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How to Shut Up the Women In Combat Whackos -Vanity
vanity | 1/25/13 | central_va

Posted on 01/25/2013 9:04:25 AM PST by central_va

If you want to stop these pro women in combat lunes dead in their tracks ask them this hypothetical question:

You are a General of an Infantry division and your Commander lets you choose one of two enemy divisions to fight. The first enemy division that you could choose to oppose in the upcoming battle is all male. Or you could instead choose to fight the second enemy division that was mixed faggot, women and men. So which enemy division would you choose to fight?


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Shut them right up.
1 posted on 01/25/2013 9:04:28 AM PST by central_va
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To: central_va

You may be selling that second division short. I hear them faggots can lick any man in the house.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 9:07:33 AM PST by jrg
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To: central_va

I was surprised Jessica Lynch didn’t end up in some sheik’s harem. They still have slaves over there.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 9:09:20 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: central_va

Ask any male supporter of this insanity if they would send their wife downstairs at night to deal with a prowler.


4 posted on 01/25/2013 9:09:36 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jrg
You may be selling that second division short. I hear them faggots can lick any man in the house.

Good one.

5 posted on 01/25/2013 9:11:40 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The problem is, these fools don’t understand that war isn’t a game. Their answer might be, “I’d pick the womyn and the gays, because they have their rights and they deserve their chance!”


6 posted on 01/25/2013 9:24:51 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: skeeter
Ask any male supporter of this insanity if they would send their wife downstairs at night to deal with a prowler.

Skeeter, you've just cut through all the nonsense with this nugget of wisdom. Well done.

7 posted on 01/25/2013 9:29:14 AM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: skeeter
Ask any male supporter of this insanity if they would send their wife downstairs at night to deal with a prowler.

You'd likely get a "yes". :-) And the wife might agree.

Mrs WBill has a number of female, liberal, feminist friends and co-workers. I had occasion to listen in on a discussion by them of this very topic at a Thanksgiving get together.

The general consensus was "I TOOK a self defense class! I WILL kick the guy's a$$!" Buncha female chest beating.

Unfortunate brainwashing, sez me. I didn't bother with asking them..."Really?", since it would have been a waste of breath.

Any regular-sized guy, bent on destruction, vs an average girl? The girl will get the crap beat out of her, or worse, before she gets to the phone to dial 911. Self Defense classes, while better than nothing (they teach situational awareness, which is good), are otherwise pretty delusional. Figure that the girl is going through a bunch of choreographed hand-to-hand moves with an "attacker" who is likely more worried about not hurting himself. They don't address the "So, this guy gets in your house, picks up your favorite dining room chair, and tries to break your leg with it. What now?". Which, frankly, is a whole lot more realistic. Bad guys don't play fair.

Foolishness. None of Mrs WBill's friends mentioned a gun, either, training in and possession of which I think would be eminently more sensible. :-)

8 posted on 01/25/2013 9:29:20 AM PST by wbill
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To: massgopguy

Jessica Lynch was repeated gang raped. Hence she disappeared from the public eye.

Can’t let reality set in, don’tcha know.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 9:31:29 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: massgopguy

She wasn’t as good looking as the women they kidnap around the world.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 9:32:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: wbill

Fred Reed talked about this.

He discussed female muscle and bone mass. My take: As a 59 year old man that has not been to a gym in 4 years (I really need to get back to it) I could arm wrestle most “bodybuilder” women and, if I so choose, break their arm.

Period.

This whole thing is utter nonsense. It also brings up the whole equality thing on the flip side: Should women be required to register for the draft?

A civilized country puts women and children in combat as a last resort, and for its very survival, not to be “fair”.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 9:36:52 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“The problem is, these fools don’t understand that war isn’t a game.”

If it was a game men and women would not be allowed to play against each other. Basketball, tennis, etc. there are no virtually no sports where men and women compete against each other.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 9:43:08 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: jrg

Those queers would blow them away, and the carpet munchers would pull the rug out from under them.


13 posted on 01/25/2013 9:48:24 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: wbill

Self defense classes for women have one, and only one, goal: provide an opportunity for the woman to escape.

