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Penn State wrestlers crown 4 champs, win 3rd straight Big Ten championship
Pennlive.com ^ | 3-10-13 | Jim Carlson

Posted on 03/10/2013 3:47:31 PM PDT by FlJoePa

Another incredible Big Ten wrestling team title race was won by another incredible final-day finish by Penn State.

Boasting four champions and 10 NCAA qualifiers, the Nittany Lions outscored a charging Minnesota team and a sagging Iowa squad to win their third straight Big Ten crown. Penn State tallied 151 points to Minnesota’s 139 and Iowa’s 130.5.

David Taylor at 165 and Ed Ruth at 184 became three-time Big Ten champs, the third and fourth Nittany Lions ever to do so. And Penn State will take all 10 wrestlers to the NCAAs for the first time in 16 years.

Penn State led Iowa by just a half-point heading into the final and led Minnesota by eight points, and each of those teams put four wrestlers in the finals. But Penn State went 4-for-4 while Iowa came up winless (for the first time since 2006) and the Gophers finished by batting .500.

"They showed a lot of resilience just battling back,'' Penn State coach Cael Sanderson said on the Big Ten Network live broadcast.

"These two days just give you a pretty good idea of how tough you are.''

Penn State got team title assistance in the first three weights as Jesse Delgado (Illinois-125), Logan Stieber (Ohio State-133) and Hunter Stieber (Ohio State-141) all beat Iowa wrestlers to prevent the Hawkeyes from climbing in the team race.

At the same time, Penn State’s Nico Megaludis of Franklin Regional High placed third at 125, and former District 3 wrestlers Jordan Conaway (New Oxford, fifth at 133) and Bryan Pearsall (Warwick, fifth at 141) also won to earn three more team points. Conaway beat Daryl Thomas of Illinois for the second time in the tournament and Pearsall scored an overtime takedown to take down Pasquale Greco of Northwestern, 4-2.

Penn State’s Alton twins followed with twin losses, Andrew getting pinned by Purdue’s Ivan Lopouchanski at 149 to place fourth and Dylan losing 6-2 to Minnesota’s Danny Zilverberg.

That win by Gopher Zilverberg put Minnesota into a tie with Penn State until PSU’s Taylor at 165 scored a takedown with 19 seconds left against Conrad Polz of Illinois to earn a bonus-point 9-1 decision.

Taylor was the first of four straight Nittany Lion finalists. Matt Brown followed with a rematch against Mike Evans of Iowa. Evans, the former Cumberland Valley and Blair Academy athlete, nipped Brown 4-3 in a wild finish in the Feb. 1 dual meet.

This time, Evans jumped out to a quick 1-0 lead when Brown hooked one of Evans’ socks with his fingers and then pulled on it and was docked a penalty point.

Brown escaped in the second period and pancaked Evans to his back for a 6-2 lead. He then went on punish Evans with a strong third-period ride and a vitally important 7-3 victory.

Against Kevin Steinhaus of Minnesota, it would be realistic to think that Ruth could be in for his toughest match of the season, perhaps short of his Southern Scuffle final against Steve Bosak of Cornell (and that wasn’t all that tough).

It was indeed. The former Susquehanna Twp. athlete got the initial takedown rather easily but Steinhaus held off all other attempts in the period and the second as well. Steinhaus escaped in the third and Ruth led just 3-2 before converting a single-leg to a double-leg for a 5-2 advantage and ultimately a 5-3 win.

Ruth did not have a riding time advantage in the match, a rather rare occurrence for the redshirt junior.

“I appreciate someone who wants to dominate a match as much as I do,’’ Ruth said on the Big Ten Network about the challenge from Steinhaus. “Those are the matches you come away from so proud of it.

“And adding to our momentum made me feel even better.’’

Quentin Wright capped that momentum with two strong double-leg takedowns against Scott Schiller of Minnesota at 197 for a 5-3 win that clinched the team title for the Nittany Lions.

“It’s a lot of pressure but everybody on the team has to do their job,’’ Wright said on the BTN broadcast about Penn State’s four finalists effectively needing to win. “But that’s all part of being a team.’’

Heavyweight Jimmy Lawson placed eighth but still qualified for the NCAAs.

