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What do you want America to look like in 30-50 years?
The Conservative Beacon ^ | Conservative Beacon

Posted on 04/04/2013 7:03:57 PM PDT by Conservative Beacon

I have not posted here in a while, but I wanted to reach out to my fellow freepers for your views on a very important topic: the future of America.

We know our current situation and its continued decline should the course not be altered. I am interested in what America will look like in 30-50 years should we reverse our current course.

So I am curious as to what that America looks like to you. What is your dream, best case scenario 30-50 year vision of America, all facets-overall culture, education, media, government, etc?


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To: Conservative Beacon

Here’s what I would like to see:

A USA that has ended all affirmative action.
A USA that has abolished most of the New Deal and Great Society programs, because at long last they are recognized as failures.
A USA that treats homosexuality as the mental illness it really is.
A USA where everyone understands that our system will not function without Judeo-Christian values as the determining factor in stabilizing society, where we have prayer in our schools, at our football games, and our graduations.
A USA where a man can walk into a store and buy a machine gun if he has the money.
A USA where criminals are publicly hanged within a few days of being found guilty, if their offense warrants death.
A USA where criminals are put on chain gangs for long sentences at hard labor, and who emerge from their imprisonment as mere shadows of their former selves who will harm no one.
A USA where elections are monitored closely, with a fierce response to any cheating from any individual or party.
A USA where we can decide how many immigrants we really want, and where we forcibly eject unwanted invaders.
A USA where a man can work, save money, obey the law, and by doing wise things get ahead, instead of be rewarded for the most egregious failures.

None of those will occur, of course. It is not even the America I grew up in. But that would be a good country, in my opinion.


51 posted on 04/04/2013 8:34:57 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I want to see everybody be riding his pony, holding an Obamasmartfoam in her hand!


52 posted on 04/04/2013 8:36:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Tau Food

So the sooner the conservative voters die off, the quicker the Obama lovers can fix things?

How do you expect people who vote 66% and 77% for Obama to fix America, is that what you think he is doing?


53 posted on 04/04/2013 8:39:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Conservative Beacon

Like North and South Korea. Marxists in the north freedom lovers in the south.


54 posted on 04/04/2013 8:43:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Conservative Beacon
I can tell you that as the old die off, that conservatism is dying off forever, at the same time. I don't know what you can teach the under 30s and the young immigrants flooding in by the millions that will turn us back into a conservative nation.

California for instance is gone forever, the left hopes to take Texas in a generation or two.

55 posted on 04/04/2013 8:44:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
Most Republicans don't vote conservative, or a conservative would be president today.

Republicans, especially older republicans watch their TV, collect their SS, and vote for the guy that makes them feel comfortable and doesn't threaten their SS.

/johnny

56 posted on 04/04/2013 8:44:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What do you mean?


57 posted on 04/04/2013 8:45:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

So voting republican means nothing, but voting 66% and 77% democrat means that the those young Obama voters will return us to conservatism?


58 posted on 04/04/2013 8:47:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
California for instance is gone forever,

I think that's a little bit over overstatement. The old USSR is gone, and Russia is casting bells for churches and commissioning them these days, so... forever?.... hardly. Blink of an eye and things can change.

/johnny

59 posted on 04/04/2013 8:47:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
I mean exactly what I said.

/johnny

60 posted on 04/04/2013 8:48:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
Voting Republican certainly doesn't move the country toward conservatism.

/johnny

61 posted on 04/04/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The Social Security is strong with this crowd.

No one has repealed the Law of Self Interest.

Seniors represent a huge and growing percentage of our voters. I think we have to expect them to vote themselves goodies.

The other side of the coin might be termed the Rate of Decay for this generation of seniors. How long will it take?

"Then said I, 'Lord, how long?' And He answered, 'Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, and the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.'"
(Isaiah 6:11-12)

God will surely harvest this crop, with a vengeance!

62 posted on 04/04/2013 8:52:28 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

California is gone forever, and cannot change in a “blink of an eye”>

California did not become permanently liberal because the voters are going through a cycle, it went blue because the original voters have been replaced by permanent liberal voters who have no cultural or historical interest in our past America and identity, and reason for existence and concepts of freedom and individuality and social conservatism.

There is no cycle coming up, these are new people, a different people, than those WASPs that ran LA and California and made up the electorate.


63 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Your posts aren’t making sense, dedicated democrat voters will not be making up for the lack of conservatism among the republican voters.


64 posted on 04/04/2013 8:55:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Tau Food

So you think the problem with America is the republican voters, and that the democrat voters will fix America?


65 posted on 04/04/2013 8:57:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
What changed Russia into the CCCP? Mexican immigrants? No...

What changed the CCCP back into Russia that has churches and prays and bans queer parades? Old people collecting state checks? No.

All people, everywhere, want freedom and will tend that direction.

/johnny

66 posted on 04/04/2013 8:58:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservative Beacon

I want a place where citizens understand and accept the responsibility required to earn freedom and leave everything better than they found it.


