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Neanderthal culture: Old masters
Nature ^ | 15 May 2013 | Tim Appenzeller

Posted on 05/18/2013 11:46:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The results of an earlier round of sampling in El Castillo cave, published last June1, showed that the oldest of the paintings, a simple red spot, dates to at least 40,800 years ago, roughly when the first modern humans reached western Europe. Pike and his colleagues think that when they analyse the latest samples, the paintings may turn out to be older still, perhaps by thousands of years -- too old to have been made by modern humans. If so, the artists must have been Neanderthals, the brawny, archaic people who were already living in Europe...

An early date for the paintings would also be a vindication for the slight, dark-haired man watching as Pike works: Joao Zilhao, who has emerged as the leading advocate for Neanderthals, relentlessly pressing the case that these ice-age Europeans were our cognitive equals. Zilhão, an archaeologist at the Catalan Institution for Research and Advanced Studies at the University of Barcelona in Spain, believes that other signs of sophisticated Neanderthal culture have already proved his point. But he is willing to debate on his opponents' terms. “To my mind, we don't need that evidence,” he says of the paintings. “But I guess for many of my colleagues this would be the smoking gun.”

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals

Spots and stencils in El Castillo cave, Spain -- one at least 40,800 years old -- might be the handiwork of Neanderthals. [PEDRO SAURA]

Spots and stencils in El Castillo cave, Spain -- one at least 40,800 years old -- might be the handiwork of Neanderthals. [PEDRO SAURA]

1 posted on 05/18/2013 11:46:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/18/2013 11:47:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is a Neanderthal museum in Gibraltar that is amazing. They have digs in that small country that are doing some good work.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 11:53:29 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
The results of an earlier round of sampling in El Castillo cave, published last June1, showed that the oldest of the paintings, a simple red spot, dates to at least 40,800 years ago


4 posted on 05/18/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Thanks cp.


5 posted on 05/18/2013 12:02:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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6 posted on 05/18/2013 12:03:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SunkenCiv

From about 23,000 BCE to about 1782, the red spot was used by pirates to designate a traitor. Around 1782, the color was changed to black. Billy Bones was one of the receivers of the Black Spot

Some believe Ben Gunn also received the Black Spor shortly before he was marooned by Captain Flint


7 posted on 05/18/2013 12:33:53 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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Is that where fraternities picked up the custom to “blackball” someone they didn’t want in their group?


8 posted on 05/18/2013 1:06:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Maybe the artist was a Japanese Neanderthal?


9 posted on 05/18/2013 1:21:23 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why is there a Neanderthal painting on this sweater?

10 posted on 05/18/2013 1:25:52 PM PDT by Rokurota
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I know what pure evil and real art looks like.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 4:37:47 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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12 posted on 05/18/2013 5:04:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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13 posted on 05/18/2013 5:07:46 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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14 posted on 05/18/2013 5:24:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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The Monkey Trial - Evolutionary Politics in the post-Traditional Age by Chuck Morse
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15 posted on 05/19/2013 8:40:34 AM PDT by Chuckmorse
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