CHAMPIONSHIP SUMMARY

125: Jesse Delgado, Illinois d Matt McDonough, Iowa 9-4.

133: Logan Stieber, Ohio State d Tony Ramos, Iowa 3-1 OT.

141: Hunter Steiber, Ohio State d Mark Ballweg, Iowa 8-3.

149: Dylan Ness, Minnesota pinned Jake Sueflohn, Nebraska.

157: Jason Welch, Northwestern pinned James Green, Nebraska.

165: David Taylor, Penn State md Conrad Polz, Illinois 9-1.

174: Matt Brown, Penn State d Mike Evans, Iowa 7-3.

184: Ed Ruth, Penn State d Kevin Steinhaus, Minnesota 5-3.

197: Quentin Wright, Penn State d Scott Schiller, Minnesota 5-3.

285: Tony Nelson, Minnesota d Mike McMullan, Northwestern 4-1.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: pa; psu; wrestling
The B1G is just loaded. Looking forward to the ncaa's.

Today, Matt Brown came up huge. For a 5 seed to win at that weight (174) isn't something you see very often. A little disappointed in the lower weights, but it's an incredibly competitive tournament.

Great job to all the teams and congrats to Cael for his B1G three peat. Now go do it again in Des Moines!

1 posted on 03/10/2013 3:47:31 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

(Yeah, we hear Sandusky was pretty good @ wrestling males on a mat, too...’twas good to see Penn State’s basketball team limp to 2-16 today on a last second three-pointer)


2 posted on 03/10/2013 3:54:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: FlJoePa

Way to go Cael and his big men!


3 posted on 03/10/2013 4:00:02 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: Colofornian
Yeah, we hear Sandusky was pretty good @ wrestling males on a mat

I would suggest if you are not an NCAA wrestling fan you refrain from commenting on this thread. Or did you just pop in to be the first anti-Sandusky comment? Congratulations! You win.

Now go away. Or keep on. It doesn't matter. You are free to keep commenting. But be prepared to be ignored. Though, I suspect you are used to it.

4 posted on 03/10/2013 4:12:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Colofornian

Why did you feel it was necessary to comment on this in this fashion? It was uncalled for.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 4:16:28 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: FlJoePa

And wrestling is no longer going to be an olympic sport.

There is a reason I stopped watching the olympics years ago, and that decision personifies it.


6 posted on 03/10/2013 4:17:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: FlJoePa

Just so you know what’s waiting in Des Moines:

Big 12 wrestling: Cowboys win Big 12 Wrestling Championship

Of the 10 championship bouts, No. 2 OSU won eight matches and placed second and third in two others. The Cowboys scored 118.5 team points, easily beating Iowa State (74), Oklahoma (58) and West Virginia (28).

STILLWATER — The format might have changed, but the results remained the same. After running through the competition Friday for the Big 12 dual title, Oklahoma State won the 2013 Big 12 Wrestling Championship at Gallagher-Iba Arena on Saturday.

Of the 10 championship bouts, No. 2 OSU won eight matches and placed second and third in two others. The Cowboys scored 118.5 team points, easily beating Iowa State (74), Oklahoma (58) and West Virginia (28).

The top two wrestlers in each weight bracket — excluding 125, 133 and 165 — received automatic bids to the NCAA Championships in Des Moines, on March 21-23. At 125 and 133, only the champion gets the automatic bid. At 165, the top three finishers get their postseason tickets punched.

The common response among most champions on Saturday was simple: on to nationals. But there was still a great deal of pride that went along with each winner.

Twelve of the Cowboys’ 20 matches came with bonus points attached. It’s a statistic that proves OSU coach John Smith’s team was hungry to earn the title.

“They hear how important it is for us to perform in Gallagher; this is our home, this is our place,” Smith said. “We all feel it’s a privilege to be a part of this tradition.”

The Cowboys had plenty of success narratives unfold.

There was the freshman and the senior: Eddie Kilmara and Jordan Oliver. Kilmara, a 125-pound freshman, captured his first career Big 12 title with a 15-5 major-decision win against ISU’s Ryak Finch.

