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When Windows XP Goes Away, HP Thinks Businesses Will Start Buying PCs Again
Business Insider ^ | 06/15/2013 | Kevin McLaughlin

Posted on 06/15/2013 10:29:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
It is interesting sometimes how often a software problem turns out to be a hardware problem.

A good portion of what friends and relatives bring me to look at are hardware problems, except for the malware and virus crap, which is their or more likely their kids fault.

Sometimes they are also capable of outstandingly botching up a new program install.

81 posted on 06/15/2013 12:25:42 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Windows 8 - It has electrolytes!


82 posted on 06/15/2013 12:27:13 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Zeneta

83 posted on 06/15/2013 12:27:33 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: The Cajun

84 posted on 06/15/2013 12:30:08 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: NVDave
Then you’d be switching chip architectures, because I know of no plans to port VMS to the i32 or i64 architecture.

Yep, I know this — I'd like to see it on AMD's 64-bit architecture (x86_64), but that doesn't look like it'll happen.

About the only fast way to get there (as far as I can see), would be a VM that emulates the Alpha or Itanium instruction set on i64.

Yep, I was looking at simh earlier today, but I might be able to grab some Itainums [off ebay or whatever] for a fair price should I need the actual HW.

The biggest barriers, IMO, to porting VMS to the i64 would be the lack of the Bliss compiler for your target architecture. You could write a program to translate the Macro stuff over, but all that Bliss-32 code... woof. That’s a huge undertaking.

Yeah... which is why I'd likely go with grabbing the Itainum (or Alpha) HW: less work.

85 posted on 06/15/2013 12:30:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Zeneta
No beeps? (Error codes.)

In post #67, The Cajun had a suggestion (quote):

"Had this happen on a relatives desktop 2 months ago, reseated the memory boards, took care of the problem.

Went on afterward and CAREFULLY cleaned the memory card contacts (2 mem boards), no reports of trouble since.

Original symptom, it would hang on boot up, wouldn't get to Win start up screen, Hd would stop spinning (Win 7 OS)."

Some people recommend gently cleaning the RAM stick contacts with a pencil eraser. (Disclaimer: That isn't to say that *I* recommend it. I merely mention as an option.)

Otherwise... if there's no POST screen, and no error beeps, you may need to find someone locally (friend/relative?) to sit actually down in front of it, and trouble-shoot the system.

86 posted on 06/15/2013 12:30:43 PM PDT by holymoly (I hope this isn't double posting again.)
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To: carriage_hill
Install this:

http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Then hit Menu on that crappy Ribbon Menu, and Office 2003 all comes back like it was. On all Office Suite Products.

Sweet.

Thanks for posting this, I think I'll be downloading and using it.

87 posted on 06/15/2013 12:33:07 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: Lazamataz

7 is a 100X better than XP in every way. Don’t bash it because your ancient apps don’t work on it. The biggest thing with moving to 7 is your file system will no longer fall apart within 6 months of imaging. You don’t need continual maintenance to keep it healthy.


88 posted on 06/15/2013 12:33:09 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Revolting cat!

The use Windows Powershell. it’s available in windows 7 or 8.


89 posted on 06/15/2013 12:34:15 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: JoeProBono

I’ve seen that look before, but her favorite is the little Remington .22 speed rifle with the *BIG* 3X9 scope :)


90 posted on 06/15/2013 12:35:54 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

Ahh, Capitalism ?

“The century of Self”

The best of Ma Bell, sanctioned by our fearless leaders.

Only to be destroyed by gov’t with it’s ashes rising like a phoenix for the new fangled way.

As we push the edges of possibilities, Capitalist’s rely on all avenues of opportunities.

Because we can.


91 posted on 06/15/2013 12:36:17 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, if you do, gimme a ping, would you? One of these days, I’ve a notion to buy an old Alpha system and set up a VMS system again, and I’d like to keep in touch with people who have a similar notion.

The Alpha was a sweeeet architecture. It’s a shame it’s gone by the wayside now...


92 posted on 06/15/2013 12:36:51 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: JCBreckenridge
Yeah, if your ‘work’ consists of playing angry birds.

Don't knock what you don't know. Tablet-based work is still work.

In fact, IT can limit the tablet to just doing work-based tasks, and by keeping storage of documents on the net, you make your data more robust and available for sharing. Always-available 4G networks on tablets mean that you're never out of touch with that collaborative data, or remote-wipe a device if security needs require it.

Can the same thing be done on Windows? Sure, it can with any OS. But tablets are cheaper, more portable, and have everything for this style of IT built right in.

Win 7 is an excellent platforum and OS.

For what it is, sure - I run it, along with Mac OS, and Linux. There's nothing really wrong with Win 7 at all, as far as being a modern "heavyweight" OS. (Putting aside my UNIX biases for the moment.)

But heavyweight OSes are overkill for many business tasks. Running a pay point? (Used to be called a "cash register"?) Writing sales pitches? Filing an expense report? Communicating via e-mail or IM?

If the task could be done 12 years ago with an XP computer, odds are that the task can be done today with a tablet. To many businesses and workers, that's of great appeal. CHOMP! There goes PC sales down the toilet.

93 posted on 06/15/2013 12:40:43 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: holymoly

Thanks

I’m going to take this thing apart.

I think you are right.

bad contacts that need to be cleaned up.


94 posted on 06/15/2013 12:41:50 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: holymoly; Zeneta
Some people recommend gently cleaning the RAM stick contacts with a pencil eraser. (Disclaimer: That isn't to say that *I* recommend it. I merely mention as an option.)

Yup, I used an ink eraser very lightly.
Like you said, not the optimum thing to do, but the contacts were very tarnished when looked at with X20 jewelers glasses.
Usually a re-seat will suffice most times.

Just taking a wild guess, would say it's probably memory boards or Hd.

95 posted on 06/15/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: Chode

Bring back W98 and I’ll be happy.


96 posted on 06/15/2013 12:48:35 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Okay. When my XP breaks, maybe I’ll try “7”, if it’s the same.
Thanks.


97 posted on 06/15/2013 12:49:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: miliantnutcase

I currently run XP, and I have very seldom had to perform the maintenance you write of.


98 posted on 06/15/2013 12:50:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

By the way, Microsoft messed up by naming their product “Windows 7” instead of - - I dunno - - “XP2”


99 posted on 06/15/2013 12:51:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Can you “break” XP ?


100 posted on 06/15/2013 12:51:25 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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