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Applebee’s fires waitress who posted receipt from pastor complaining about auto-tip
Yahoo! ^ | January 31, 2013 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 01/31/2013 8:54:33 PM PST by Altariel

An Applebee's waitress who posted a receipt with a note from a pastor complaining about the automatic gratuity added to the bill on the Internet was fired on Wednesday after the pastor complained to her manager.

Chelsea Welch, the waitress, wrote in an email to Yahoo News that the pastor (who has since been identified as Alois Bell) told Welch's manager at the St. Louis-area Applebee's that the ensuing firestorm had "ruined" her reputation.

"I give God 10%," Bell wrote on the receipt, scratching out the automatic tip and scribbling in an emphatic "0" where the additional tip would be. "Why do you get 18?" (There were more than eight people in Bell's party, triggering the auto-tip.)

Welch, who snapped a photo of the bill from a fellow server and uploaded to Reddit, defended her right to post the receipt. "I thought the note was insulting, but also comical," she told Consumerist.com. "And I thought other users would find it entertaining.”

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: applebees; missouri; receipt; stlouis; tip; tipping
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1 posted on 01/31/2013 8:54:38 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

2 posted on 01/31/2013 8:55:17 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

auto tip at Applebee’s? I’ll not be doing that place any more.

I’ve had to make my living in the F and B industry at two points in my life, and all auto tips will do is guarantee medicrity will overtake this niche. Being a bar tender, waiter or waitress is a great entrepreneurial training job.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 8:57:09 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Altariel
$34.93 for 8 or more people at Applebees? huh?
4 posted on 01/31/2013 8:58:39 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Altariel

And if 10% is good enough for G-D, it’s good enough for the gov’t!


5 posted on 01/31/2013 9:08:24 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Altariel

Just wait till the COGIC convention comes back to St Louis. They’ll be coming in groups of 20 and leaving no tip after taking up two hours of time


6 posted on 01/31/2013 9:09:30 PM PST by Figment
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To: Altariel
In defense of auto-tipping for groups -- it's been my experience that there are always some people in any group that will opt to be a "free-rider" regarding the tips.

I generally tip well (unless the service is really sub-par). When I'm in a group that includes non tippers, and where there's a combined bill -- I (and other tippers) wind up looking like pikers, because the non-tippers really bring the average tip down.

This is just an example of the well-known phenomenon of "diminished personal responsibility" common to members of all groups. If you think: "No one will notice if I don't tip, because there are so many people in this group", then you're less likely to tip. Well, we tippers notice -- and the wait staff certainly notices.
7 posted on 01/31/2013 9:14:29 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Altariel

Wow, that pastor is an ASS. He was quibbling over $2.79. The grace of God flows through him like a clogged LAD.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 9:15:55 PM PST by Last of the Mohicans
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To: MacMattico
$34.93 for 8 or more people at Applebees? huh?

This was called Black Expo in Indianapolis. Four appetizers shared by 8 with water all around. I would tell my daughter to call in sick. Finally restaurants decided to shut down that week.

9 posted on 01/31/2013 9:18:09 PM PST by 03A3 (The reset is gonna be epic.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
we tip well...by that I mean at least 15% but most often closer to 20%....but I hate auto tip and it insults me....

I work hard for my pay and no one gives me a "tip"....

at Olive Garden, we had a group of 8 or more so they automatically added the tip....then they had the audacity to give us a receipt for our credit card with an additional line for "extra" tip....balonnney....

10 posted on 01/31/2013 9:19:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: Last of the Mohicans
Alois Bell is a she-"pastor":


11 posted on 01/31/2013 9:19:59 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (She's an impastor.)
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To: MacMattico

My thoughts exactly, what? What? were they splitting water and soup crackers?


12 posted on 01/31/2013 9:22:54 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Altariel
And so the 'joke' was on the customer?

Sorry; no matter how painful; it is not the waitresses job to take onGiven her response; it does make me wonder; if her attitude 'betrayed' her; when serving this 'party'; and so perhaps; a full tip; less than earned.

Whatever the case - and do not like 'cheap tippers' - but it is her job to 'serve'. Not judge. . .then embarrass and make a bad joke of; a customer. It is her 'employer' she is repping; not herself.

Bottom line; she deserved to be fired. These kids growing up with 'realty tv' mind. . .and 'exposure' the name of the game.

