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I stood my ground (How one man stood up to the jack booted thugs in NJ.....it's coming)
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Posted on 03/17/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

The fight has officially been brought to my front door

Last night I was out with a buddy of mine. I got a text from my wife that the cops and dyfs are at the house and they wanna check out my guns and needed me to open my safe. I'm instantly on my way. I get in contact with evan Nappen on the way. I explain the situation. I walk in my house and hand the phone to the first cop I see. Then direct all of em outside. Dyfs got a call because of a pic on my son holding a gun. They wanted to look around and check all my guns out, make sure they were all registered. Obviously that didn't go well because I refused. I had Nappen on speaker phone the entire time so they had to deal with both of us. They kept trying to pressure me to open my safe. They had no warrant, no charges, nothing. I didn't budge. I was told I was being "unreasonable" and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn't open my safe. Told me they were gonna get a search warrant. Told em go ahead. Nappen (my lawyer) asked me for the dyfs workers name. she wouldnt give it. i asked for credentials and she wouldnt show em. i tried to take a pic of her and she turned around real fast and walked away. After a while of them threatening to take my kids, get warrants and intimidation they left. Empty handed and seeing nothing.

People it can happen that fast. Most people wouldn't have stood up to them like I did.

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It's coming folks. Get mentally prepared.
1 posted on 03/17/2013 12:57:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Mods, I just noticed the date. I got this and posted it immediately. Delete if you feel necessary.

Dated but still relevant.


2 posted on 03/17/2013 12:58:35 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thugs? In NJ? Not a chance.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 1:01:40 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The see this date?

“Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:47 am “

Looks like a recent happening.


4 posted on 03/17/2013 1:04:12 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red in Blue PA
thank you, for the post.

5 posted on 03/17/2013 1:06:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Red Steel

The = I

Heehee...


6 posted on 03/17/2013 1:07:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red in Blue PA

dyfs ????


7 posted on 03/17/2013 1:07:06 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Holy warantless searches Batman!

Since when is a picture of a “child” holding a rifle cause for suspicion of child abuse?

(Just asking.)

IMHO


8 posted on 03/17/2013 1:08:04 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Red Steel

I was looking at the account setup date then. Thanks for the clarification. It is recent.


9 posted on 03/17/2013 1:08:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ripley

Hope that this guy sues the crap out of the police force.

He did a great job of standing up to them, I must say.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 1:09:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pontiac

Division of Youth and Family Services.
Or ‘Die Fuss’ as it is pronounced.


11 posted on 03/17/2013 1:09:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Always have a lawyer on standby. Do not ever deal with government officials or law enforcement by yourself.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 1:10:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Pontiac
"dyfs ????"

Damn Yankees fo sho...

13 posted on 03/17/2013 1:10:35 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Pontiac

Dept. of (oh! the :) Chil’ren Services?


14 posted on 03/17/2013 1:11:57 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Pontiac

“dyfs?”

Division of Youth and Family Services.

(Sounds like one of the comrades told on his neighbor to make the world safe “for the children”)

IMHO


15 posted on 03/17/2013 1:12:29 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just an irritant to me about the writing: he says he’s talking to “evan Nappen” (apparently on the telephone but not stated as such) but doesn’t get around to identifying Mr. evan Nappen as his lawyer until the sixth line.


16 posted on 03/17/2013 1:12:32 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Red in Blue PA

A while back I had a break in. I warned the cops clearing the house that there were guns inside because we didn’t know if the people were still inside.

As soon as they cleared the home the first thing I wanted to do is check to make sure the firearms were still there. Found the key in my gun safe but everything was there. First thing one of the cops asked is “how many guns do you have?”

Its tough telling cops no. I admire this guy for being strong enough to do so.


17 posted on 03/17/2013 1:12:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks for the heads-up.. Photos at link complete the story!


18 posted on 03/17/2013 1:12:49 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Pontiac

> dyfs ????

The Division of Youth and Family Services (DYFS)[DYE-fuss] is New Jersey’s child protection agency. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Youth_and_Family_Services


19 posted on 03/17/2013 1:13:40 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: OldPossum

I don’t have a lawyer I can call in this kind of situation. Perhaps I should rectify that omission.


20 posted on 03/17/2013 1:14:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I had a break in and a similar experience. Difficult to stand up to multiple cops who are making demands. But one must learn to do so. This is your property and unless they have a warrant, they can take a hike.


21 posted on 03/17/2013 1:15:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Darksheare
Division of Youth and Family Services.
Or ‘Die Fuss’ as it is pronounced.
dufus...well, it fits...
thxs, for the "clarification"..

22 posted on 03/17/2013 1:15:24 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Pontiac

“dyfs ????”

Dept. of Youth and Family Services


23 posted on 03/17/2013 1:16:24 PM PDT by zagger
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To: skinkinthegrass

Yes, it fits.
Had to deal with them in personal life back in the 80’s.
The personnel they have rn the gamut from ‘Actually trying to do their job’ to ‘Full on gestapo wannabes’ with little more to do than make sure your kids get harmed which will then be blamed on you.