Prevailing in an attempted rape, without being armed with a firearm, and holding the perp at bay until police arrive is not, and was never, the goal of self-defense classes.

Maybe its time to move them to the front line and let them get a taste of real combat. Let them go on the View when its over.

“There I was trying to scale this cliff with my 100 lbs. pack on and those a$$hole$ in my squad just left me there at the bottom. Can you believe that?”


14 posted on 01/25/2013 9:50:23 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Fishing?


15 posted on 01/25/2013 9:52:42 AM PST by USAF80
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To: central_va

What general would have either all-female or all-male units? That would be foolish wouldn’t it?


16 posted on 01/25/2013 9:55:06 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: cuban leaf

Yep, I’ve read his columns on the topic. Fred is a pretty sensible guy, for the most part.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 10:06:04 AM PST by wbill
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To: RinaseaofDs

“Self defense classes for women have one, and only one, goal: provide an opportunity for the woman to escape.”

Unfortunately for the past few decades TV and movies have promoted the myth of the female warrior who is at least as tough and fierce as her male counterparts. Its everywhere, women beating the hell out of men twice their size. Every depiction of a combat team has at least one female who is sexy but deadly. look for it. Its endemic and it normalizes the idea of women in combat. Reality is much much different.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 10:09:20 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

True, and with good reason.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 10:11:45 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: wbill

“Yep, I’ve read his columns on the topic. Fred is a pretty sensible guy, for the most part.”

I used to read Fred years ago but it became obvious that he
has a real hatred of America. It doesnt come out often but its there. He is a very entertaining writer and I like his style. On social issues he really lays the truth out and pulls no punches.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 10:13:33 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: VRWCarea51
Jessica Lynch was repeated gang raped.

Lynch says she wasn't raped, that the author insisted on throwing that in.

21 posted on 01/25/2013 10:15:15 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: central_va

to paraphrase a soviet general commenting on fighting an american and a german division

“i would fight the all male division first. business before pleasure.”


22 posted on 01/25/2013 10:18:49 AM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: stuartcr
What general would have either all-female or all-male units? That would be foolish wouldn’t it?

Why? All-Male units are the ideal, the perfect fighting machine, the normal, what would be the drawback or weakness in having an all female unit?

23 posted on 01/25/2013 10:22:06 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: RinaseaofDs
LOL! "My squad left me." That's probably a flogging offense in today's kinder, gentler military. But only if the person getting left is of the right persuasion.

provide an opportunity for the woman to escape

Yeah - and I agree with that. They'll buy a second or two, or convince someone who's just looking for an easy target to look elsewhere. So, they're not a complete waste. Like I said, Situational Awareness is everything... thugs are looking for people who aren't paying attention. Period.

But as with most lib sacred cows, the law of unintended consequences looks (to me, at least) to have reared its ugly head. Women - for the most part, certainly there are exceptions - can't go toe-to-toe with a male attacker, and should never, ever be encouraged to think otherwise. There's a huge difference between, say, some punk in a parking deck looking for an easy mark, and an ex-boyfriend breaking down the door.

But, I suppose, "Yeah, I'll kick the guy's ass" sounds much better than, "I'll calmly get my .38 and wait in the bedroom, putting the bed between myself and the intruder and using it as a support if possible, while I call 911. Gee, I really, really hope that he'll just go away so I don't need to shoot him."

24 posted on 01/25/2013 10:22:06 AM PST by wbill
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To: central_va

Their PC mentality has such a lock on their brains, that it is going to literally break their minds when they find themselves in real combat and are forced to face the reality that most of the world doesn’t play by or even recognise the rules of political correctness. The enemy will see a female “soldier” in combat as not just “the enemy” but as a female and act accordingly, in keeping with the rules of primitive societies all over the world. I wonder how many times this will have to happen before the delusional leftists admit that they can’t overrule biology or human nature left unchecked, ie uncivilised, non-politically correct, etc.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 10:26:59 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
has a real hatred of America

I think that he hates what America has become. That, and he's written about being nearly blind because he picked up a load of shrapnel in his eyes in Vietnam. I'm guessing that he's a little bitter about that.