Oliver, a senior, took home his fourth career Big 12 crown in four years, this time at 149 pounds. The No. 1 wrestler in the nation for his class put on a clinic, pinning ISU’s Max Mayfield with 1:41 left in the first period. He finished the two-day championship with four pins and a technical fall. He was named the Most Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament.

“It means a lot,” Oliver said. “Just to end it here in Gallagher-Iba Arena, right where it started is an awesome feeling.”

And then there are OSU’s Jon Morrison and Alan Gelogaev. Both had decorated careers before Saturday, but one thing had been missing — an individual Big 12 title. Over the past few seasons, injuries delayed that goal. But not on Saturday.

Morrison defeated OU’s Cody Brewer 6-2 at 133 pounds. Gelogaev pinned ISU’s Matt Gibson at 285 pounds in just 58 seconds.

“I had some bad luck with injuries the past couple years,” Morrison said. “The Big 12 title is a big steppingstone, but more than anything, I’m just really grateful that I’m going into nationals healthy this year.”

When Chris Chionuma, a 184-pound senior, got the 5-3 upset win against ISU’s Boaz Beard for a Big 12 title, he tore off his headgear and let out a roar. It was the former NAIA national champion’s first appearance in the Big 12 Tournament finals, an experience he won’t soon forget.

“A huge one for me,” Chionuma said. “My last match here at Gallagher, my mom and brother are here … everything just built up to that.”

Oklahoma notched a title at 141 pounds, with Kendric Maple earning a major decision victory against ISU’s Luke Goettl, 13-3. It was bittersweet for Maple, being the only Sooner champion at the event, but he understands the nature of collegiate wrestling.

“It’s an individual sport,” Maple said. “You’ve got to go out there and do what you can for your team, but you’ve got to worry about yourself most of all; because (an NCAA Championship) is the final goal.”

Now it’s time for the wrestlers to focus on the ultimate goal — especially for Oliver.

After coming up short in last year’s NCAA final, he had distinct parting words.

“I’ve got some unfinished business to take care of,” Oliver said.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 4:23:13 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

IS OSU sending all 10? Didn’t see it in the article. PSU is sending all 10 for the first time in a long time. Should be quite a showdown. IA and MN could also easily win this thing. Good tournament teams. PSU still has to be the favorite though w/ Taylor, Ruth, and Wright. The Taylor/Dake (Cornell) battle - if it takes place - will be epic.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 4:31:38 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Colofornian
(Yeah, we hear Sandusky was pretty good @ wrestling males on a mat, too...’twas good to see Penn State’s basketball team limp to 2-16 today on a last second three-pointer)

From CBS Sports, June 23rd, 2012:

A former wrestling coach in another victim's hometown, Joe Miller, testified that he once walked in on the boy and Sandusky lying face to face in a weight room. Surprised, Sandusky reportedly said he was demonstrating a wrestling move, and Miller left. "I thought it was peculiar at first," Miller said, especially considering a much larger room usually used for wrestling was right next door. "But then I thought, 'Well, it's Jerry Sandusky. He's a saint, and what he's doing with these kids is fantastic.' So I didn't think anything more of it."

9 posted on 03/10/2013 4:33:57 PM PDT by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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To: rlmorel; Bloody Sam Roberts; All
(Because the "glory" of Penn State is all past tense...Its pride is what let to its fall)
10 posted on 03/10/2013 4:34:36 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: FlJoePa

PSU Bump class of 83


11 posted on 03/10/2013 4:38:36 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Colofornian

Penn State is gonna rise again. Pretty much already started.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 4:50:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Third Person; rlmorel; Bloody Sam Roberts; FlJoePa; All
From CBS Sports, June 23rd, 2012: A former wrestling coach in another victim's hometown, Joe Miller, testified that he once walked in on the boy and Sandusky lying face to face in a weight room. Surprised, Sandusky reportedly said he was demonstrating a wrestling move, and Miller left. "I thought it was peculiar at first," Miller said, especially considering a much larger room usually used for wrestling was right next door. "But then I thought, 'Well, it's Jerry Sandusky. He's a saint, and what he's doing with these kids is fantastic.' So I didn't think anything more of it."

Bingo.

"Wrestling" as a Sandusky "cover" for being abusive.