67 posted on 04/04/2013 8:59:26 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: Conservative Beacon

I just pray Jesus returns before this spiraling ride hits the ground, otherwise once America gasps its last breath, this world will be plunged into a dark age that will make the last dark age seem like a golden age.


68 posted on 04/04/2013 9:01:00 PM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: ansel12
There are other solutions to the problem that your limited republican/democrat view.

Those solutions will probably be the ones that work out in the end. Compare and contrast to the fall of the Soviet Union. Who could have predicted how that happened. Even today, it reads like bad fiction.

/johnny

69 posted on 04/04/2013 9:01:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Huh?

You think that when white voters die off that the immigrants and their offspring will suddenly reverse themselves and start voting conservative?

I have no idea what you are trying to say, do you ever look at the demographics of voting, or HOW state after state, city after city is swallowed up by the left?


70 posted on 04/04/2013 9:04:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Tau Food
No one has repealed the Law of Self Interest.

True. And they will vote themselves goodies from the blood and treasure of future generations as they sit in their easy chairs, watching television and griping about the younger generation.

It's an old story written in fresh blood.

/johnny

71 posted on 04/04/2013 9:05:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservative Beacon

Revolutions, whether violent and peaceful, major changes, are possible and happen all the time in other countries. Too many Americans are complacent, too many, also here, believe that we are the so-called end of history, a political system perfected once and for all sometime in the late 18th century. That is what our children learn in school. No citizens of any other country think that of their own land. How many major changes have gone since that time in most countries of the world, Western or otherwise? How many have gone here? Zero, goose egg, we just slowly deteriorate, sink into the mud, and never to the point of an upheaval. That will continue, for as long as there is bread and the circuses play.


72 posted on 04/04/2013 9:09:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ansel12
"Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand; they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter."
Isaiah 56:11

But, harvest time is coming. Of that we can be sure.

73 posted on 04/04/2013 9:10:16 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ansel12
I watched while much of Europe and Asia was swallowed up by the left.

I lived long enough to see China figure out the Mao was full of crap. And Viet Nam would allow free markets because they couldn't stop them.

I lived long enough to see Russia return to Christ.

Voting is old school at this point. People are voting with their feet and their actions.

Governments aren't much more than tarted up protection/shakedown rackets that voting makes 'honorable'. Mainly so that social security and medicare and welfare keep flowing.

People get tired of that. They do their own thing and avoid the government crazies.

I have great faith in freedom. God gave it to us if we will take it. We don't have to be organized to be free.

/johnny

74 posted on 04/04/2013 9:12:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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75 posted on 04/04/2013 9:13:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tau Food

Gibberish as you are using it, so you think the problem with America is the republican voters, and that the democrat voters will fix America?

How do you look at people who love Obama to the tune of 66% and 77%, and proclaim them as the hope for our future, while attacking the people who vote against him as the obstacle to his supporters and the future political success that you hope for them?


76 posted on 04/04/2013 9:14:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And they will vote themselves goodies from the blood and treasure of future generations as they sit in their easy chairs, watching television and griping about the younger generation.

Yes, I'm afraid you're right about that.

This crop of seniors will be long remembered as the generation that crippled and just about destroyed America. But, when they are gone, a free people will emerge and break free of their chains.

77 posted on 04/04/2013 9:14:55 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Conservative Beacon
Fifteen things I would like to see 30 years from now:
  1. Occidental College extends its winning streak over Pomona to 38 games

  2. The seventeenth and twenty-third amendments to the Constitution have been rescinded

  3. The BCS has been abolished, to be replaced by the traditional bowl system

  4. The TSA has been abolished

  5. The Departments of Commerce, Education, Energy, Labor, Health and Human Services and Housing and Urban Development are history

  6. Walter Duranty's Pulitzer Prize has been rescinded

  7. Two powerful rivals to the NCAA have emerged

  8. Graduate students know that the American Revolution came before the Civil War

  9. San Francisco elects a Tea Partier as mayor.

  10. Across the bay, Berkeley sends a Goldwater Republican who is a decorated veteran of Korean War II to Congress. The president of the reunified Republic of Korea congratulates him.

  11. Terrorism abates as terrorists realize that they face a drum-head court-martial and summary execution if convicted

  12. The US patterns its immigration laws after Mexico's

  13. The federal government, as well as Britain and Australia pattern their gun control laws after those of Texas

  14. Organs and choirs are chasing electric guitars and drums out of the churches

  15. USC extends its winning streak over Notre Dame at 30 games

78 posted on 04/04/2013 9:16:56 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

While your history of Europe and China is weird enough, you don’t seem to understand that the people who are the young in America, and who will be joining them by the tens of millions in the decades to come, are not conservatives, they don’t like conservatism and do not support it, and are destroying it.

Seriously, when you look at the demographics of voting, your hope for the future lies with the 66% and 77% Obama voters, and your enemy are those voting against him?