But, he's led an interesting life. I like some of his old magazine articles, particularly the ones where he wrote about Soldier of Fortune. He wrote a book about SoF but couldn't sell it. All of the editors thought that it wasn't believable enough....problem was the stories were all true....

Fred, sez me, would be an interesting guy to drink a six-pack with.

26 posted on 01/25/2013 10:27:09 AM PST by wbill
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To: ansel12

Because that would be the unit that the enemy directed all their fire power on?

Of course that’s the normal, there aren’t any with women. Some things would take more than one women to accomplish, where it would only take one male.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 10:30:23 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: mrsmel
I was yakking with another poster about Fred Reed, who has written a bit on the topic. If you're interested...."http://www.fredoneverything.net/MilMed.shtml", and there are a few other articles as well.

I've always been struck by one point that he made. Women in the military have "Battle Buddies", basically a buddy who accompanies them everywhere to prevent sexual harrassment, or somesuch.

Said Fred (approximately), "We simultaneously expect women to take on the enemy in combat, and also think that they can't go the the bathroom by themselves for fear that someone might harrass them."

Truly, the inmates are in charge of the asylum.

28 posted on 01/25/2013 10:41:32 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

Thanks, I will check it out. It looks interesting, I like to read the views of those who pull no punches when it comes to PC because it’s such a rarity n this world even amongst conservatives. As long as they are intelligent and tell the truth.

Re “battle buddies”-what a joke. The same women whose delicate sensitivities can’t take a sexist joke are supposed to be able to face down and overcome an enemy who will not only want to kill them, but will want to “use” them first if he has time before killing them.

I don’t think even leftists are this stupid. I think that this is one more route in undermining our military capability.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 11:43:49 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: stuartcr
Because that would be the unit that the enemy directed all their fire power on?

Holy cow.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 11:53:57 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: ansel12

Yeah, which is why in #23 I said it would be foolish for a general to have all-female units.


31 posted on 01/25/2013 11:57:17 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

Out of respect for Gay soldiers the Army served a new cereal called Queerios. It didn’t work out though because when you added milk the cereal pieces all ate each other.


32 posted on 01/25/2013 12:10:44 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: stuartcr
What general would have either all-female or all-male units? That would be foolish wouldn’t it?

The enemy doesn't just get to pick and choose which units that they can direct "all" their fire power on based on the demographics of a unit, war doesn't work that way, and what general would not want all male military units?

America can lose wars, and can cease to exist as a nation.

Females mean lost battles, which can lead to lost wars. In a major war, to a nation powerful enough to force our complete capitulation, then that means we become theirs.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 12:17:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: csmusaret

nice one


34 posted on 01/25/2013 12:18:38 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: ansel12

Exactly, which is why there wouldn’t be any all-female units.


35 posted on 01/25/2013 12:20:30 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr
What general would have either all-female or all-male units? That would be foolish wouldn’t it?

So explain what your question is.

36 posted on 01/25/2013 12:30:16 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: wbill

There is a sexual assault epidemic in the ranks. They can’t seem to get a handle on it. It’s not all GIs doing the assaults like the midia potrays. Some of it is contractors (ours and host nation) and host nation folks.

Seems like the little muzzies boys like copping a feel every once in a while.


37 posted on 01/25/2013 12:41:41 PM PST by USAF80
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To: mrsmel

Leftists are that stupid, many of them. The exceptions are commonly those from a working class/private sector union background who often have some real acquaintance with actual physical labor. I’m on fairly good terms with a Teamster who is quite leftist on many issues, but he knows how to break a sweat and has only contempt for the academic left types who have never done a lick a physical work in their lives. He’s also fairly conservative on gender issues because he understands that men and women are different.

That said, there are a lot of academic leftist types who have never done physical work, nor even played competitive sports, nor had kids who played competitively. Some of them literally don’t have a clue. They really think if the girls trained up a bit, they would be physically competitive. Impenetrable ignorance.

