three years ago for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize and is the founder of The Pink Pagoda Girls, an organization dedicated to rescuing baby girls from “gendercide” in China. Garrow has been personally involved in “helping rescue more than 36,000 Chinese baby girls from death.” He is a public figure, not an anonymous voice on the Internet, which makes his claim all the more disturbing.

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.

It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

Concerns over US troops being given orders to fire on American citizens in the event of mass gun confiscation first arose in 1995 when hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey as part of an academic project by Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham which asked the Marines if they would, “Fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government.”

The survey was subsequently leaked because many of the Marines who took it were shocked by the tone of the question.

The US Military has clearly outlined innumerable civil emergency scenarios under which troops would be authorized to fire on U.S. citizens.

In July 2012, the process by which this could take place was made clear in a leaked US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” (PDF) dating from 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations.

The 2006 document outlines how military assets will be used to “help local and state authorities to restore and maintain law and order” in the event of mass riots, civil unrest or a declaration of martial law.

On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.”

Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement, Garrow’s claim is sure to stoke controversy given that Americans are seeing their gun rights eviscerated while the federal government itself stockpiles billions of bullets.

Last week, Gloversville Mayor Dayton King warned that any federal gun confiscation program could lead to a “Waco-style standoff” in rural areas of America.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; cicobama; guncontrol; jimgarrow; litmustest; martiallaw; military; militarylitmustest; obama; secondamendment; treason
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To: mdmathis6

They’ll frag their officers first before they lay down there weapons.


51 posted on 01/24/2013 9:58:53 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: MestaMachine; All
"All Nobel Prize nominees are not exactly trustworthy. "

I had the same concern -- so I checked out his Facebook postings. The guy appears to be as right-wing, pro-Constitution, pro 2nd Amendment as a good FReeper.

In fact he just posted a link to a video that is better than the article I posted. In it, he is interviewed, (for some 20 minutes) and it is 100% ANTI-0bama. And, on many subjects, he "rips Øbozo a new one"!

Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?

Watch the whole video. Garrow talks about much more than guns -- and he (an obvious expert on China) talks at length about Øbozo's ties with China -- and reveals the fact that (behind his back) the Chinese call Øbozo "Monkey Man" and consider him to be a traitor to the United States of America!

If it has not already been posted, I will immediately post this video as a new FR article. It is a "Must-see",

Then, I will direct readers of this thread to the new one...

52 posted on 01/24/2013 9:59:06 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
"Warning shot will not be fired."

Works both ways.

53 posted on 01/24/2013 10:11:39 AM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Admin Moderator; MestaMachine; All
Please re-direct further viewers of this thread to my new one (with the video) at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981446/posts

Thank you!!

I am closing down this thread. Please go to the new one linked above

TXnMA (Original Poster of this thread)

54 posted on 01/24/2013 10:40:09 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: All; Jim Robinson

Belay my previous instructions!

The Admin Moderator pulled that thread with the (non) explanation, "No thanks".

WTH is going on? That post was just a link to a video interview with the source of at least four FR articles on this subject -- so FReepers can judge for themselves if the source is legit.

Jim, is this the FR you want? This video appears to be on the verge of going viral on Facebook and elsewhere. If this is proven to be legit, FR is going to look pretty feeble... All I ask is that FReepers be allowed to view and judge for themselves.

TXnMA (not a newbie...)

55 posted on 01/24/2013 11:17:28 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Just ping to the new info on this thread. We’ll get it.


56 posted on 01/24/2013 11:49:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: TXnMA

I hope someone with the ability to do real investigative reporting is dogging this rumor.


57 posted on 01/24/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: CitizenUSA
"I want more evidence than simply the word of someone who talked to someone who said it’s happening."

Ditto! This is the problem with the internet and it's symptom of how fast rumors can spread. ..."I heard this directly from the neighbor of the cousin of the girl who's brother's ex-girlfriend's great uncle was on the Woodstock Album cover"

58 posted on 01/24/2013 1:41:10 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: TXnMA
I saw your posts yanked! You're welcome to come over to RochesterConservative.com where we have the video posted and are actively discussing this!

Video: Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?

Not sure why the moderators yanked your thread, but we can discuss it freely on the RochesterConservative.com Forum!

59 posted on 01/24/2013 5:27:16 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

Thanks, but... Since we FReepers with a dozen years’ faithful seniority can still appeal to a “higher power” and get our posts un-yanked, I don’t yet see a reason to give up on a twelve-year investment.


60 posted on 01/24/2013 7:28:47 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: CitizenUSA
I can believe the military trains to put down attacks from within the US.

You are naive beyond belief. I trained in the Army in the late 60's on riot control. We trained how to move mobs using disciplined formations with fixed bayonets. There were seven levels of escalations before orders could be given to fire upon mobs with bullets.