79 posted on 04/04/2013 9:19:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Tau Food; JRandomFreeper
But, when they are gone, a free people will emerge and break free of their chains.

This is mind boggling, how will the Obama voters lead us to utopia after the anti-Obama voters are dead?

80 posted on 04/04/2013 9:23:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
Seniors didn't vote against Obama last year. Greedy seniors voted for two candidates (Romney and Ryan) who assured them that they would do nothing to slow the growth of senior handouts for people who are currently more than 55 years old.

"Gimme, gimme, gimme!"

"Pay me 'til I tell you to stop!"

81 posted on 04/04/2013 9:23:45 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Conservative Beacon; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
30-50 years?


82 posted on 04/04/2013 9:24:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Tau Food

Today’s seniors didn’t vote for FDR’s Social Security!


83 posted on 04/04/2013 9:27:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ansel12
While your history of Europe and China is weird enough

What part of it is wrong?

they don’t like conservatism and do not support it, and are destroying it.

Really? How do you know? Do you watch the eye-rolls when the libs launch into sermons? How many young people do you mentor?

BS. You get most of your news from cyberspace or television.

/johnny

84 posted on 04/04/2013 9:28:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Revolting cat!
But they dang sure won't vote to end it. They get rather pissy about that. Even here on FR.

/johnny

85 posted on 04/04/2013 9:29:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tau Food

So they didn’t vote for Obama in 2012 because, and they voted against him in 2008, because.

What logic is there in attacking anti-Obama voters and glorifying 66% pro-Obama voters?


86 posted on 04/04/2013 9:33:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

While you are watching their eyes roll, I am reading the exit polling saying that they supported Obama by 66% and 77%.

The exit polling for seniors show that they vote against Obama.


87 posted on 04/04/2013 9:36:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Don't even try to compare this current crop of seniors with the Greatest Generation!

The Greatest Generation survived the Great Depression.

The current generation of seniors survived disco.

The Greatest Generation spread peace throughout the world by conquering the largest armies in history.

The current generation of seniors spread herpes.

After the harvest, there will be another truly great generation that will restore American values and freedom.

88 posted on 04/04/2013 9:39:28 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ansel12
You are looking very short term.

Seniors vote for preserving their SS. That's why there are liberal Republicans that won't touch the entitlement part of the budget.

/johnny

89 posted on 04/04/2013 9:40:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tau Food

No, the next generation of seniors will be the one surviving Dancing with the American Idol!


90 posted on 04/04/2013 9:40:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
"The memory of the just is blessed, but the name of the wicked shall rot."
(Proverbs 10:7)


91 posted on 04/04/2013 9:49:34 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wow, seniors vote republican because they are more conservative, something that the young will never be, seniors are repulsed by the left, and are patriotic and understand the value of conservationism and conservative economics better, and desire that conservatism.

Your simple way of explaining the senior vote just isn’t accurate, and I have no idea what makes you think will somehow make the most leftwing young people in American history, start voting against the democrat party, that isn’t going to happen.

As the older white Americans die off, then that will be the end of conservatism in America, all of america will be swallowed up like California and other states, and cities.


92 posted on 04/04/2013 9:49:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
As the older white Americans die off, then that will be the end of conservatism in America, all of america will be swallowed up like California and other states, and cities.

Listen to your whiney, scared self.

No. Real conservatives, that aren't voting to protect their social security will take their place, and grow stronger than conservatives that are stuck with the current republicans that won't touch SS entitlements.

/johnny

93 posted on 04/04/2013 9:55:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
How long was the 'end of conservatism' in the old soviet union? How long did communism last?

/johnny

94 posted on 04/04/2013 9:57:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What age group are those conservatives hiding in when we look at the voting data?

Is it in the 66% of the under 30 vote that Obama won in 2008? Is it the 77% of the ever increasing Hispanic vote, or the other 75% or so of the immigrant vote?

Does reality matter to you at all, or do you want to continue telling us that those voting against the left, are the left, and that those voting for the left, are the right?


95 posted on 04/04/2013 10:00:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12
As I told you. Your voting thing doesn't matter much.

Was there a vote about shutting down the CCCP? Or did folks just walk away from a stinking mess that history left them?

/johnny

96 posted on 04/04/2013 10:03:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ansel12
As the older white Americans die off

"Never put off 'til tomorrow what can be done today."

97 posted on 04/04/2013 10:04:40 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
That was sorta harsh.

Snicker.

I'll get there soon enough.

/johnny

98 posted on 04/04/2013 10:07:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You're right. I take it all back.

Snicker.

99 posted on 04/04/2013 10:09:09 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Good Lord man, Russia isn't the US, and they did not write a law 50 years ago to replace their voters with democrat voting foreigners, forget this silly Russia stuff.

What do you think happened in California, that the WASPs just quit voting against the democrats suddenly?

The old original America still votes pretty much as it always has, the demographics is what changed, and is what owns the future.

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100 posted on 04/04/2013 10:11:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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