And the above was yet ANOTHER indicator that seems like the ENTIRE realm of Penn State & its environs -- at least among those who had some inkling that either something was "peculiar" or something was criminally abusive...turned their head and walked away.

Ya know we rarely hear of the names of murder victims up to 50 YEARS after they were attacked...but there are a few...And the reason we do sometimes has to do with what the neighbors FAILED to do...vs. what the perpetrator DID do...the case of Brooklyn murder victim Kitty Genovese, for example.

13 posted on 03/10/2013 5:01:55 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: napscoordinator; All
Penn State is gonna rise again. Pretty much already started.

"Rise" is a relative term...

The University of Indiana has supposedly "risen" again in LOTS of ways since Alfred C. Kinsey darkened its doors (with the university still sanctioning his "research")...

But it has NEVER been able to shed its image as THE LEADING pedophile promoting university in the Big Ten:

* How a Kinsey victim lives with molestation trauma: 'Esther White' interview exposes 'evil' scientific research: Part 2
* Youtube: children of table 34 pt 1.wmv

NOW, the Hoosiers have "competition" for that image from Penn State.

Between Indiana and Penn State, these two schools have forever "locked in" the reputation of the Big 10 Conference being THE "pedophile conference."

Indiana has forever exalted "Dr." Kinsey...and Penn State still sanctions those involved in the cover-up...from Paterno to the reality that two of the cover-up perps ... one of them under indictment...are STILL on the payroll of Penn State...and have been going back to the Fall of 2011.

[Penn State has refused to fire its athletic director Tim Curley, who is on paid leave as the last year of his contract won't run out till later this year...And ex-Prez Spanier resigned as prez but was not -- to my knowledge -- ushered out as a tenured prof there]

14 posted on 03/10/2013 5:17:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: All

Contestant: I’ll take nicknames for $400.00 Alex.

Alex: If you call a woman who likes younger men a cougar, what do you call men who like young boys?

Contestant: What are nittany lions!

Correct!


15 posted on 03/10/2013 5:42:05 PM PDT by JohnG45
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To: Colofornian

Why are you being a jerk? Start a separate sandusky thread. Don’t be such a small person.


16 posted on 03/10/2013 6:00:32 PM PDT by merry10
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To: FlJoePa

Reading an OSU fan forum, they say it’s 9 wrestlers to Nationals. I didn’t find which weight is not going.


17 posted on 03/10/2013 6:02:26 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

It’s our 141 pounder that didn’t make it.


18 posted on 03/10/2013 6:12:31 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: merry10
Well...some people might think it "small" minded to openly label others as "jerks."

If you want to go around attacking other posters, please feel free to start your own separate ad hominem thread!

19 posted on 03/10/2013 6:17:43 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: merry10

Don’t bother.

It isn’t new behavior on the part of the poster. You see it in other forums, regardless of the subject.

You are better off ignoring him like everyone else on the thread appears to be doing.


20 posted on 03/10/2013 7:00:06 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: FlJoePa

bookmark. wrestling


21 posted on 03/10/2013 7:04:44 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Oklahoma; T-Bird45

I havn’t followed NCAA wrestling since Dan Gable stopped coaching at Iowa.

Who has won the NCAA’s in the last couple years.


22 posted on 03/10/2013 7:13:16 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Penn State has won the past two ncaa Championships and will be favored to win again in Des Moines. Certainly not a given though.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 7:18:43 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: T-Bird45

Wow - very impressive! It’s going to be a really great NCAA tournament this year. I think there are four legit contenders for the team title. The key for PSU will be to get some points in the first four weight classes. If they can do that they’ll be hard to beat.


24 posted on 03/10/2013 7:20:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: FlJoePa
PSU might only crown one national champion this year. Ed Ruth (184) won't lose a match for the rest of his college career. Taylor (165) has to get past Dake, who has beaten him twice already this year, and Wright will not beat Kilgore. Matt Brown is peaking at the right time, but the 174 weight class is loaded.

This will be the best NCAA tournament in a long time, and there are four teams that could take it -- PSU, Iowa, Okla State and Minnysota. The seedings will be critical, and PSU did themselves a lot of good today. I'm an Okla State fan, and the only weight we won't be bringing is 141 (Feikert). He could get an at-large invitation, but even if he did, he wouldn't make it out of the first round. Go Pokes!

