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Baby names reveal parents' political ideology
Fox ^ | 6/7/13 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 06/07/2013 4:13:47 PM PDT by workerbee

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To: workerbee
My son is not my possession. It’s not right to use him to prove that I’m arty or sophisticated or whatever.

This is a great point. I definitely think there's a line between "unique" and "what are your parents' trying to prove?"

Have you ever noticed that it is very, very unusual for a woman to name her daughter after herself? My opinion about this is that women don't have the conceit that men have: "Look at me. I'm something special, so I'll give my son my great name."

Many moons ago I worked in Sears credit collection department and you cannot imagine how many accounts got mangled because the father's payment on his account got applied to the account of his son, who had the same damn name.

51 posted on 06/07/2013 6:16:57 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Fiji Hill
I don't like the name "Sasha" for a girl--in Russia, it's a boys name, the counterpart of "Alex" in English. However, I do like the name Malia.

Full name: Malia Anne Obama

Yeah, we got Bolshevism covered with Sasha, and we got MAO in there too.

Hope no one thinks its a coincidence.

52 posted on 06/07/2013 6:17:32 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: rsobin

The half of my family that raised me gave everybody biblical names, which are much meatier and assertive than Amber, Ashley, Liam etc.

My daughter is Rebecca Elizabeth. Becca for short. The other half of my family, Sicilian, everybody is named Michael, Michelle.. with a few Anthonys thrown in.

I think it’s awful to burden a girl with a masculine name and vice versa.


53 posted on 06/07/2013 6:18:54 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Irish/Celtic names got hugely popular in the late ‘80s. Look at the popularity of Caitlin and it’s 2,001 spelling variations!


54 posted on 06/07/2013 6:20:34 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Conservatives, on the other hand, seem to pick traditional names that will distinguish their kids as economically successful.

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That is a stupid statement.

Enjoyed the excerpt until I got to that.


55 posted on 06/07/2013 6:22:06 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SampleMan
The Afro-name-generator kicks out a lot of liberal names.

I was on the phone yesterday with client support for our payroll vendor and the woman’s name was, I kid you not: “Lacola” pronounced La-Cola. I also once spoke with someone at this same company named Latrina and one named Chiquita.

56 posted on 06/07/2013 6:22:07 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: al_c

Frank Zappa is dead,isn’t he?


57 posted on 06/07/2013 6:23:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Wow, those are some seriously traditional names! They could be my great-aunts, LOL! In fact, some of them were!

;-)


58 posted on 06/07/2013 6:23:35 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: goodwithagun

How about Esther?


59 posted on 06/07/2013 6:23:42 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: MD Expat in PA

I’ll meet your La-Cola and raise you a Chlamydia. Yep, same spelling and everything.


60 posted on 06/07/2013 6:24:56 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

I had a customer named “Aquanetta” once ;)


61 posted on 06/07/2013 6:26:24 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: workerbee

I’ve always been stunned that Mexicans name their boys Jesus, and that nobody ever explained the impropriety of such to them.

I guess conversion under duress brought that about over the last 400 years.


62 posted on 06/07/2013 6:26:45 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: workerbee

I don’t like any of those names you mentioned. To each his own.


63 posted on 06/07/2013 6:27:03 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: workerbee

People tend to think of family names as being a male thing but there are several female given names that go back through the generations. Parthenia is the most unusual one in my bunch.


64 posted on 06/07/2013 6:30:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SampleMan

In the novel “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross (recommended) there is a small character whose name sort of rhymes with “Gloria”, but while the sound is somewhat innocuous, the spelling (”Gonorrhea”) is slightly embarrassing to her.


65 posted on 06/07/2013 6:30:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: workerbee

I guess my little Fortinbras and Farquharson don’t fit any mold...


66 posted on 06/07/2013 6:37:24 PM PDT by stormer
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To: RegulatorCountry
My son's middle name is my wife's maiden name. He also has another middle name that is my grandmother's (MSRIP) maiden name. We had anticipated that he would be born on her birthday; that was before the nightmare delivery from hell that I thought would never end. He ended up missing her birthday... but by then we had already decided.

His first name is Biblical: Matthew. At the time, we didn't know any Matthew babies... but I guess half the parents in America were thinking the exact thing at the same time, because it turned out to be quite common.

67 posted on 06/07/2013 6:41:53 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: OldPossum

It’s definitely more unusual for a mother’s name to be passed along. That just follows our patriarchial society (not saying that as a political matter, just stating a fact.)

However, my mother was named after her mother, though they had different middle names.


68 posted on 06/07/2013 6:48:35 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee
Cecelia is lovely.

You're breaking my heart. You're shaking my confidence, baby.

69 posted on 06/07/2013 6:51:09 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: tnlibertarian; Nevadan

Ok, Ok, I hear you with Cecelia. LOL

But my young cousin by that name is an accomplished cellist, so my associations have been changed.


70 posted on 06/07/2013 6:57:27 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: jttpwalsh; SampleMan
I’ll meet your La-Cola and raise you a Chlamydia. Yep, same spelling and everything.