Bush the first used IIRC about 20,000 to 25,000 regulars to quell riots in Los Angeles. Douglas MacArthur and George Patton used troops to fire upon the veterans in Washington, DC.

61 posted on 01/24/2013 7:32:10 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: CitizenUSA
I can believe the military trains to put down attacks from within the US.

You are naive beyond belief. I trained in the Army in the late 60's on riot control. We trained how to move mobs using disciplined formations with fixed bayonets. There were seven levels of escalations before orders could be given to fire upon mobs with bullets.

Bush the first used IIRC about 20,000 to 25,000 regulars to quell riots in Los Angeles. Douglas MacArthur and George Patton used troops to fire upon the veterans in Washington, DC.

62 posted on 01/24/2013 7:32:33 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: TXnMA; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; ..
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

63 posted on 01/24/2013 7:42:05 PM PST by narses
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64 posted on 01/24/2013 7:42:49 PM PST by narses
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65 posted on 01/24/2013 7:43:50 PM PST by narses
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Riot control is NOT the same thing as a large scale, i.e. nationwide, plan to disarm otherwise peaceful gun owners and/or round up Christians. There are way too many conspiracy theories floating around. That’s the thing about conspiracy theories. They usually take very small pieces of information and blow them out of proportion. They are also almost always wrong.


66 posted on 01/24/2013 7:52:16 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: ought-six
“By the rude bridge that arched the flood..."

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I have stood on the Patriots' side of that very bridge, imagined the tyrannical government's troops approaching on the other side -- and asked myself if I would have been willing to fire that shot.

I answered, "yes!" -- but, then, I realized that I knew my family was safe and I was risking nothing.

Not so for the Minutemen -- everything they owned and loved was at risk -- but one of them pulled the trigger anyway...

"Lives, Fortunes, Sacred Honor..."

67 posted on 01/24/2013 9:35:08 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: STJPII
Watch the faces in military units when Øbozo speaks to them.

Deadpan...

With their friends and neighbors -- flying Old Glory -- in front of them, when it comes down to trigger time, you can bet the troops know who the fags and other Øbozo sympathizers among them are -- and the first rounds fired will be at them...

68 posted on 01/24/2013 9:53:20 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
It would be a good idea for you to watch the video interview of Jim Garrow at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzT6X3_Bg9o. Watch it all the way through. The guy is, unquestionably, very knowledgeable about China -- and what he says about their attitude toward Øbozo may surprise you.
69 posted on 01/24/2013 10:46:24 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
Clarification: I wasn't asking you to leave Free Republic. Heck, I've been a member since 2001 and don't want to leave either. I got the link to that video before the moderator yanked it and posted it to RochesterConservative.com, where we're having a discussion on it there. You're welcome to join in the discussion if you wish.
70 posted on 01/25/2013 2:46:26 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: TXnMA

“Lives, Fortunes, Sacred Honor...”

That’s what it’s all about.


71 posted on 01/25/2013 4:55:54 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rochester_veteran
Just tried to go there agaon to read what's been added, and got this message:

Safari can’t open the page

“http://rochesterconservatve.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76805&sid=ec24dbd35cc8745b15f3966c43d35d0b”

because Safari can’t find the server “rochesterconservatve.com”.

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AHA! You left out the "i" in "conservative"...

72 posted on 01/25/2013 8:33:53 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: rochester_veteran
Just tried to go there agaon to read what's been added, and got this message:

Safari can’t open the page

“http://rochesterconservatve.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76805&sid=ec24dbd35cc8745b15f3966c43d35d0b”

because Safari can’t find the server “rochesterconservatve.com”.

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AHA! You left out the "i" in "conservative"...

73 posted on 01/25/2013 8:34:07 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
AHA! You left out the "i" in "conservative"...

Hence why I lost in the McQuaid spelling bee! On that day the word was "aisle". For the life of me, I couldn't fathom it!

74 posted on 01/26/2013 1:18:50 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: TXnMA
You left out the "i" in "conservative"...

Also, I was having a "there's no 'i' in 'team' " moment.

75 posted on 01/26/2013 1:23:01 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Training in the early 70’s was much the same.My personal belief, from what I know,yes I believe troops will fire if ordered.Sad but true.Straight leg infantry for six years,hopefully times have changed.If soldiers find out their loved ones have been killed,anger will prevail.


76 posted on 01/27/2013 2:26:29 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: CitizenUSA
you do understand, if he went to the MSM he would be laughed out of the building and labelled a nutcase, then ridiculed relentlessly and i wouldnt put it past the govt to send out a group of highly trained men to “quiet” him with a dirt nap. i would also point out that i can name off the top of my head 5 generals/admirals in the past 6 months that have been “fired” or forced out for one reason or another that hardly adds up. im not going to say this article is true, but i sure as hell wont discount it as this is exactly what i was thinking when all the top brass heads started to roll.
77 posted on 04/08/2013 10:38:16 PM PDT by winja
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