24 posted on 03/17/2013 1:17:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Pontiac
The New Jersey Division of Child Protection and Permanency used to be called DYFS.
25 posted on 03/17/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Does anyone know where the pic that started this was displayed? FB? Taken to school to show to friends?
26 posted on 03/17/2013 1:17:33 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Nappen (my lawyer) asked me for the dyfs workers name. she wouldnt give it. i asked for credentials and she wouldnt show em. i tried to take a pic of her and she turned around real fast and walked away.

These "officials" respond to cameras like vampires respond to a crucifix. Best to have several. If you take a pic of one on your cell phone, IMMEDIATELY send it to a friend (or preferably your lawyer) before they have a chance to intimidate you into deleting it.

We really need an app which can be used to take a pic and send it to a pre-set destination in one click.

27 posted on 03/17/2013 1:18:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ripley

You’re going to see a lot more of this, if they can brainwash the children, the 2nd Amendment will me no more. You’re seeing more and more of these PC actions each day, from across the nation. This has got to stop.


28 posted on 03/17/2013 1:21:49 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: Red in Blue PA

It was posted today, what am I missing?


29 posted on 03/17/2013 1:21:56 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: driftdiver
I don’t have a lawyer I can call in this kind of situation. Perhaps I should rectify that omission.

I think I would opt for living in a free state. The only time a cop ever came to my house was over some trivial thing a couple of houses down the street. He came to my door and asked if I knew anything, which I didn't. We then talked about guns for a few minutes and I mentioned I'd recently shot a 10mm pistol. He then told me he'd just bought a Glock 20 and it was in his trunk. He then gets it and shows it to me and we chat a few more minutes before he heads out. That's the difference between the socialist hellhole People's Republic of New Jersey and Alaska.

30 posted on 03/17/2013 1:22:07 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It was posted today, what am I missing?

I mistook the account setup date for the date it was posted. It was from today.....I got it wrong.
31 posted on 03/17/2013 1:23:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The New Jersey Division of Child Protection
and Permanency used to be called DYFS.
Permanency????...sorry, the permissive liberal policy of aborted kiddies don't apply...
well.."the US Constitution doesn't saying anything bout it" (BORK)..just sayin"

32 posted on 03/17/2013 1:25:03 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: AlaskaErik

I live in Florida and someone kicked the door in while we were out. My wife and kids arrived to find stuff in the drive way, front door wide open, and the alarm going off.

I gave the cops first pass on clearing the house but went thru it before letting my family back in.


33 posted on 03/17/2013 1:29:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Reminds me of the only time I ever made a mistake. I said I was wrong, but it turned out I wasn’t:)


34 posted on 03/17/2013 1:31:56 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Red in Blue PA

Been there done that!


35 posted on 03/17/2013 1:32:39 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Polynikes

He has a great case against the Union thugs.

No doubt their other actions have also been illegal.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 1:34:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve.I predict FR will hate GOP Candidate for 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The sign up date of poster at link.

Scary story.

37 posted on 03/17/2013 1:36:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Jyotishi

Not all thugs wear hoodies and droopy pants


38 posted on 03/17/2013 1:39:19 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Jane Long

I couldn’t tolerate living with the laws they have and it’s only going to get worse.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 1:51:51 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: driftdiver
Had that happen to me back in the ‘70’s. Came home and found a panel in my garage door kicked in. Went in the house and saw that the traverse door from the garage kicked in.

Went to my gun storage, hidden panel, and took out my shot gun, cranked a round, a pump, feet pounding upstairs, split level, no damage upstairs. Never had a break in after words. This was in Mass bye the way.

40 posted on 03/17/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: driftdiver
"First thing one of the cops asked is “how many guns do you have?”

"Not enough, officer. Have a great day!"

41 posted on 03/17/2013 1:53:35 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Libloather

Christie will put a stop to that crap.

After all, he is the guv’ner and he will defend and uphold the 2nd Amendment even if he has to shed some pounds.


42 posted on 03/17/2013 2:13:00 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

LOL!


43 posted on 03/17/2013 2:13:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pontiac

Good, i’m not the only clueless one!


44 posted on 03/17/2013 2:20:59 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: OldPossum

Evan Nappen is one of the foremost Second Amendment attorneys in New Jersey. I met him once. He has been at the forefront, not an easy place in New Jersey.


45 posted on 03/17/2013 2:25:19 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Jonty30
Always have a digital audio recorder onhand in your car and by your front door ... and if possible , a digital video recorder , you can get a decent quality one for under $15... with an 8gb tf memory card.


46 posted on 03/17/2013 2:36:48 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Maybe soon Americans will realize that they have lost their freedom and what little we have is hanging on by a thread. Communists are rapidly controlling America and our rights are disappearing.
47 posted on 03/17/2013 2:36:52 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: ripley
"Since when is a picture of a “child” holding a rifle cause for suspicion of child abuse?"

oh...about 5 years now...coinciding with Ø

Personally, I got off F.B. years ago, removed all firearms pics & vids from youtube, and started buying 'hard-to-find-nowdays' items a few years ago,
knowing that another school shooting & madness would ensue.
48 posted on 03/17/2013 2:37:15 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

There’s always some “justification.” “for the children.”

Nazism didn’t die with hitler. It took another name. Statism.


49 posted on 03/17/2013 2:38:39 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Red in Blue PA
Most people wouldn't have stood up to them like I did.

******

Well done, indeed.
...concur with your assessment...

50 posted on 03/17/2013 2:46:13 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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