25 posted on 03/10/2013 7:31:09 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Agree with almost everything you said. I think Q can certainly win. Taylor/Dake could be an incredible matchup.

PSU needs fairly deep runs in the lower weights obviously. Nico needs to do what he did today - no less than 3rd, and the Altons need to get it together. They both run out of gas and lose matches late.


26 posted on 03/10/2013 7:43:13 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Colofornian

I just read the reminder, “Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.” Hence, I will not write anything. I will, however, remember your name.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 8:02:19 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ckilmer

Oklahoma State had a four-year championship run from 2003 thru 2006. Since then, it was Minnesota in 2007, Iowa 2008-10, and Penn State in 2011-12. The upcoming championship will be the 2013 NCAA Wrestling Championship.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 8:05:57 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FlJoePa
Ever since their run in with the law, the Altons have lost their mojo, and their gas. In many schools, neither one would have been allowed to return given the severity of what they did. Given the microscope PSU is under, I'm surprised the school is allowing them to compete. Cael must have a lot of pull, although I thought Cael was the kind of guy who wouldn't tolerate that kind of crap from his team.

That said, the Altons were missing from the equation, big time, this tournament. If they perform this badly in Ames, then it will be hard for PSU to win. Conaway could surprise, but I think Pearsall goes down early. Nico could win it all, but after watching Delgado, it's clear he's peaking at the right time. I think the kid from Missouri (Waters) will be the #1 seed at 125.

Dake and Taylor will be the top match of the finals, and I hope we get to see Stieber and Ramos go at it again. The other Stieber, vs. the kid from Oklahoma, could make the 141 final just as exciting. Wish I could go Ames this year, but work is always getting in the way.

29 posted on 03/10/2013 8:11:36 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: ConservativeInPA
(Well, please do)

And the implied opinion behind your comment is that you're more riled about somebody beyond Pennsylvania registering moral concern about what a campus tolerated than the horrific things that happened & WERE IGNORED IN Pennsylvania!

[Kind of reminds me when people get upset at those holding up pictures of aborted babies, as if that was more problematic than the very acts and the very industry that led to the aborted pre-borns to begin with!]

30 posted on 03/10/2013 8:12:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mase

Re the Altons and Lock Haven...they sat out a month for two misdemeanors. They didn’t beat anyone up (which is, historically, what PSU wrestlers - and others) usually get in trouble for.

Just drunk downtown. I love Lock Haven, but I’d probably love it more drunk. Just sayin’.


31 posted on 03/10/2013 8:26:27 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: merry10; All
Start a separate sandusky thread

(Well, thanks for the advice...I took it up...Here's an article from today's State College newspaper where a Penn State trustee says they didn't fire JoePa, they just "retired him three weeks early.")

Wow! PSU CONTINUES to be the "laughing stock" campus admin of the nation!

For the thread, see: Penn State trustees: ‘We’re trying to get where we need to be’ [PSU alumni still on attack]

32 posted on 03/10/2013 8:36:27 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: FlJoePa
I don't think Jon Smith at OSU would have tolerated the actions of the Alton's, but who knows anymore? I guess I miss the old days when you couldn't beat a woman while drunk and not suffer some serious consequences. I really thought Cael's moral compass was more solid.

Ed Ruth would never have been allowed to plead down for assaulting a cop in the old days, and he would have been relegated to some third-rate school, or done some time, instead. We treat student athletes with kid gloves these days, and it is nothing but a disservice to them and to society. Correction, we treat the athletes who can bring national championships with kid gloves.

This is more of a sad commentary on the state of collegiate athletics than it is an indictment of PSU or Cael. Hey, at least the Alton's didn't pull an Andrew Long.

33 posted on 03/10/2013 8:57:40 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Colofornian
And the implied opinion behind your comment is that you're more riled about somebody beyond Pennsylvania registering moral concern about what a campus tolerated than the horrific things that happened & WERE IGNORED IN Pennsylvania!

[Kind of reminds me when people get upset at those holding up pictures of aborted babies, as if that was more problematic than the very acts and the very industry that led to the aborted pre-borns to begin with!]