13 posted on 01/31/2013 9:36:21 PM PST by cricket (Too many Libs-at-large. They just need a home; somewhere else. . .far away.)
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To: Altariel

How did the waitress harm the reputation of the “pastor” by exposing the truth? The “pastor” is admitting to having had an undeserved reputation.


14 posted on 01/31/2013 9:38:51 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: MacMattico

Separate checks?

The fact is the worst day for tips is Sunday, and it’s bad witness for church goers.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 9:39:40 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: cherry
Cherry...(great name BTW)

U have no business eating out!...U cant afford it...

who
are u saving that tip for????...Enquiring minds want to know????

16 posted on 01/31/2013 9:43:07 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Altariel
Whoa. Check out this You Tube posted today.

'Truth in the World Deliverance Ministries of St Louis , Pastor Alois Bell'

17 posted on 01/31/2013 9:47:53 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I lasted 47 seconds. Spastic!


18 posted on 01/31/2013 9:49:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 03A3

Yep. There was a big stink years ago when during the Black Expo (Or the Circle City Classic, I forget)in Indy that some of the shops at Circle Center mall would be closed during that time. They were called racist. But they simply couldn’t sustain the shoplifting losses.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 9:49:47 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Altariel

Sheer lack of class on both of their parts.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 9:50:17 PM PST by MWS
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To: Ken H

Still trying to figure out which part of all that is actually about Jesus and what He did for all mankind...


21 posted on 01/31/2013 9:54:29 PM PST by MWS
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To: Altariel

Auto-tip is not a tip by definition

and I never go to places that expect tips


22 posted on 01/31/2013 10:01:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: All

Here’s another thread about this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2983963/posts

The Yahoo article is not as complete as that one. In it, it states that the auto-tip was based on a party of 20, and a party of 8 or more, the gratuity of 18% is automatically added in by the restaurant.

Also, check out the Smoking Gun:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234

The “pastor” has a very small following thus far, only 15 in her church.


23 posted on 01/31/2013 10:03:07 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: MacMattico
$34.93 for 8 or more people at Applebees? huh?

The total for the party was 200+. They demanded it be split into separate checks (to be then paid by the one credit card) thinking they would thus get around the autotip,

Ms Bell could have(and probably did) eaten $35 by herself.

24 posted on 01/31/2013 10:04:21 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: MacMattico

Id like to see the whole receipt ...

she might have been counting babies and little children in that “8” also...

also they may have been using coupons...

what was the $34.93 actually for ???


25 posted on 01/31/2013 10:21:16 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: MacMattico; Oztrich Boy

Never mind

OB has said “The total for the party was 200+.”

They could have sat at 2 separate tables...


26 posted on 01/31/2013 10:28:14 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: boop

When I was a bartender during college to pay for my tuition, some of our waiters would call in sick and I would do double-duty for a certain well-known bar-resto.

From my experience alone and I know I’m gonna get burned here, blacks are just damn cheapskates. Not in general, but in most cases, they just pay for the meal itself and they bitch almost about everything. I mean, we were paying the host or maitre’d just NOT to have them seat in our area but pass them to another waiter’s area.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 10:29:57 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Oztrich Boy
My sister used to work at Red Lobster and they'd close at 10:00. I'm not trying to be racist but this would happen week after week: around 9:50 a group of 10-12 black people would come in and she'd work below minimum wage for the next two hours constantly refilling drinks, bringing out extras and be told that, after they had eaten 90% of their Lobsters that they were undercooked and needed new ones. Then as was policy, when requested, auto-tip would be removed. So at midnight my sister would have to clean up a mess from a party of 10-12 of crab leg shells, butter and food everywhere only to find a ripped $5 bill on the table.
28 posted on 01/31/2013 10:31:43 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

That’s outrageous. If everyone did this there would be no waiters or waitresses. They only get like 3:0 0 dollars an hour because tips are to make the differences up to par. Wow! If you do not want to pay for waitress go to McDonald’s or like.


29 posted on 01/31/2013 10:52:33 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Last of the Mohicans
I don't respect automatic tips. I tip well for good service and not as well for bad service. Tipping should be based on merit. If a restaurant tacked on an unreasonable “tip” for bad service, I would object.

The waitress was being a snarky bully and that is failure face behavior in life. She was trying to harm the customer as she left her name visible for all the crazy internet service worker harassers she whipped into an anti-Christian a hate frenzy.

There is a fad right now among resentful waitresses to harm their customers they take their hate out on. This waitress would probably spit in the food of customers she hates serving if she would do this to a customer.