The liberal soccer moms, I must say, are perfectly sensible about this. Many of them are fiercely competitive (their girls are playing travel soccer, after all), and they know perfectly well that their daughters, who played coed when they were little, haven’t been able to hang in with the guys since they were 12.


38 posted on 01/25/2013 12:43:48 PM PST by sphinx
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To: ansel12

??? Go back and read the thread, then #16


39 posted on 01/25/2013 12:57:36 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: ansel12

I see what happened. I got screwed up answering the same question in 2 different threads and I thought he was talking about either all men or all female.


40 posted on 01/25/2013 1:01:01 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

You are a General of an Infantry division and your Commander lets you choose one of two enemy divisions to fight. The first enemy division that you could choose to oppose in the upcoming battle is all male. Or you could instead choose to fight the second enemy division that was mixed faggot, women and men. So which enemy division would you choose to fight?


41 posted on 01/25/2013 1:12:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: sphinx

I understand. Some leftists are so dismissive of reality that I really wonder how any of them ever manage to reproduce the old-fashioned way.

When the left gets through, they will have a military which can’t efficiently or effectively fight foreign enemies, but will be a perfect force for keeping the citizenry in line, especially if they manage to disarm us of everything more powerful than a slingshot. They understand the “frog in hot water” concept as well as we do (those of us who do), and that’s how they’ll do it-nibble away at the “edges” of the Second Amendment, with the naive complicity of many conservatives, until they’ve gutted it. Then the new politically correct, politicised military will keep us line without much effort.


42 posted on 01/25/2013 1:33:22 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: central_va
Send these two women, just as soon as their of legal age.
Malia Ann Obama /məˈliːə/, born on July 4, 1998, and Natasha Obama (known as Sasha /ˈsɑːʃə/), born on June 10, 2001.
43 posted on 01/25/2013 1:38:36 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: central_va

Have the women demonstrate how to pick up the dead weight of an injured man and carry that person 1 mile. OK. 1/2 mile. OK. 1/4 mile.....

OK. How about the guy’s gear?


44 posted on 01/25/2013 1:40:08 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: cuban leaf
This whole thing is utter nonsense. It also brings up the whole equality thing on the flip side:

For sure. What is so fair and equal about women getting the option for combat. If it's going to be fair and equal take the option away. They will back track on this issue faster than Speedy Gonzales!

45 posted on 01/25/2013 2:03:51 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cuban leaf
As a 59 year old man that has not been to a gym in 4 years (I really need to get back to it) I could arm wrestle most “bodybuilder” women and, if I so choose, break their arm.

You need to get out more. Men are indeed naturally stronger, and have a much higher potential for strength than women. However, if you're 59 and don't work out, you'd be surprised at the number of women who'd make short work of you.

Using the bench press as a standard that almost anyone can understand: Without the aid of a bench shirt there are a lot of women who can bench in the 300's, a few even the 400's. Less than half that of their male counterparts, but still several times more than your average cube rat.

I don't disagree with your underlying principle. However, like most, you don't grasp how easily an in shape woman can surpass an out of shape man. The effects of being out of shape are far worse than your average couch potato will ever admit.

46 posted on 01/25/2013 2:08:46 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: stuartcr
"What general would have either all-female or all-male units? That would be foolish wouldn’t it?"

Syria has all-female units, maybe Obama is taking notes, you never know with that guy. Remember, "civilians are kings."
47 posted on 01/25/2013 2:13:41 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ansel12; stuartcr
You are a General of an Infantry division and your Commander lets you choose one of two enemy divisions to fight. The first enemy division that you could choose to oppose in the upcoming battle is all male. Or you could instead choose to fight the second enemy division that was mixed faggot, women and men. So which enemy division would you choose to fight?

He can't answer the question. He is a hypocrite.

48 posted on 01/25/2013 2:33:42 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Sure I can. You’d choose the faggy girly one. As I said I misread the thread.


49 posted on 01/25/2013 7:34:59 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr
Sure I can. You’d choose the faggy girly one. As I said I misread the thread.

Answer the question, it is simple enough. Quit ducking like a coward. The question is FOR YOU not me. Idiot.

50 posted on 01/26/2013 4:58:06 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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