I had a customer named “Aquanetta” once ;)

Supposedly a true story, I say that as I got it second hand.

But a friend of my oldest niece told me that when she was in the maternity ward recovering from her C-Section with her first child (Harrisburg PA) there was a very young, hum , “urban” gal in the same room with her. The nurse came to ask this gal what name to put on the birth certificate and she told her “Vagina”. The nurse, who was also black but a much older woman, looked at her in shock and asked her to repeat it and again the young woman said “Vagina”.

The nurse said something to the effect of, “You can’t be serious. You really want to name your daughter “Vagina”? Do you even know what that means?” “No”, the gal said, “But I heard my doctor say it a few times and it just sounds so pretty”.

According to my niece’s friend, the nurse said “Oh Sweet Jesus, please take me home because I’ve had enough of this world, this country is beyond any hope”. Then she told the mother, “No. I’m not letting you name your daughter Vagina or for that matter, Uterus or Gonorrhea or Chlamydia either, God only knows she’s going to have a hard enough time in this life with you as a mother. I’m putting down a good Christian Biblical name for her: She looks like a “Sarah Rebecca” to me” and with that she walked out of the room and that’s what she put on the birth certificate.

71 posted on 06/07/2013 7:00:17 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: higgmeister; Bigg Red

Silly me ... “considered”

I stand corrected. Thank you, FRiends.


72 posted on 06/07/2013 7:05:54 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: workerbee

Of course, you know that when a man names one of his sons after himself, the kid gets the full name, first, middle and last and a “Jr.” is attached.

He lives thereafter in his father’s shadow and strives to make his own identity. Not easy when you’re an “appendage” (strong word but I mean it) of your father, not your own individualist self.

I remember going to a minor league baseball game and there on one team was a player named Mickey Mantle, Jr. He tried and tried but he could not be the player that his father was; the team eventually dropped him off their roster. Despite—and maybe cause of—that name, he failed. Must be tough growing up under those circumstances.

If I had been given the name of my father I would have changed it at 18 or 21, whatever is the legal age requirement.


73 posted on 06/07/2013 7:13:44 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

74 posted on 06/07/2013 7:15:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: RockyTx
how does ‘Malia’ translate into Spanish?

It doesn't.
Sounds African.

75 posted on 06/07/2013 7:18:55 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: OldPossum
when a man names one of his sons after himself, the kid gets the full name, first, middle and last and a “Jr.” is attached.

Unless you are Barack Obama and you are named Barack H. Obama II.

People think the II is just a fancy way of indicating Jr. It's not. Maybe Obama's parents (whoever they were) thought II sounded more distinguished than Jr. They obviously were misinformed.

The II is reserved for naming a child after someone who is not the father. It was useful when many of an extended family lived in one house. A child might be named after a grandfather or an uncle and the II was appended to his name to identify the younger person.

76 posted on 06/07/2013 7:19:06 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: workerbee
Wow, those are some seriously traditional names! They could be my great-aunts, LOL! In fact, some of them were!

They are. : ) I’m just glad my niece and nephew didn’t go with some of the traditional Norwegian family names for their girls. Some I like, I’m rather found of Dagny and Astrid and Kirsten for instance but my grandmother’s name was Bergliot and her sister’s name was Borghild and I can’t imagine any of my great nieces being saddles with either of those names. : )

77 posted on 06/07/2013 7:21:33 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: OldPossum

I’ve never cared for Jr. names. Every kid deserves his “own” name. The middle name is for honoring a parent/grandparent/family connection.


78 posted on 06/07/2013 7:24:40 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

re: so my associations have been changed

That is good! Still, I would put the name in the category of “risky”. Might need a couple more generations to pass.


79 posted on 06/07/2013 7:25:03 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: workerbee
Notably, the kinds of uncommon names chosen by upper-class liberals differed from the unusual names picked by people of lower socioeconomic status, Oliver said. Lower-status moms tend to invent names or pick unusual spellings of common names (Andruw instead of Andrew, for example).

The other day, when I was substitute teaching class, I was taking roll and came upon a student whose first name was Shauen. So I called his name, pronouncing it Schauen, the German word for "to look." He corrected me, telling me that it's pronounced "shahn," an apparent variant of "Sean"--and he was surprised that I had mispronounced it the first time.

80 posted on 06/07/2013 7:25:54 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: ladyjane

It’s even worse when it gets into III, IV or V. Yikes! C’mon folks, use some imagination!


81 posted on 06/07/2013 7:25:57 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Bigg Red
Frank Zappa is dead,isn’t he?

That has been under discussion for several decades, now.

82 posted on 06/07/2013 7:29:03 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

If she was from Saskatchewan, she could be Vagina from Regina ! Thanks :)


83 posted on 06/07/2013 7:31:02 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: workerbee
A nod to Antwaan and D'Queshiaya.

Names like Antwaan or D'Queshiaya facilitate online searches--they're a lot easier to find than names like Jane or John.

84 posted on 06/07/2013 7:32:25 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: workerbee

I knew someone who was a V. His nickname was Quint.