If I had a restaurant, I would be watching out for the sneaky bully server culture to make sure it did not invade my place of business. Who needs this attitude in their sociopathic behavior in their business?

30 posted on 01/31/2013 11:05:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: cricket

When I was sixteen I started working in the Steak House at Knott’s Berry Farm. In my two weeks as a busboy I saw a lot. I spent the next three years as cook and one of the funniest things I ever saw was when after a waitress busted her hump on a party of twelve, the Cheap *ss left her a quarter. She chased him down outside and very loudly said “ Oh sir I think you forgot your Quarter!” Sometimes you just gotta call a cheap *ss out. Now you seem to think this waitress should have just shut up and took it, you seem to think a $34 and change tab is small potatoes, but did you bother to consider that these A holes probably kept that girl jumping so she could not wait on others? So not only did they cut her overall earnings they found a nasty and catty way to stiff her completely for the tip! I think this PAstor got exactly what she asked for.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 11:07:11 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Altariel

“Auto-tip” has been a restaurant policy for decades. There is usually a citation on the menu. It wouldn’t be there if parties of 8 or more (typically) didn’t tend to flake out on the tip.

That said, it is wrong not to tell the customer you’ve added a tip, thereby getting “double sugar”. It’s been a long time since I waited tables, but the last few large parties I’ve been a part of were NOT told a gratuity had been added.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 11:24:02 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: max americana
I used to date a very liberal woman who waited tables at Bennigan's.

One time she told me: "I don't know why, but black customers always leave $2 tips, no matter what the bill is."

I don't think it's race, just culture in the US.

And yes, it's true about black customers complaining a lot, so they can get "free" meals. After they've eaten everything on the plate.

This scenario came up several times: A family would come into Sizzler, order one steak, and one salad bar on the side. Of course, then the whole family would help themselves to the salad bar with the one plate. When the manager confronted them they would always say the same thing: "It's because I'm black, isn't it?"

The manager would say: "Nope, we have plenty of white people that do that too!"

33 posted on 01/31/2013 11:44:16 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Altariel

It’s pretty well-known in the bar/restaurant industry that blacks are bad tippers and often won’t tip at all if the server is white.

Servers mutter curses under their breath when they see a black family seated in their section knowing they are going to get little or nothing for their effort. This, in turn, causes servers who know what’s coming to provide poorer service which the blacks then perceive as racism when, in reality, their reputation is what brought out the bad service.

So it becomes a vicious circle - blacks tip poorly so they get treated poorly so they claim racism which only leads to more bad tips and more poor service. One place I frequented tried to remedy this by having black waitresses serve the black tables but the black waitresses got fed up with the crummy tips as well and quit.

So what does an establishment do? They can’t have a “no blacks” policy because that would bring out the Jesse Jacksons and they can’t lecture the blacks on the proper way to tip or get the r-word thrown back at them. It’s a no-win situation just as stores in bad neighborhoods often find out as well.


34 posted on 02/01/2013 12:08:50 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof

auto-tip is not a tip

They should just incorporate it into the price and raise the pay of the wait staff. This tipping vs not tipping is stupid.

Pay your own dang waiter or don’t open a restaurant


35 posted on 02/01/2013 12:23:11 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Impala64ssa
And if 10% is good enough for G-D, it’s good enough for the gov’t!

Hmmmmmm....will that be your 'final answer' in your upcoming IRS audit???? ;)

36 posted on 02/01/2013 12:41:01 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Altariel
Almost 40 years ago, I was briefly a waitress at a Bob's Big Boy Restaurant in Los Angeles. I wasn't very good at it, and didn't last very long. Fortunately I went on to other things which paid better.

In my experience, black people are often complainera and lousy tippers. One night, in the big dining room, we had a large party where they all had dinner plates and desserts. The cheapskates left 75 cents for two of us waitresses. For over 20 years I have done medical transcription for a living. At least I don't have to deal with lousy tippers! But some of the dictators are real slobs and make chewing, smacking, slurping, and shlomping noises while dictating. I curse them while working on their reports.

37 posted on 02/01/2013 12:58:58 AM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: Altariel

FYI, the waitress who posted this receipt and was subsequently fired was not the person that waited the table. A male co-worker of hers waited the table and showed her the receipt after the party had left. Also, the pastor, after catching flak from the online posting, apparently called up the Applebee’s demanding everyone involved in the transaction be fired, including the manager.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 1:02:16 AM PST by grateful
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To: Charles Henrickson
Oh! Well then...not really a pastor at all. Ignoramus yes, pastor no.
39 posted on 02/01/2013 1:13:55 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: johngrace
That’s outrageous. If everyone did this there would be no waiters or waitresses. They only get like 3:0 0 dollars an hour because tips are to make the differences up to par. Wow! If you do not want to pay for waitress go to McDonald’s or like.