I really do not care where you are from. Moral concern is ok, and trust me, everyone in PA is glad Sandusky is in prison.

As for the horrific things that happened and ignored in PA, you forget or really do not care about the fact that all students at PSU, all PSU alumni, and all but a couple of administrators at PSU had an idea of what was happening with Sandusky. The administrators that knew are still to stand trial.

Since FR is a political forum, it is very interesting if you look at the political leanings of the administrators that were involved in the cover-up.

At least you didn't bring Joe Paterno into this. He was a hard-core conservative. He is also dead and unable to defend himself. (BTW, he also fired Sandusky, long, long ago, when there was no arrest, no trial, and no conviction of Sandusky.) Paterno became the scape goat for the liberals that ran PSU, ESPN, the MSN and Louis Freeh.

I think all conservatives can easily admit that all but a few colleges and universities in the US are run by liberals, and that as liberals they lack a moral compass. It is also easy to admit that the MSM and ESPN are extremely liberal, and for that matter so is Louis Freeh.

To damn residents of PA and alumni of PSU by comparing them to people who have a problem with people showing abortion pictures is either hyperbolic or ill-placed in a thread about wrestling.

34 posted on 03/11/2013 3:32:05 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I think that if you post a “Penn State” thread on anything, you are going to get Sandusky/sex scandal comments. Seems like a no-brainer to me. If you don’t want to get riled, don’t post Penn State stuff. If you do, I suggest you give your hackles a vacation, because you are sure going to get comments you don’t want.


35 posted on 03/12/2013 6:55:02 AM PDT by alarm rider (Basically, we are toast.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
At least you didn't bring Joe Paterno into this. He was a hard-core conservative. He is also dead and unable to defend himself. (BTW, he also fired Sandusky, long, long ago, when there was no arrest, no trial, and no conviction of Sandusky.) Paterno became the scape goat for the liberals that ran PSU, ESPN, the MSN and Louis Freeh.

Anybody wishing to see how I respond to this kind of comment -- which you may or may not want to address on yet another thread...please see:
See post #82

As for the horrific things that happened and ignored in PA, you forget or really do not care about the fact that all students at PSU, all PSU alumni, and all but a couple of administrators at PSU had an idea of what was happening with Sandusky

Well, if you visit that other linked thread above, you'll see plenty of posts re: how Penn State alumni have reacted in extremely negative ways.

IoW, it wasn't simply a lone individual on the loose; plenty of people HAD to look the other way with what they saw that allowed Sandusky to continue to do what he did. IoW, there's a "cultural" issue afoot there. And it's the people who don't want to address it as anything beyond the actions of a single individual who have become part of the problem that led to the cover-up to begin with.

Hence, there's been this pride-filled spirit of defiance loose in State College.

First, it was the Penn States students that one night when they began rioting in the streets. (And yet you whitewash ALL the actions of ALL the students)

And then it moved on to the CentreDaily Times writing in May 2012 that they were "sad" to see Sandusky's The Second Mile Foundation go...when the reaction of the ENTIRE community should have been, "Good riddance!"

Then, there's been ZERO grassroots uprising to the reality that Penn State continues to pay the salary of one of the cover-uppers -- the athletic director, Tim Curley. (For those who claim they are waiting for the trial to end...no they aren't...Curley's contract will end likely before the trial...and guess what? They won't renew it...furthermore, the Board of Trustees didn't wait for Paterno's contract to be up...he was fired minus any criminal charges)

And then that spirit of defiance by Penn State Alumni has been to turn on the NCAA; to turn on the Board of Trustees; there's absolutely LITTLE sensitivity to the cultural seriousness of what has occurred in State College!

Well, at least the CentreDaily Times recognizes to SOME degree how serious it is... http://www.centredaily.com/

Most newspapers have simple Home page banner navigational topical interests like:

Home News Sports Living Opinion Obituaries Local Deals

The CentreDaily Times? How does it compare to other papers?

Well, after, News and Sports we see prominently:

Sandusky Scandal


...still 16 months later!!!
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36 posted on 03/12/2013 4:07:45 PM PDT by Colofornian
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