Imagine having four ancestors with your name. Maybe I should say imagine having a name belonging to four ancestors.

I don’t think that was unusual years ago. Many seemed to use the same names.


85 posted on 06/07/2013 7:34:01 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: al_c
Frank Zappa, who considers himself a conservative, named his kids Dweezil and Moon Unit. Discuss.

That's called child abuse.

86 posted on 06/07/2013 7:34:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: MD Expat in PA
According to my niece’s friend, the nurse said “Oh Sweet Jesus, please take me home because I’ve had enough of this world, this country is beyond any hope”. Then she told the mother, “No. I’m not letting you name your daughter Vagina or for that matter, Uterus or Gonorrhea or Chlamydia either, God only knows she’s going to have a hard enough time in this life with you as a mother. I’m putting down a good Christian Biblical name for her: She looks like a “Sarah Rebecca” to me” and with that she walked out of the room and that’s what she put on the birth certificate.

Thanks for sharing. I know another "named by the nurse" story. I wonder how common that is?

87 posted on 06/07/2013 7:44:22 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s not just nowadays. Back in the early 80s I worked for the child support office; the unit I worked in dealt exclusively with Memphis, TN. I swear that after giving birth, the hospital would bring the mother a bowl of alphabet soup, and whatever letters were in the first spoonful were made into the baby’s name.


88 posted on 06/07/2013 7:45:34 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Time to go Galt!)
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To: workerbee
Florence, even more widely used at the turn of the 20th century than Emma, is practically extinct with no sign of resusitation.

There's a great Florence song, but I can't think of any Emma songs.

Florence--The Paragons

89 posted on 06/07/2013 7:47:00 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: workerbee

“As I’ve always had a fascination with names and naming trends, I found this article quite interesting.”

Agree. The first thing you see on a resume is the name. You can immediately tell a lot about a person, just from the name. You may infer that the person got preferences, or got anti-preference (Jewish or Asian). And yes, if they have white, whacked out, parents, you’ll get some weird names, like “Moon Unit”. But one can ALWAYS file those away in the trash.


90 posted on 06/07/2013 8:00:13 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: ladyjane

Re your post 76, thanks for pointing that out. Most people assume that Jr. and II are interchangeable.


91 posted on 06/07/2013 8:10:43 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
My parents did the name thing with very common names (for me and my seven siblings).

Same here. My mom always said that she chose names that wouldn't have to be spelled out over the telephone. She also thought a name should lend a certain dignity to its bearer. I've got no complaints.

When I first met my (future) wife, she told me that she'd had the name for her first daughter picked out for over a decade. I didn't argue with that, and when our daughter arrived, she was named Briagh (bree-ah). It's Scots Gaelic for 'fine, pleasant, or beautiful'.

92 posted on 06/07/2013 8:12:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

My daughter is Sarah. :D I have good, conservative tastes. My son is William. :D


93 posted on 06/07/2013 8:14:27 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Revolting cat!

Your point is? (post 74)

Mr. Sinatra Jr. is just another example of someone trying to trade on the family name and not being particularly good at it.

I do have to concede that Hank Williams Jr. carved out quite a career trading on his father’s name. Somehow with just a modicum of talent, he did it.


94 posted on 06/07/2013 8:14:36 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Maelstorm
I also avoided having a son named after me. I wanted all my kids to see themselves as unique.

Agreed. I also gave all my boys their own unique name.

Prior to my generation, my father's family had been recycling the same half dozen men's names for generations. My mom put an end to that, thank goodness.

95 posted on 06/07/2013 8:15:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: workerbee
my mother was named after her mother, though they had different middle names.

My wife and her mother share the same middle name. My wife hates it, because everyone knew her mom by that name.

96 posted on 06/07/2013 8:31:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: OldPossum
...you know that when a man names one of his sons after himself, the kid gets the full name, first, middle and last and a “Jr.” is attached. He lives thereafter in his father’s shadow and strives to make his own identity.

I completely agree with that, and have seen it play out in real life.

When my baby sister's first boy was on the way, she set her mind on honoring her husband by making baby a Junior. This, despite the fact that she has two uncles and a nephew with the same first name. Today, my family has five Michaels.

Crazy, huh?

97 posted on 06/07/2013 8:42:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bigg Red

There is a girl that works at the car rental agency I use when I travel to NM... her name is Esther. I love the traditional names of people in the heartland... Bertha is another amazing name I have seen out here in NM.


98 posted on 06/07/2013 9:38:23 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: combat_boots

I like Martha, Elizabeth and Louise. I like old fashioned family names. All my kids have family names passed from generation to generation.


99 posted on 06/07/2013 9:51:14 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: OldPossum

My family took a name all the way to four generations before my sister-in-law put her foot down when their son was born and named him something with no family names. It was crazy- my dad and granddad had ranches in the same area and the banks and what not stayed confused. It did make it easier for me to do the genealogy for my dad’s tree. I found out the unusual first name was scattered throughout the family and went back to an ancestor that died in the Civil War. I think it must have started out as a way to honor him and then went too far.


100 posted on 06/07/2013 9:57:56 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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