Why do you think it is the responsibility of the customer to pay the waitress/waiter staff's wages? The responsibility lies with the owner of the establishments and tipping should be at the discretion of the customer. If the wait staff want more money they should petition their bosses for higher wages or refuse to work at any restaurant that pays sub standard wages.

I very rarely tip. I hate tipping, I pay for a meal and expect the wages of the staff to be included in that price. If owners would increase their prices and pay their wait staff a decent wage we could do away with the outright thievery of tipping, just another way to steal your money.

I worked for a living since the age of about 15 and not one customer of the businesses I worked for(mainly lumber industry)ever paid me or any of my co-workers a tip. Tips are simply BS and people who tip and brag about it, and bad mouth non tippers, are idiots and self righteous prigs.

40 posted on 02/01/2013 1:39:07 AM PST by calex59
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To: Altariel
From that receipt, it looks like she left NO tip since her handwritten amount is the same as the food total amount (notice the 18% amount is crossed out and 0 is written in for "additional tip").

The tips have to be split between waitress/bus boy/bartender in these places so 18% is not unreasonable.

41 posted on 02/01/2013 1:51:08 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: Ken H

My goodness! I betcha she voted for Mitt Romney!


42 posted on 02/01/2013 1:56:18 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: OrangeHoof

A year or two ago at Texas Roadhouse we had a group of young blacks sitting near us. They had over a $100 bill. After they left the waiter told us that we had tipped more for our under $40 meal then they did for over $100 meal.


43 posted on 02/01/2013 2:00:45 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: johngrace

Calex(IQ)59’s reply to your post was one of the best examples of “three fingers pointing back” that I’ve ever seen on FR or anywhere else. Thankfully, I only know a couple people just like him; they’re friendless, angry, narcissists, and self important. He thinks he impresses people around him and looks down on others and likely has little self-awareness or awareness others - or of what they think of him. He needs your prayers, I’m certain.


44 posted on 02/01/2013 2:17:37 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Figment

A friend’s brother in Memphis REFUSED to work on COGIC conventions. He said they were the most awful people you could imagine.


45 posted on 02/01/2013 2:59:01 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: max americana
From my experience alone and I know I’m gonna get burned here, blacks are just damn cheapskates. Not in general, but in most cases, they just pay for the meal itself and they bitch almost about everything. I mean, we were paying the host or maitre’d just NOT to have them seat in our area but pass them to another waiter’s area.

I wonder how black wait staff fair with black customers?

46 posted on 02/01/2013 3:02:57 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: calex59

No, people who DON’T tip or are cheap tippers are the idiots. I used to wait tables in college & I tip very well. I feel so sorry for any waiter who has to wait on your cheap table! I think a great judge of character is how someone treats service people. It tells you everything you need to know about that person.


47 posted on 02/01/2013 3:11:58 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Altariel

she was fired for posting a customers receipt showing their full and legible name, making them a public target

as she should have been
she’s an idiot

if she wanted to be “humorous” she could have posted the bill with the name obscured


48 posted on 02/01/2013 3:51:52 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: calex59
when I was 15 the minimum wage was $1.60

I waitressed for $.80 and hour and was expected to make the rest of my pay by tips. I could make at least the minimum wage, or more if I worked harder.

Betting your lumber yard paid you more than half the minimum wage.

The harder, more efficiently, courteously and pleasantly I worked, the more I could earn, and the better you enjoyed good service with your meal

If you really want to see how fully paid untipped waitstaff works, try eating in a restaurant where the waiters are govt employees who get their paycheck no matter when and how they deliver your food. Communist countries used to be infamous for this

better yet, if you do not want to support workers in this profession who are partly paid as if they were independent contractors- teaching them valuable customer service skills - just pack a sammich and eat in a park. OR order pizza ... oops guess you don't tip the pizza driver, either

49 posted on 02/01/2013 4:07:38 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
Oh and by the way, I still remember the day an office group came into my restaurant and pushed all the tables in my station together, ordered only coffee, spent over almost 2 hours meeting there and being served with endless coffee refills, and then left me a $.12 tip.

My pay for that shift was about $2

That is why large groups get an automatic tip added to their bill

50 posted on 02/01/2013 4:15:43 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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